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double wrench it.
put the box end of the 13mm on the bolt and then hook a larger box wrench on teh open end of the 13mm.
you just lengthened your 13mm by at least 6"




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All right, worked most of the day on the starter. Got it out and replaced. STILL NO START!

I was going through all the things people told me to check, and remembered that I had forgotten the Clutch sensor/switch. I bought one at AZone but it didn't fit and then it slipped my mind.

Now I'm desperate. I will find and replace them. There are 2 of them. They seem to work against each other one moves out as you depress the clutch and one moves in. Which should I replace?

If that doesn't make any difference, what's next? How do I test the wiring to make sure power is getting to the (new) starter?

Then what?


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Originally posted by mean'tour:
All right, worked most of the day on the starter. Got it out and replaced. STILL NO START!

I was going through all the things people told me to check, and remembered that I had forgotten the Clutch sensor/switch. I bought one at AZone but it didn't fit and then it slipped my mind.

Now I'm desperate. I will find and replace them. There are 2 of them. They seem to work against each other one moves out as you depress the clutch and one moves in. Which should I replace?

If that doesn't make any difference, what's next? How do I test the wiring to make sure power is getting to the (new) starter?

Then what?




Here is a photo (excuse the quick drawing) of the switches/ sensors I found. I tried to replace the red one with the one AZone sold me, but the stock wiring didn't fit.



As the clutch pedal is depressed the gray plunger on the red sensor opens up/ moves out, and the gray plunger on the black sensor closes/ moves in.

The numbers listed on the parts are:

Red: 95BB-7C534-AC (I think, it is really hard to read) and P6M GA

Black: 94BB-11A152-AB and P6M GA.

That 2nd number confuses me as there is no way they are interchangeable. But that is what my local CAP store told me.

I've not had any luck with any of those part numbers at: www.teamfordparts.com either. Any ideas?


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and the AZ one doesnt fit where the black one goes?
(i am sure you already tried that)

do you have one of the manuals on cd?
maybe it will explain it more inthere.
i have them all at home and i can check later.


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Originally posted by Me ted:
and the AZ one doesnt fit where the black one goes?
(i am sure you already tried that)

do you have one of the manuals on cd?
maybe it will explain it more inthere.
i have them all at home and i can check later.




I'm pretty sure.

It was weird because the AZone switch mounted in the same way (a push in and twist) as the red stock one, but the stock wiring plug was a different size and/ or shape and wouldn't fit. The black one just pushes in. Maybe I'll try to see if there is some way for it to fit tonight. I honestly didn't try becaUse of the obvious different mounting method.


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one thing i hate about teamfordparts.com
is they dont always give you part numbers and stuff, just descriptions.
and sometimes you get full diagrams and everything.
WTF!!!!

they only list one neutral safety switch for the MTX, but no part number.


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that makes sense.
does the factory harnes plug into the black one?
i find it funny that only one switch is listed, yet you have two.
cant understand what the second one would be for.

redundency system?
bah


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Originally posted by Me ted:
that makes sense.
does the factory harnes plug into the black one?
i find it funny that only one switch is listed, yet you have two.
cant understand what the second one would be for.

redundency system?
bah





cruise control? but I don't see why it couldn't use the same switch


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Originally posted by Me ted:
one thing i hate about teamfordparts.com
is they dont always give you part numbers and stuff, just descriptions.
and sometimes you get full diagrams and everything.
WTF!!!!

they only list one neutral safety switch for the MTX, but no part number.




How did you find it? I played around on the site last night and this morning a little with no luck.


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Originally posted by BrApple:
Originally posted by Me ted:
that makes sense.
does the factory harnes plug into the black one?
i find it funny that only one switch is listed, yet you have two.
cant understand what the second one would be for.

redundency system?
bah





cruise control? but I don't see why it couldn't use the same switch




Have either of you looked at yours before? (I'm not asking to look, I just wondered) Do you have 2 switches?

I just called my local Ford dealer and gave him the numbers. They didn't mean anything to him, but I described... He thinks they are probably the Clutch position and the Cruise control deactivation switches. 3-5 days to get in, they don't have them in stock. Could get from Bill by then.

I PM'd Bill in Vegas and am trying to find something on his site.


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