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Originally posted by BrApple:
hold on a minute, if they know there is a wiring problem why in the hell would they still need to change the PCM  I would tell them to [censored] replacing the PCM and have them fix the wiring, if they got it to work that has to mean they are close to the problem spot
otherwise verify that you have external PATs and find a PCM in a junk yard and replace at a fraction of the cost, they seem to run about $75 to $100 and I was looking at a SVT one ...
edit: sorry I am a bit ticked as I think about this more, how in the hell can they say that you need a new PCM if it only works when they move some wires around, I mean hello that tells me there is a problem with the wiring not necassary the PCM. get the wiring to work first then test the PCM, [censored] morons ... of course the PCM will not work it there is a wiring problem 
I have to call him back in a minute to ask him something.
Anyone have any specific questions I should ask? I'm going to ask him to explain what they did and how they know it is the ECM.
** I just called him. They couldn't get any info. from the computer, whatever wire is causing the problem shorted outt he computer. By moving some wires around they were able to get a bit of a spark (he said) and read that the computer is no good. **
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Could a computer on it's way out, or being shorted out have been causing my CEL's?
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It's been my experience that Ford dealerships don't like fixing pieces, they just replace entire parts to correct problems.
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Originally posted by frenchblueC2:
It's been my experience that Ford dealerships don't like fixing pieces, they just replace entire parts to correct problems.
well in terms of some parts that is a good idea ...
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Originally posted by BrApple:
Originally posted by frenchblueC2:
It's been my experience that Ford dealerships don't like fixing pieces, they just replace entire parts to correct problems.
well in terms of some parts that is a good idea ...
I agree.
I didn't mean to sound like I was dissing Ford service or anything.
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Originally posted by frenchblueC2:
It's been my experience that Ford dealerships don't like fixing pieces, they just replace entire parts to correct problems.
Well, I hope that is not true if and when they start looking for my bad wire. I WON'T put $500 - 700 into a wiring harness.
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I've had a feeling that it was a wiring problem all along becasue of the nature of how your car was acting prior to its complete failures. The PCM wouldn't do that, it would just die all of a sudden, not just little things here and then having problems.
I want to that it is very possible that what ever problem there is may have shorted out wires that has casued the PCM to fail or burn out becasue of the short. But if there is short or other problem that led to the failure of the PCM then what ever they put in wether new or used replacement its reasonable for me to believe that the one they install will also fry. IF you go the route of having them replace the PCM make sure that you get in writing, on dealership letterhead signed by the general manager and the service manager that if they replace the PCM for troubleshooting pourposes and the replacement fails due to what ever problem there is you will receive another replacement at no cost to you what so ever including both parts and labor.
The reaosn I am confident that it may be a wiring problem is becasue I remember something publication from FORD, wether a TSB or recall for wiring harnesses on Contours up to a certain model year had a problem of the wiring insulation degrading and failing over time due to a poor insulation material. If this was a recall and your car was part of it, has not been accomplished yet and the recall is still active you may be able to get the harness replaced for free under the recall, and you could go as far as to say that the PCM failed due to the faulty harness and be able to get all of this fixed at no cost..... But, I'll say it again, But all this hinges on (1) I am corect, which I am not sure of and (2) wether there was actually a recall and if so, wether it was performed or not and if it is still active.
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the recall for for 95 to 97 V6 contours, does not apply to the 98 but it seems that some 98s ended up with the left over "bad" harnesses
also I do not believe it is still active
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Get it back, pay the 100, and I'll take a ride up any day you want and help ya go over it. I doubt the PCM is dead. They just want to bend ya over.
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I was just thinking too. loose solder joint in the PCM, about 75% of electronic repair I did was solder joints. Should of suggested tapping on PCM while cranking.. Poo
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