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Originally posted by Mod-Deth:
Originally posted by weargle:
While I use it in the Miata, I'd recommend Castrol LMA for a Contour that'll only get bled every 2-3 years. The ATE is more hygroscopic.
What are the dry and wet boiling points of the Castrol? Not seeing it on the web site?
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You like the price, no? It's specially formulated to resist moisture absorbance (Low Moisture Absorbance = LMA) and would be better served in a daily driver. When you start track days and really using your brakes (experiencing fade), then step up to something else.
I bleed the brakes once a year in the Miata (autocross, not track) but once every 40K in the Contour. The engine swap necessitated doing in ahead of schedule.
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So while we are on the topic, I am planning to do the brakes this summer hopefully with the warmonger FSVT fronts if not the stock replacement pads. Anyway I wanted to change the brake fluid, so my question is what is the advantage to this fluid compared to regular Preston DOT 3? Thanks.
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Originally posted by JB1:
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Originally posted by csvt_33:
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That's where I got mine.
A buddy who is pretty reliable about this kind of thing told me the blue dye has caused problems with some ABS systems. He's seen a bunch of failures after using Super Blue for some time. The identical amber-colored fluid (type 400 or something?) is fine by him.
I now have an ABS issue after using Super Blue for a year or so. I have no idea what is wrong, and I've been messing with the TC lately, so it could have been me.
Now, I'm not saying that there's any hard data at all - I don't know whether to believe it or not. I switched to the Ford HD, but that's because it's much cheaper, and I bleed often anyway. But it probably won't hurt to get the non-blue ATE if you're the paranoid type.
Does anyone have any real info on this? I have a hard time believing it, myself. Oh, and remember - this is just a story I heard from some guy, so nobody freak out and tell everyone you know.
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I haven't heard anything about the ATE blue dye causing issues . . . ATE is actually the same company as Continental-Teves which is one of the biggest ABS module manufacturers in the world. I'd be very surprised if they didn't do full testing of their own fluid on their own parts.
But, to be honest Ford HD fluid is more than enough for anyone here. It has excellent fluid boil properties and is dirt cheap from the Ford dealer.
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Originally posted by weargle:
While I use it in the Miata, I'd recommend Castrol LMA for a Contour that'll only get bled every 2-3 years. The ATE is more hygroscopic.
I used to use ATE in my wifes car... but the pedal would get noticably squishy after a year. I got sick of bleeding her car and changed to.. um, something else that I can't remember.
I run ATE in my Contour and bleed it every year. When the fluid is getting close to needing changing, I tend to notice it first in the clutch ( ).
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Originally posted by Rara:
I haven't heard anything about the ATE blue dye causing issues . . . ATE is actually the same company as Continental-Teves which is one of the biggest ABS module manufacturers in the world. I'd be very surprised if they didn't do full testing of their own fluid on their own parts.
But, to be honest Ford HD fluid is more than enough for anyone here. It has excellent fluid boil properties and is dirt cheap from the Ford dealer.
Rara trumps my friend. I think it's pretty safe to say he happened to see a string of ABS failures when people switched to Super-Blue, but there was some other factor, if you've not heard about this. They're a tight group, so I've been suspicious of some other commonality, but haven't been able to finger it. My own ABS failure is interesting, but again, I've been screwing with the brakes a lot, and have a billion miles.
So far I've only put one auto-x and a bunch of highway miles on the Ford fluid, so I don't have any stress data. I switched because I know several guys that track big fat cars and use it without any fade. And it's pretty cheap, too.
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