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top plate not touching tower?! WTF? #1539709 04/01/06 09:05 PM
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,150 Fox Lake, WI B blu_fuz OP Hard-core CEG\'er
OP blu_fuz Hard-core CEG\'er B Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,150 Fox Lake, WI	Did my suspension and here is some general info: 2.5 '95 MTX 2nd set of GCs Konis with perches removed upgraded top hat bearings and washers I just searched and found something about coilovers with tophats put a lot of direct force on the top cap. Here is a archive post about it.... http://www.contour.org/archive/showflat.php?Cat=&Board=UBB46&Number=563436&Forum=UBB46&Words=tower&Match=Entire%20Phrase&Searchpage=0&Limit=25&Old=allposts&Main=563430&Search=true#Post563436 The problem is the metal plate with the rubber on the ring, under the hood, does not sit on the strut tower. The driver's side is like 1/4" up off the tower and the passenger side is 1/16" up off the tower. The plates seem to be hitting the first nut that holds the suspension together. Possibilities: 1. Worn cone shape hat allowing front suspension to go too far up into the tower? Replace cones? 2. Find a "shorter" first nut to allow metal plate to come down further? 3. Put an a$$ load of washers to fill the 1/4" and 1/16" gaps? (don't want to do this one) SOOOOO, basically could my GC's from before bend the cone deeper - I need a pic of a stock cone hat and a measurement of how deep it is to compare to mine.... p.s. back in 2000 when i put my first set of GCs in on stock shocks, i use to jump railroad tracks and am wondering if that could have damaged those caps basically pushing/bending them up further than they should be? I need suggestions or if this has happened to anyone please throw ideas in - JOE Im sure you all can relate to what i mean but if you need a pic I can load some up later today. EGPLNT:MY 95' SE MTX SVT 200,000 MILE CLUB 6/06/06 - 201,000 MILES

Re: top plate not touching tower?! WTF? #1539710 04/02/06 12:46 AM
Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,101 Thornhill, Ontario T timeless420_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er
timeless420_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er T Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 1,101 Thornhill, Ontario	You're going ot hate me for saying this, but put your camber kit back in. It solved all my mount issues as it is all metal vs rubber. 2+ years on them no problem vs 1.5yrs max on the stock mounts. Then: 99 Silver Frost SVT #1919 237hp/219tq All Motor Now: 06 White STI Parts 4 sale

Re: top plate not touching tower?! WTF? #1539711 04/02/06 01:49 AM
Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,887 Wisconsin T Thinkmoto Hard-core CEG'er
Thinkmoto Hard-core CEG'er T Joined: Dec 2002 Posts: 3,887 Wisconsin	Hey Joe I don't have any front struts laying around sorry 06 GMC Sierra 2500HD Dmax/ally 06 Pontiac G6 GT 05 CRF250R FOR SALE 06 KX65 with riding gear $2700 obo

Re: top plate not touching tower?! WTF? #1539712 04/03/06 04:25 PM
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,150 Fox Lake, WI B blu_fuz OP Hard-core CEG\'er
OP blu_fuz Hard-core CEG\'er B Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,150 Fox Lake, WI	Originally posted by timeless420: You're going ot hate me for saying this, but put your camber kit back in. It solved all my mount issues as it is all metal vs rubber. 2+ years on them no problem vs 1.5yrs max on the stock mounts. I never had the camber kit..... Thanks anyway tony.... anyone else with suggestions? - JOE EGPLNT:MY 95' SE MTX SVT 200,000 MILE CLUB 6/06/06 - 201,000 MILES

Re: top plate not touching tower?! WTF? #1539713 04/03/06 04:46 PM
Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 710 Phoenix, AZ M morbid Veteran CEG\'er
morbid Veteran CEG\'er M Joined: Feb 2003 Posts: 710 Phoenix, AZ	Mine became like that after a shop had my car for almost 3 months. I was afraid they dropped the car and it bent the strut towers. Or the strut mounts warped after being racked for so long. morbid 2000 Contour SVT (black)

