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so how far off will my mph be since im switching from a se 130mph to a svt 160mph cluster
and how can i fix it so mph is right?
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Originally posted by rkneeshaw3.0:
The dash and gauge cluster removal is probably one of the easiest things to do on a contour. It will take you maybe 5-10 minutes to get it out.

Originally posted by CSVT1214:
The needles will have to be removed in order to install the new gauges. This is where it get's tricky. Proper alignment of the needles is very important.

I can post a few little tips for people if needed.

P.S. Remember the position of all 4 needles at time of removal.




I'm interested, this is the only part that I'm nervous about




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Me to... i removed my needles once, and there almost perfect... the speedo is near perfect if not already, and the tach is only off by a bit...

but doing it the second time, and leaving them off, makes me nervous now too..


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The best thing to do when you are going to remove the needles... drive around till the car gets warm. Then, stop, with the engine running and in park, and write down the exact positon of the tach, temp, and fuel. I made little diagrams of the gauges so I wouldn't forget. Remember to put everything back on again when the car is warm, running, and ideling. For the speedometer... don't drive slowly in a parking lot and try to guess. It doesn't work. The best thing to do is pulg in the gauge cluter w/o the lexan cover, and have one of your friends drive ahead of you. Talk to him on your cell phone or a radio, and have him get up to 60mph, and set his cruise control. Then match his speed and set your cruise control. After you are all set, stick the needle on at 60. It make take a few attemps, but once you get it, the car will be perfectly accurate. Good luck.


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Originally posted by ZeroHour:
Just a note, not only will "chrome" give better reflection of light, so would white paint.




Maybe, but think about your headlights Your factory color now should be white.


I think that these gauges are like the TBird gauges, in that they have a nautral resting spot. As was stated, get the car to operating temp, note the gauges spots, take a pic, whatever works for you. The speedo should be fine once you place it back on at 0, but I am not 100% sure because I do not have a cluster or car to test out.


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Originally posted by Matt R:
There is 10 total. 5 to start with, not 4, to remove the bezel. One behind the defroster switch on the right side, 2 above the lexan on the cluster, and 2 behind the contour logo under the center vents. Once those are off, then there is 5 screws holding the cluster in, 3 on the bottom and 2 on top. Then you have to pop the 2 multiplugs out, and then pry the black tabs with a flathead screwdriver to remove the lexan covering. After that, if you want to remove the gauges, there is various torx bolts holding them in. Lots of screws to remove!





Add Matt R's know how to this, Ill try and edit his notes into these steps tomorrow.


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GAUGE INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS

This is just a guideline for replacement of the gauge faces on MN12 Thunderbirds and Cougars (more specifically 1994-1996 models). Don't hold me responsible for anything that may go wrong while following these instructions. These instructions are for entertainment usage only. If you learn something from it, congratulations.

1.Put some refreshing drinks in the fridge.
2. Start up your car and let it get up to operating temperature.
3. While it's warming up, the panel under the steering column needs to be removed. Using a 8mm socket and wrench, remove the 3 bolts at the bottom of the panel. Now grab the panel at the top and give a strong pull straight back. I usually grab the panel at the slot at the top of the panel at the steering column. It should pop out of place; it has a bunch of those spring clips.
4. This exposes three bolts for the black part of the dash. Using a 7mm socket and wrench, remove the 3 bolts at the bottom of the black part of the dash. There are two other bolts above the speedometer and tach that run straight up. There should be 5 bolts altogether.

