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#1529914 03/19/06 06:26 AM
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I don't have a real high power setup, but it's nice. Anyways, I've got an mtx 421d amp. Sounds great, but at night with my headlights on at the higher volume I have not only dimming but even cutting out. While the car is in motion it does fine, but as soon as I engage the clutch and the motor gets to the lower rpm's it starts dimming and sometimes cuts out. What confuses me is I have a brand new alternator, an optima yellow top battery, AND a 1.5 farad cap... why am I still having problems?! I was thinkin maybe a 2nd car battery would eliminate my problem? Or maybe a bigger cap?


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are you running factory cable from the battery to the altenator?


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yes


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I'd say that could be your problem.


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Anything else it could possibly be? Like I say I only have problems at night when I have the headlights on. While I'm driving it's fine but when I engage the clutch or come to a stop and the engine gets to the lower RPM's the lights dim and the subs sometimes even cut out like it's not producing enough amps at the lower RPM's. My dad and I recently redid a large portion of the wiring so I would almost eliminate that as my problem. We either replaced everything or anything that looked good we just left alone.


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The wire could be good, just not big enough.


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Originally posted by Ed6407:
Anything else it could possibly be? Like I say I only have problems at night when I have the headlights on. While I'm driving it's fine but when I engage the clutch or come to a stop and the engine gets to the lower RPM's the lights dim and the subs sometimes even cut out like it's not producing enough amps at the lower RPM's. My dad and I recently redid a large portion of the wiring so I would almost eliminate that as my problem. We either replaced everything or anything that looked good we just left alone.




I get the same problem w/ a completely stock car & sound system. For me, I notice it when I roll the power windows down. During the day, they'll roll at different speeds depending how many I'm rolling up/down, and at night it causes the lights to dim in addition.


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Originally posted by IRingTwyce:
Originally posted by Ed6407:
Anything else it could possibly be? Like I say I only have problems at night when I have the headlights on. While I'm driving it's fine but when I engage the clutch or come to a stop and the engine gets to the lower RPM's the lights dim and the subs sometimes even cut out like it's not producing enough amps at the lower RPM's. My dad and I recently redid a large portion of the wiring so I would almost eliminate that as my problem. We either replaced everything or anything that looked good we just left alone.




I get the same problem w/ a completely stock car & sound system. For me, I notice it when I roll the power windows down. During the day, they'll roll at different speeds depending how many I'm rolling up/down, and at night it causes the lights to dim in addition.



I have the same problems as both you guys. It seems like my drivers side windows roll down faster than the passenger side ones. It could be the motors on the other side but I don't know. My lights also dim at night with my system and if I am rolling down windows. I will be looking in to see how this thing plays out. I am interested as well.


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Originally posted by GregDawg:
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I have the same problems as both you guys. It seems like my drivers side windows roll down faster than the passenger side ones. It could be the motors on the other side but I don't know. My lights also dim at night with my system and if I am rolling down windows. I will be looking in to see how this thing plays out. I am interested as well.




This has been happening on my car almost since day one (bought it new). I always suspected an underpowered alternator, but I remember someone on here once bragging how good the alts were that were on the Tours. So, is it the alternator, is it the battery cables, or both?


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I'd say check the following:

a) make sure the power cable to the amps from the battery are sufficient guage. Too small of a power cable over a long run will mean voltage drop and the amp will try to draw more current (amperage) to compensate or simply cut out in total.

b) make sure the alternator is putting out proper amperage. It may be the same as factory (130 amp) at a stated rpm, but the output drops as engine rpm drops. Get it load tested to make sure it is doing what it is supposed to do.

c) check the battery to make sure it is still good. I have a yellow top myself and they are good, but any battery that can't hold a charge puts that much more of a load on the alternator.

d) try things without the cap in the power stream. The cap is just another load that the alternator has to try to keep charged while providing power to everything else.



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