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Originally posted by mossdahaus:
What modifications do I need to make if I go with the buckshot engine? Just tranny upgrades? If so, what kind of upgrades? Stazi, do you have a lift/garage that could handle it or no? If not, I have a garage/lift with over $10ok of snap-on tools avalible any weekend and night
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Originally posted by Stazi:
I'm in Livonia, and I do 3L swaps too. If you are serious about going the 3L route, drop me a PM. Be warned, a 3L swap, with the necessary transmission mods/improvements, plus the labor to do the swap and the extra parts you need to buy will cost you around $3500. Sure you can do it cheaper, but that's just asking for trouble....especially if you think you are going to drop the untouched stock tranny back in and not think that you're going to break the diff or crap-out the synchros.
I'm still in the market to have you do my 3.0 swap this summer, whats all included for that price? Just curious, what tranny mods are done etc. Also how long do you usually want a car for? Thanks Stazi!
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Not trying to steal Business from Stazi, but I have a shop too. Can do 3.0's, trans removals and such as well. As I stated before not trying to steal business from Stazi becuase we are obviously friends.
Just another option...
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Is the PM function broken?
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoShoâ�??¢:
the 1800 includes a brand new shortblock and the work done to it! I think... 
yea, I believe it does. It still isn't worth the 1800 IMO. You can find a complete low mileage (under 5-10k) for around $3-500. Which it will be brokn in and there is no huge difference between a new engine and one with 5k on it...especially if you replace all bearings and whatnot. So $1300 to modify it is real steep if you ask me. Especially when CEG'er do the whole swap for you with upgraded everything for around $3-3500.
I have nothing against Buckshot at all. I've heard good things, all I'm saying is there is a much cheaper (and just as reliable) route to take.
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And how many people don't want to prep the engine's themselves? Quite a few people want a motor to drop in and will pay for it. Not everyone trusts themselves to rering, grind, install new bearings, gaskets etc. You're paying for labor and a motor that has been inspected and torn down. Not smart to get a $500 and go through it before installing as I have learned the hard way as well as have others.
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Originally posted by todras:
And how many people don't want to prep the engine's themselves? Quite a few people want a motor to drop in and will pay for it. Not everyone trusts themselves to rering, grind, install new bearings, gaskets etc. You're paying for labor and a motor that has been inspected and torn down. Not smart to get a $500 and go through it before installing as I have learned the hard way as well as have others.
ok, i agree with the "not everyone wants to do it and is willing to pay for it" but with a buckshot engine, you STILL need to add components to it and still NEED to upgrade the tranny and install it in the car. I said CEG'ers will do all of that for you for about $1500 more than what youd be paying for just the buckshot engine. In the end, you'd save money...
But how is an engine with 5k miles on it, that has been completely torn down and rebuilt by someone who knows what they are doing, and knows what is bad and good as far as condition of parts...not as reliable as an engine that buckshot has done? Simply because the engine has been run before vs one that hasn't? If its complely rebuilt by someone with knowledge...it IS just as reliable.
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Originally posted by posthuman63t:
Originally posted by todras:
And how many people don't want to prep the engine's themselves? Quite a few people want a motor to drop in and will pay for it. Not everyone trusts themselves to rering, grind, install new bearings, gaskets etc. You're paying for labor and a motor that has been inspected and torn down. Not smart to get a $500 and go through it before installing as I have learned the hard way as well as have others.
ok, i agree with the "not everyone wants to do it and is willing to pay for it" but with a buckshot engine, you STILL need to add components to it and still NEED to upgrade the tranny and install it in the car. I said CEG'ers will do all of that for you for about $1500 more than what youd be paying for just the buckshot engine. In the end, you'd save money...
But how is an engine with 5k miles on it, that has been completely torn down and rebuilt by someone who knows what they are doing, and knows what is bad and good as far as condition of parts...not as reliable as an engine that buckshot has done? Simply because the engine has been run before vs one that hasn't? If its complely rebuilt by someone with knowledge...it IS just as reliable.
You Obviously don't get the point,
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Posthuman,
You might want to actually figure out what product I provide and what you're actually talking about before posting on a public forum and making zero sense.
FYI at last price check a new shortblock from Bill J was $1300 plus shipping, plus $500 core charge and still needs prepped and doesn't include upgraded bearings etc, etc. I don't want to argue with anyone on here, but the main thing for anyone doing, building, buying a 3L, etc is buyer beware you get what you pay for.
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