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Hi guys, if i remove main cat will CEL appear? Will i notice any gain in performance of car?
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Originally posted by dgodard:
Hi guys, if i remove main cat will CEL appear? Will i notice any gain in performance of car?
NO and NO.
Gutting the precats will help a little bit, but they will throw a CEL without MIL's
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I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find. 
much like your weiner.
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Originally posted by dgodard:
Hi guys, if i remove main cat will CEL appear?
No...but believe me, if/when you remove it, you'll regret it forever b(sounds like total ass). Put a high flow unit in it's plece and you should be ok.
As far a performence, with my test pipe installed the car seems to breath much easier up top, however i have no dyno graps to back this up. I only run my test pipie on track days as I hate the way it makes the car sound.
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Originally posted by Pole120:
Originally posted by dgodard:
Hi guys, if i remove main cat will CEL appear?
No...but believe me, if/when you remove it, you'll regret it forever b(sounds like total ass). Put a high flow unit in it's plece and you should be ok.
As far a performence, with my test pipe installed the car seems to breath much easier up top, however i have no dyno graps to back this up. I only run my test pipie on track days as I hate the way it makes the car sound.
It doesnt sound that bad... and actually sounds nice after warmed up for 30 seconds of driving... There are a few other CEGers that have heard my exhaust (stock with no main cat)... i admit, it could be better, but its not bad.
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Originally posted by Guitarman19853:
Originally posted by Pole120:
Originally posted by dgodard:
Hi guys, if i remove main cat will CEL appear?
No...but believe me, if/when you remove it, you'll regret it forever b(sounds like total ass). Put a high flow unit in it's plece and you should be ok.
As far a performence, with my test pipe installed the car seems to breath much easier up top, however i have no dyno graps to back this up. I only run my test pipie on track days as I hate the way it makes the car sound.
It doesnt sound that bad... and actually sounds nice after warmed up for 30 seconds of driving... There are a few other CEGers that have heard my exhaust (stock with no main cat)... i admit, it could be better, but its not bad.
better as in... with a Cat 
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Originally posted by MxRacer:
Originally posted by RawBurt:
I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.
much like your weiner.
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I have the magnaflow hi-flo cat and I love it. If you want better flo than the stock cat that's the way to go, you could also go with headers or gutted precats , plus w/o the main cat it's easy to catch on a visual inspection and that can equal a fine.
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Thanks by comments guys...well, i think i'll go with headers then...what do you recommend here?? nice and cheap? lol
If i go with headers do i need MIL eliminators?
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Originally posted by Guitarman19853:
It doesnt sound that bad...
Yeah, i love the sound of rasp...
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Originally posted by Tourige:
better as in... with a Cat
Too quiet with a cat. I'd rather have it be how it is than with a cat.
Originally posted by Pole120:
Originally posted by Guitarman19853:
It doesnt sound that bad...
Yeah, i love the sound of rasp...
Rasp goes away after the engine warms up (usually 30-60 seconds of driving)
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Originally posted by dgodard:
...If i go with headers do i need MIL eliminators?
Yes. You need two, one for Bank 1 Lower O2 sensor and one for Bank 2 Lower O2 sensor.
If you have to deal with smog emissions inspections (tailpipe), headers are not the way to go as you will probably have a hard time getting the car to pass.
"Always do the cheap and easy ones first."
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