Re: top plate not touching tower?! WTF? #1539714 04/03/06 04:49 PM
Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 10,015 The land of Vegemite and Foste... S Stazi Hard-core CEG'er
Stazi Hard-core CEG'er S Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 10,015 The land of Vegemite and Foste...	Joe, The stock plates are NOT supposed to touch the towers. This is normal. 2000 SVT Turbo 295hp/269ftlb@12psi #1 for Bendix Brakes Kits! Knuckles rebuilt w/new bearings $55 AUSSIE ENDLINKS $70 Gutted pre-cats $80/set A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine!

Re: top plate not touching tower?! WTF? #1539715 04/03/06 09:45 PM
Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 94 brunswick OH I imnotacop420 CEG\'er
imnotacop420 CEG\'er I Joined: Jul 2003 Posts: 94 brunswick OH	I just had the same problem over the weekend. Turned out that the nut that goes on top of the plate is taller than the nut that goes underneath the top plate. With the taller nut underneath the top plate, the top plate rests on the nut instead of seating down in the tower......swapped that around and problem solved 98 T Red SVT CF hood and trunk, Vogtland springs, KYB struts, 8mm wires, KKM intake, BAT intake pipe, resonator removed, Steeda Short Throw, JVC MP3/WMA head unit, Alpine Type-S surround, 2 10in, Kicker subs, Soundstream amp,

Re: top plate not touching tower?! WTF? #1539716 04/04/06 05:10 AM
Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,150 Fox Lake, WI B blu_fuz OP Hard-core CEG\'er
OP blu_fuz Hard-core CEG\'er B Joined: Sep 2002 Posts: 1,150 Fox Lake, WI	Originally posted by Stazi: Joe, The stock plates are NOT supposed to touch the towers. This is normal. huh? yes they are - they were touching before i put the new suspension in.....! come on stazi - p.s. knuckle works great, bearings are still good and have about 500 miles on them. thank you About the nuts... I used the original nut to hold the suspension together and a new nut for the top plates under the hood.... soooo there really is no way that the way i have it now is wrong... I need a picture of someones cone hat for the front suspension to compare to mine with the depth measurements or something..... I also noticed that when the suspension was together b4 i put it in, the cone hat would sway like a bent rim when i spun it on the shock... the only logical thing is the cone hat is bent or the rubber is worn. I wanted to see if anyone else had or has this problem and has found a way to fix it.... EGPLNT:MY 95' SE MTX SVT 200,000 MILE CLUB 6/06/06 - 201,000 MILES

Re: top plate not touching tower?! WTF? #1539717 04/04/06 05:39 AM
Joined: May 2004 Posts: 9,872 Pakistan, MA G Goonz SVT Addicted CEG\'er
Goonz SVT Addicted CEG\'er G Joined: May 2004 Posts: 9,872 Pakistan, MA	same with mine to..mine dont touch..its been a year #0009

Re: top plate not touching tower?! WTF? #1539718 04/04/06 02:18 PM
Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 10,015 The land of Vegemite and Foste... S Stazi Hard-core CEG'er
Stazi Hard-core CEG'er S Joined: Nov 2000 Posts: 10,015 The land of Vegemite and Foste...	They are NOT supposed to touch. What people do not understand with our suspensions is that the strut rod at the top will move as you turn the steering wheel due to the inherent camber and caster - hence if you try to clamp it hard to the strut towers, you'll eventually fatigue the rod and break it. Trust me I know what I'm tlaking about. Joe - it helps to have someone who KNOWS how to install wheel bearings (me), install your bearings for you. Last edited by Stazi; 04/04/06 02:30 PM. 2000 SVT Turbo 295hp/269ftlb@12psi #1 for Bendix Brakes Kits! Knuckles rebuilt w/new bearings $55 AUSSIE ENDLINKS $70 Gutted pre-cats $80/set A lack of planning on your part does not constitute an emergency on mine!

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