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Originally posted by Tourige:
yea, that and ive seen pics of contours on 3 wheels and it scared the hell out of me.
3 wheels=no problem (except a very stiff swaybar)
2 wheels="Whoa! Let some steering out, dude!"
You only need 3 points to define a plane. Most FWD cars will lift the inside rear under hard cornering if they are set up with a stiff rear bar. Generally, if this happens all the time, you need a stiffer front bar, or a lighter rear bar, but not necessarily.
On RWD cars with stiff front bars, you'll see the same thing, but it is often the inside front that lifts. Still a potential tuning issue, but not as scary looking for some reason.
Either way, not really a sign of impending rollover.
Function before fashion.
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"Toss the Contour into a corner, and it's as easy to catch as a softball thrown by a preschooler." -Edmunds, 1998
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I 3 wheel my scort all the time. It only has a 1mm larger than stock rear sway bar (and of course springs,struts,etc.).
98.5 SVT
91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
FS: SVT rear sway bar
WTB: Very cheap beater
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If you want to see something fun watch a sentra SE-R Spec-V AutoX. They tripod all the time stock.
Beaten - 2003 MazdaSpeed Protege 29K <- broken hearted
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You definitely don't need a bigger rear sway bar or some other modification to lift the inside rear wheel on a SVTC. Such mods certainly make it more prevalent but are in no way necessary.
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Really? The SVT's bars much really make a difference, because I never came close until I got the Aussie bar.
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Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Really? The SVT's bars much really make a difference, because I never came close until I got the Aussie bar.
SVTs have the smaller front bar, so the balance of the weight transfer rate is moved toward the back. That might be all the difference you need.
I say "generally" above because I know there are exceptions as noted.
Function before fashion.
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Dang, I wish that I had discovered that there was a larger front bar available. I certainly would have used it.
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SHOshop made a bigger bar too. The SVT bar isn't that much softer, so it's not worth swapping - unless, say, the engine is alreay out.
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Originally posted by weargle:
Dang, I wish that I had discovered that there was a larger front bar available. I certainly would have used it.
Why?
98.5 SVT
91 Escort GT (almost sold)
96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
FS: SVT rear sway bar
WTB: Very cheap beater
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