Contour Enthusiasts Group Archives Forums Modifications Wheels & Tires Beating a dead horse, best tire for ALL SEASONS

Here's the survey from Tire Rack for ULTRA high perf all seasons:

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=UHPAS

WTF ARE: Avon Tech M550 A/S They are ranked VERY highly CHEAP PRICE

And the Pzero Neros have fallen in price since the last time I shopped...

Any advice based on the survay above?

i think the pzero nero are stock on the s60r and the owners on swedespeed seem to hate them in winter use.

I got the falkens Zeix 512 215/45/17 and thought I was happy with them till I started driving my car everyday. I have not been impressed with them in the rain. I was running a higher pressure (40 psi) and had to drop them to 32 so I wouldn't slide off the road. Even at the lower pressure it will still slide if just pushed a little bit in the wet. I also can spin the tires very easily on wet pavement from a stop. Dry is overall good but at the lower pressure they squeal on occasion. I don't remember these problems with my 225/50/16 Dunlop 5000s yes it is wider and different diameter but still. The falkens have not seen snow but if they are this bad in the wet I can't imagine snow. I know some older people with the Falkens that love them, in laws have them on their all wheel drive CRV with no problems and a friend of theirs has them on a Camry. Neither had problems in the winter. Could be a different story on our cars. The 5000s are now on the wifes mystique and I drove them through the winter. They were just OK in the snow. Now that they are getting worn out they are becoming bad in the wet also. I hate shopping for tires.

The 195/60R15 ZE512s on the Benz have been great in the rain. Oily pavement is a problem, but oily pavement/painted lines/etc. are always troublesome in the wet, with any tire. Overall they're very nearly as good as the Fuzion ZRi I had on the Contour, and they're better than the Hakkapelliita (sp)RSi tires I had for the winter - which weren't bad in the wet at all.

The Mastercraps that came on it - horrible. I threw them away at almost full tread because they were unsafe in the wet.

I purchased the Perelli PZero Nero M&S last year and they are great in the summer! For day to day driving they suit me as well as the BFG KDW's did. Have yet to hear a squeal out of them which includes a run through the "Appalachian Gap"...a 10 mile twisty road up and down a mountain. I've actually only driven in the rain once w/ them and they worked wonderfully there too. Haven't tested them in the snow yet as I don't drive my car in the winter. I purchased them to give me better treadwear, some traction when it gets cold (before the snow flies) and good wet/dry performance. Snow reviews are good on Tire Rack, so I would recommend these.

My Bridgestone Protenza's seem to have an excellent combination of wet/dry/snow traction. Look up the reviews on those at tirerack.

All Seasons.....

Stands for "Equally bad in all seasons"

Extra set of tires - $400
Cost of accident due to crappy tires - >$400

Yokohama Avid V4 225/50-16. I've been running the same set of tires for...I dunno, probably 35,000+ miles, year-round, and they're outstanding.