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Okay everyone, I'll be purchasing new tires this month. Here's what's up, I'll be getting a 3.0 swap so I want a fairly decent performance in dry and wet, BUT I don't want to be reliant on having to buy winter tires.

My current tires are toyo proxes, they were decent at first but as they wore down their wet traction drastically decreased. They were decent in the winter, not the best but managable. That's all I'm looking for, a tire that can still be driven in the winter just not the best. It isnt too unsual in Cleveland to get 100+ inches of snow and Im going snowboarding weekly so snow drivaility is a must. I had khumo ecstas and they blew on the mustang, at like 45 degrees and below they couldn't catch traction wit even feathering the clutch.. So I'm affraid of tired they just become rocks in cold.

I've searched over and over but I havent seen too many snow reviews on high perf tires. I noticed everyone is speakin of the falkens. I still want something very aggressive for summer but still manageable in winter.

Thanks, I'm sorry if I'm beating a dead horse but this topic doesnt come up much on searches and when they do they are all a year apart so the model are outdated etc.

BTW this is for a stock 16" size.. 45 or 55 will work as well and I want a fairly high speed rating. (noticed I never pick up nails or garbage with em)

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I think you want too much from one tire. A tire that will be OK in the snow will not give you tons of traction in the summer. If you want stellar dry/wet performance, you are gonna give up driving in the snow. If you are fine with OK dry performance, good snow, and good wet performance, then an all season will be OK.

This would apply to all moderately price all seasons. You may get great all around tire for a more $$$.

With that said, I ran continental contiextremes for a while (actually, they are still on my stock rims). They perform great in the rain, OK in the snow, and OK in the dry. No comparison to a summer tire for dry traction. They are cheap too. Treadwear is good. Sidewalls are a bit flimsy. Ive posted tons of times about these tires, so that is that for the contiextremes. Should also find plenty of reviews on the tire rack as well.


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Originally posted by KingpinSVT:
the contiextremes. Should also find plenty of reviews on the tire rack as well.




Running them on my moms jag and my bros bullitt, they are nice but the summer traction seems to be outdone with em by my proxes.

I'm not looking for some summer racing tire that goes decently in snow.. I know such a thing does not exist, BUT I'm just lookign for the best ultra high perf all season. So far the proxes worked, just seeing if there's better.

I've learned though with the khumos, if it isnt winter appropriate dont try em Just trying to get options.

Thanks for the help though.

BTW I read many threads on the fuzions as well, are they just a gimmick tire or are they 1/2 way decent..

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So here's what I got going: (215-55-16, 55's have ALOT more options)

Falken Ziex ZE-512
Dry: 4.4 Wet: 4.2 Snow: 3.4 Handling: 4 Comfort: 4.1 Noise: 4 Treadwear: 3.5

Dunlop SP Sport A2 Plus (a lil pricey)
Dry: 3.9 Wet: 3.5 Snow: 2.4 Handling: 3.7 Comfort: 3.2 Noise: 3 Treadwear: 2

Dunlop SP Sport 01
Dry: 4.4 Wet: 4.1 Snow: 2.6 Handling: 4.2 Comfort: 4.4 Noise: 4.4 Treadwear: 3.7

Fuzion HRi (very interested in)
Dry: 4.4 Wet: 4.4 Snow: 3.2 Handling: 4.4 Comfort: 4.4 Noise: 4.3 Treadwear: 4.4

Hankook Ventus HRII H405 (crappy H rating :-( )
Dry: 4.4 Wet: 4 Snow: 2.9 Handling: 4.2 Comfort: 4.2 Noise: 4.2 Treadwear: 4.1

Kumho Ecsta ASX (KU21) (pretty non-agressive tread with surprising review)
Dry: 4.8 Wet: 4.6 Snow: 4 Handling: 4.8 Comfort: 4.6 Noise: 4.6 Treadwear: 3.5

Toyo Proxes 4
Dry: 4.7 Wet: 4.5 Snow: 3.4 Handling: 4.6 Comfort: 4.5 Noise: 4.4 Treadwear: 4.2


Anything else anyone can think of??

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I'd go with the falken ziex.

I had contiextremes, lasted a long time with a ton of abuse, but really lacked in dry handling.


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I'd go with the falken ziex.

I had contiextremes, lasted a long time with a ton of abuse, but really lacked in dry handling.




Would you agree with the ratings above that the proxes should be rated higher than the Falkens?

I was first impressed with the proxes but I'm seeing if there's anyone else who has used the proxes and switched from em.

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Get snow tires. All-seasons are junk in both seasons, except the sporty ones (ZE512) which are junk in the snow. Blizzaks/Graspic and the like are pretty grippy in the summer and awesome in the snow.


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Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Get snow tires. All-seasons are junk in both seasons, except the sporty ones (ZE512) which are junk in the snow. Blizzaks/Graspic and the like are pretty grippy in the summer and awesome in the snow.





So would you disagree with the proxes being rated higher than the ZE512... If not then that makes me very tempted to try the ZE's, I'm no looking for a snow tire that's good by any means. I'm just not looking for a summer only tire that wont even get tracting on a dry day when below 50. I once remember locking up the tires on the stang stoping around 35mpg and slidding like on ice with Kunho Ecsta Supra 712's when it was cold out. That's what I'm trying to avoid.

This tread pattern plus super hard rubber when cold is hell:


ON EDIT: those kunhos on a RWD car in a summers rain got AMAZING traction, almost as if it didnt rain at all. I remember the day I got them on it rained and I pushed them like crazy and was in disbelief.

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I have driven through NE winters on BFG KDW's and Kuhmo 712's. I drove like grandma, and did my best to wait for the streets to clear up. That was a scary experience, but it was doable. I never went over 5mph on snow covered streets, and went really slow in the right hand lane on the highway. I probably deserve one of these But my job was only 2miles away, and you never really have to go anywhere in the snow. Park the car and fire up some hot chocolate.


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I bought Michelin Pilot Sport A/S (all season) on my stock E0's. I love them. Its been 2 years and I get good traction in the snow, excellent in the rain/dry! They cost a pretty penny however



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