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#1580671 05/30/06 11:59 PM
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Originally posted by Bugzuki:
Originally posted by Stazi:
Hey genius - the outputs for a coil on plug system are TOTALLY different from the ECU to start with.

You can't frikken "git-r-dun" and just wire it up willy nilly. I suggest you take a look at the Conotour PID's and compare them to the Coil-on-plugs PID's from an LS, for example, before you start spouting out about crap you know nothing of, first!

PS - not to mention to firing strategy is tottally different too.




I see not reason for you to be rude about your opinion. I also fell that there is no reason for you to insult other people by saying that they do not know anything about what they are talking.






Dude.. your talking to stazi here, the guy knows more about Contours than anyone, Him and Mapoftazi are friends anyways.


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Originally posted by Tourige:
Dude.. your talking to stazi here, the guy knows more about Contours than anyone, Him and Mapoftazi are friends anyways.




That's quite an assumption... on both parts... LOL

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Originally posted by Stazi:
willy nilly






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i think if it is wired up right it will work. its just a matter of pairing up the coils correctly to the cylinders and have them firing 2 at a time. a slong as one fires on the compression stroke and its partner coil fires on the exhaust stroek of another cylinder it might work out ok. i still think it would be better to just invest in better wires and a better coil pack.


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Originally posted by Stazi:

You can't frikken "git-r-dun" and just wire it up willy nilly.




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If the amps necessary to fire one of the Contour's coils (they have three total) is equal to roughly half of what is needed to fire one of the COP coils, then I say run the two cylinders' COP's in parallel.

If the COP coils are more than half of the resistance of a Contour's single coil, then I wouldn't risk it.

This is the only possible way COP will work without a different ECU.


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I started this thread because...I'm too lazy to think this whole thing through right now! LOL


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i think i can make a wiring diagram that would make it work. it would probally be a good idea to use a seperate relay to power the coils. the relay could be triggered by the power wire from the stock coil.


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Relays will not be fast enough - it has to be solid state. Plus a relay isn't rated for the the repitition and speed required for switching a coil.

This is a pointless excercise.



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Originally posted by Stazi:
Hey genius - the outputs for a coil on plug system are TOTALLY different from the ECU to start with.

You can't frikken "git-r-dun" and just wire it up willy nilly. I suggest you take a look at the Conotour PID's and compare them to the Coil-on-plugs PID's from an LS, for example, before you start spouting out about crap you know nothing of, first!

PS - not to mention to firing strategy is tottally different too.




Maybe he means to wire two coils in series or parallel so that each pair acts like a channel of the current coil pack.
The only thing with that is what the impedance would be and how closely it would match the current coil pack. There is no way to know what the electrical characteristics of the spark would be without first calculating coil impedance.
Or couse someone could just wire it up and hope it fires....without burning out the coil driver in the pcm.

But for the sake of argument, lets say that ideally the two coils in series or in parallel would have approximately the same resistance as one of the single coils in the 3 coil pack....then I think it would fire okay and any codes in the pcm would correspond to 'both' coils.
THe only advantage would be the elimination of plug wires.


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