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Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Originally posted by Ike:
Just had my poly mount installed today. Let me tell ya, the engine is SO stiff I can feel the vibrations of the engine clear through the steering wheel.




Mine got better with time, but the NVH is still serious.






Is there a softer uerothane than can be used to better balance NVH?

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Originally posted by Ike:
Ok, then that is probably the problem then. Because BOTH my roll resistors were COMPLETELY shot. So I'm going from having no support, to having support again. I'm just thrilled my car finally has stability, without understanding that getting new stock mounts will give the same effect. I'm just going off my experience. Oh yeah, and I don't mind the NVH, in fact, I kind of like it.




To each his own. You probably would have been nearly as thrilled with new stock mounts (minus the NVH) but if you like the noise and vibration then have at it.

I put a rear poly mount in, and it wasn't for me. Recently swapped in front and rear stockers, much improved.


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Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Originally posted by Ike:
Just had my poly mount installed today. Let me tell ya, the engine is SO stiff I can feel the vibrations of the engine clear through the steering wheel.




Mine got better with time, but the NVH is still serious.




Odd.....I have hardly any vibration in my SVT and formerly my SE....as those that have ridden in it can attest to (hetfield, 99contourdriver)

Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Originally posted by Ike:
I'm willing to bet that this is the most worthwhile modification I've done to my car so far.




You realize that you would have gotten most of the good and none of the NVH with a stock piece, right?




Whole-heartedly disagree Performance wise, a stock mount(even new) will not come close to my poly units performance wise. Out of over 75 orders now, i've had 3 returned because NVH was too much for comfort.....i'm investigating an NVH/install corelation at present time and will be releasing my findings soon, as i believe those experienceing excessive NVH may have improperly located the motor at install locking it in a mis-aligned position.


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I said MOST of the good. Are you denying that he would have seen nearly the same results with stock mounts?


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Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
I said MOST of the good. Are you denying that he would have seen nearly the same results with stock mounts?




Yes...key word there is nearly. Would things have improved, certainly, i don't deny that at all. However the poly mounts are still going to greatly out-perform.


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This is NOT directed at anyone in particular... but I have a DAILY driver with the ES front insert and the pole120 poly'd rear mount. Yes, I feel more vibration through my steering wheel. Yes, I had cabin rattles before this mod and they were a little bit worse after this mod. Could I have put in new stock units? Yes. But why PAY for stock replacements to be STUCK with wheel hop and a bouncing engine on shifts?

So some of you can't stand noise or vibration. Then do NOT consider headers, do NOT get 17 and 18 inch wheels with harsh riding, noisy road hum 45 profile performance tires, do NOT stiffen your suspension, do NOT get an open element air filter, do NOT run your tires pressures over 28, remove that noisy cat back, and please NEVER ride with your windows open.

I don't enjoy a living room sofa luxocruiser (or plain vanilla Camry I-4 automatic) with 75 profile quiet ride/gas miser tires for listening to chamber music. I wanted an SVT and I prefer handle over Handel. But that's just me.

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Originally posted by JEDsContour:

Talked me out of it (not that I needed convincing).






The way I see it, I dont think you have a choice. You may REQUIRE it. But youre in a different boat than most.

OK, maybe not require, but you may find benefit in having it with the amount of hp/tq you'll be putting out when its all said and done.

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Obviously you weren't talking to me, but there's no problem with wanting stock mounts. Wheelhop is a bit annoying, but if you don't race the car, I don't think the NVH is worth it. You're not a wimp if you like a comfortable, quiet car. Many of us prefer to sacrifice comfort for performance, but not everyone will see the benifit of the poly-filled RR.

Again, I have one and I like it. It's worth it for me: but I probably have the least comfortable 'tour on here that's still a DD. And if I could get rid of wheelhop without the NVH, I would. I'm just sick of people raving about the roll resistors as being amazing, when they're replacing air, not stock rubber. The NVH is bad enough that I would certainly get stock mounts for any car where the wheelhop isn't an issue, despite the shorter lifespan.


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I never knew my engine would be as stiff as it is now. Especially with headers the car is absoloutly horrible to be in. EVERYTHING in my car rattles and Im almost fed up. I have brand new OEM stock mounts that I will put back in ASAP. I never experienced wheel hop or anything. I just want my smooth ride back instead of my steering wheel be my hand massager..


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Originally posted by Goonz SVT:
I never knew my engine would be as stiff as it is now. Especially with headers the car is absoloutly horrible to be in. EVERYTHING in my car rattles and Im almost fed up. I have brand new OEM stock mounts that I will put back in ASAP. I never experienced wheel hop or anything. I just want my smooth ride back instead of my steering wheel be my hand massager..




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