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Originally posted by Rara:
But, to be honest Ford HD fluid is more than enough for anyone here. It has excellent fluid boil properties and is dirt cheap from the Ford dealer.
I have a slightly different perspective.
The Ford fluid does have a very high dry boiling point (550 degrees F), but it has a very low wet boiling point. I'm sure that is part of why it is rated as a DOT 3 fluid. Ford fluid is great for many racing situations because of it's high boiling point, especially where it is changed often before it can absorb moisture that will lower the boiling point.
For high performance street use, I would rather use a fluid that has a reasonably high dry boiling point but does better as moisture builds up in the system. Either Castrol LMA or Valvoline Synpower fit this description. I usually use Valvoline Synpower and change it once a year. I think these two provide the best bang for the buck for this type of use.
Jim Johnson
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Jim,
I've used the Valvoline SynPower in my contour, and had to change it out within a month it was so soft. I'll never use that garbage again.
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All I can say is that it works well for me.
The factory fill in my Escape was very black and generally rounchy when I replaced it with Valvoline Synpower at it's first anniversary. The Synpower looked pristine when changed at the second anniversary. It still looks pristine, and will be changed again at the third anniversary in July or August. I know that this is not normal for Ford fluid though. It usually holds up better than that.
I do respect your experience, and I may try Castrol LMA on the next change, since I used it most of the time before Valvoline Synpower was introduced. I wonder if you had a bad batch since I have not had the same bad experience.
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The Ford HD fluid isn't the same as the factory fill. The Ford HD fluid was developed with Dupont several years ago as a service fix for a particular vehicle that was having severe fluid boil issues. The Ford factory fill fluid for most plants is a lesser Dupont DOT3 fluid, and is presently being phased out in favor of a low viscosity DOT3 fluid from a company called CCI. Unfortunately, I don't recall the boiling properties of the CCI fluid.
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In regards to Castrol LMA, I honestly haven't used LMA, my only experience w/ Castol fluid is SRF; and while it is fantastic stuff, it is way too expensive for street car use, and it soaks up water pretty darn fast, so regular flushing is required. And for the Valvoline SynPower, I have had several good friends on both ends of the country have similar experiences w/ the stuff in a variety of vehicles.
Last edited by Rara; 03/29/06 05:10 PM.
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FWIW, look who else uses Ford HD fluid: LPE
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Originally posted by JB1:
since it is very close to me i go to super autobacs so i don't have to go around to the different speed shops and see who has what. they have a very extensive selection of fluids on hand and are open 7 days a week even though that doesn't help anyone outside of orange county. btw,m i have ate superblue going into my car tomorrow.
My local SVT chapter goes to Red Robin sometimes for lunch and then we go to autobacs to be amused by the ricer crowd. Good stuff there though. 
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Bump, just ordered from HRP since SPMotorsports seems to be having technical difficulties checking their e-mail.
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