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Originally posted by svtProdigy:
Originally posted by Ray:
The ratio is lower. less turns per minute than the standard FD means a lower reving engine (better on gas on the freeway, etc), longer runs through each gear, higher mph in each gear at redline, etc. (for instance, it allows a 60mph speed before the 2-3 shift)
yeah 60 in second is nice...my accord does this and its a blast....
It's easy to do 60 in second with larger tires and a higher rev limiter...both easier mods that are cheaper since you will need tires and a tune on a modd'd car anyway, and then you don't loose your acceleration capability like with the higher FD. What if you decide one day to run slicks? THen you will want the better FD to get a better launch, especially if you can hold the traction.
It just turns out simpler in the long run.
I guess I said it too harshly when I said it isn't an option. It IS an option that I would say is best avoided unless you have lots of power or are tuning a highway ride or etc. But for 99% of the DIYrs it is not an otion.
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoâ�??¢:
Originally posted by Instigator:
Originally posted by todras:
{TH}My ongoing concern with the DIY on any MTX75 is ,as I have said in the past,a lot of the info in the transaxle forum is totally incorrect, that along with bad info from other owners is leading owners down the wrong path and getting them in deep s**t when they tear down an MTX. I interce when I see rubbish being posted and incorrect info be thrown out by those who know little of the MTX....no axe to grind here but for goodness sake stop taking the 'simple' view of an MTX. Either speak from experience or genuine understanding of the gearbox or say nothing. This guy followed the masses re 'you only need a ring gear' and got into deep s**t...which tells you, in most cases, the masses knowledge of the MTX75 is weak at best..I have a 'few' under my belt so I think I may know a little more...
...with the FDR change, could get himself in deep trouble he if he doesn't know what level of output shaft he has in the existing trans, but WTF do I know!!!!
are you talkin about me? 
holy crap dude, i didnt mean to piss you off..... 
I don't think he is pissed at you...
Simply stating that there is a lot of misinformation and your the most recent example of that misinformation!
Most recent VICTIM of it you mean.
Still, the information that said that both a ring and pinion was required has always been available on the Forums here, he just missed it that's all. [censored] happens.
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So, hey. I'd like to do this Zetec drive swap too. The only tools I have at hand right now are a ball point pen, a pair of scissors, a coffee stirrer, & a stapler. Will my wife still love me after this swap??
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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well i have the whole entire zetec transmission in my possession to use as a donor, and for big power, im sure a turbo oval port 3L counts right? i had zero traction with the hybrid and with the turbo will be worse. ive also got upgraded shift forks on the way 
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Originally posted by TourDeForce:
So, hey. I'd like to do this Zetec drive swap too. The only tools I have at hand right now are a ball point pen, a pair of scissors, a coffee stirrer, & a stapler. Will my wife still love me after this swap??
Probably...if you trained her well.
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Originally posted by TourDeForce:
So, hey. I'd like to do this Zetec drive swap too. The only tools I have at hand right now are a ball point pen, a pair of scissors, a coffee stirrer, & a stapler. Will my wife still love me after this swap??
only if you are macgyver
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How many different pinion gears are available for the zetec FD upgrade? Is there a way to measure the output shaft inorder to find what size we will need? Can we take the numbers of the tranny inorder to find the one we need?
How much HP would one consider to be enough to do the swap if the tranny will be open anyway? 250-300 at the wheels?
I may be doing this in a 99 tranny.
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alot of people will tell you only do the swap if you got big power, like a turbo. i personally wished i woulda had it with the 3L hybrid. now that im going turbo its a must IMO
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Originally posted by warmonger:
It's easy to do 60 in second with larger tires and a higher rev limiter...both easier mods that are cheaper since you will need tires and a tune on a modd'd car anyway, and then you don't loose your acceleration capability like with the higher FD. What if you decide one day to run slicks? THen you will want the better FD to get a better launch, especially if you can hold the traction.
It just turns out simpler in the long run.
I guess I said it too harshly when I said it isn't an option. It IS an option that I would say is best avoided unless you have lots of power or are tuning a highway ride or etc. But for 99% of the DIYrs it is not an otion.
Tom, I wasn't trying to advocate it, I was explaining how it functioned as it does, as the poster above had asked. Sorry if it seemed that way.
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No worries, I wasn't even thinking about that. I was quoting the guy who quoted you.  You are correct about function and benefits too, I just wanted to point out that there are good reasons that the duratec FD was put in by Ford, and good reasons to leave it in too (like no additional headaches). It is a good option for someone with a high power car, LIKE YOURS, or someone who travels the highway a lot and wants better economy. All that being said, I wouldn't trust myself doing that swap on those gears unless I obtained a few more tools. I can't see the normal DIY'r doing that one.
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