5. You might want to shut off the car by now, if you haven't already.
6. Tilt the steering wheel to its lowest position. Grab the black piece of the dash and give it a tug straight back. It should pop loose and move towards you. If you're lucky, you'll only loose 1 of those spring clips. Now the tough part. You can either squeeze the top down in order to get it to come out, or you can disassemble the plastic shroud around the steering column by removing three screws from underneath. Pull the black piece out and disconnect the wires running to the rear window defroster switch.
7. You will now see the gauge package. You can remove the clear cover by using a 5.5mm socket, extensions and socket wrench. There should be 7 screws holding the clear plastic cover on. Don't lose the screws.
8. Note the positions of all of the needles. You can use some masking tape on the black bezel to mark their location.
9. To remove the gauge package from the car, remove the 4 screws (using a 7mm socket) that hold the gauge cluster to the dash. There is one in each corner.
10. Now that the cluster is loose, pull it out slightly and reach behind to disconnect the wire harnesses. There is one on each side (both have gray plugs) and they come apart by squeezing both clips and pulling. Thin, flexible hands are good at this time.
11. Now pull out the cluster out of the car (careful, the black bezel can come loose) and hold it above your head and say "Woohoo". Now set the cluster down wherever you're going to work on it and go get a refreshing drink, because I know you deserve it.
12. Now that you're refreshed, hopefully not too refreshed, it's time to start the disassembly of the cluster.
13. Remove the black bezel from the cluster. Please note that these gauges are Electrostatic Discharge (ESD) sensitive, much like computer hardware. Please take precautions to eliminate the chance of ESD damage. A precaution can be (but not limited to) using a grounding strap. Now gently pull the speedometer and tachometer from the cluster. They pull right out. Next pull out the 3 other gauge assemblies. Try to keep them in order, just to limit confusion.
14. To remove the needles, I used a regular fork. Just slide the tines of the fork on each side of the pivot point of the needle and carefully work the needle up and off the gauge. Let's start with the temp gauge. When removing the needle, try not to rotate it in anyway, this may help with needle realignment. Pop the needle off and set it down. The factory gauge face is glued to the clear plastic framework. Just peel the face off the frame. Don't clean off the glue, because it will be used to stick on the new faces. Grab the new temperature gauge face and stick it to the clear framework, aligning the holes. The faces should stick quite well. If they don't, I suggest 3M Super 77 spray adhesive, that's just what I use.
15. This step is optional, but I feel it is necessary. Flip the needles over and carefully scrape the white paint off the back of the needles. Use a sharp utility knife and scrape away. Now, I went to Wal-Mart and picked up a small bottle of Testors fluorescent orange model paint. I laid down several thin coats of orange until I got the desired look from the front. This way, the needles will be orange against white during the day and glowing orange against black at night. Also, paint the white on top of the black portion of the needle, to match the needles. You can choose whatever color you want, just remember not to dark.
16. Now, if you're feeling lucky, you can press the needle back on and take your chances with the alignment. Or you can just lightly press the needle back on so that it's easy to remove if it needs to be realigned.

17. The other gauges (Volt, Fuel and Oil Pressure) are exactly the same as the Temperature gauge. Due to variances, the Voltage and Fuels gauge faces may have to be cut apart and adhered to the clear framework independently for everything to line up correctly.
18. The speedometer is slightly different. Note the location of the needle when at rest. Notice that if you flick the needle, it returns to the same position. Now fork the needle off and peel the face off. There will be two green plastic items that are used around the odometers that might stick to the face. If they do, pop them back into place in the clear framework. Resist the temptation to alter the mileage of your vehicle at this time. That is a big "No-No". Drop the new gauge face onto the clear framework. The hole around the trip odometer reset pole should be tight. Make sure everything lines up. This is where taking your time with the knife and the straight edge will make a difference. You can press the needle onto the speedometer such that it comes to rest at the same spot it was before. It should come to rest slightly above the trip odometer reset pole.
19. The tachometer is similar to the speedometer. The needle comes to rest at 0 RPM when it has no power, so you can play with it and the needle should return to 0 RPM. Pop off the needle and using a small (#0) Phillips screwdriver, remove the three screws. Don't lose those. The faces should peel right off now. Stick on the new face and reassemble the tach.
20. Assemble the cluster by installing the smaller gauges first and then the two larger ones.
21. Go back to the car and plug the wiring harnesses back in and start the car. Let the car reach operating temperature and is running the same conditions as when you marked the needle positions (i.e. A/C on or off, stuff like that). Make sure that all the needles move freely and indicate the correct position (remember the masking tape on the bezel, now's the time to align the needles.) Align the needles, press them down pretty firm and replace the bezel and install the clear plastic cover.
22. The rest is simply reassembly of the dashboard, which is the reverse of disassembly.
23. Sit back with another refreshing beverage and bask in your handy work. Go and show all of your family, friends and neighbors.





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For the needles don't fret guys.. it isnt too hard at all to re-align them.

FUEL- Digi cam and place back
TEMP- if your car's properly working after the usual warm up place is smack dab verticle
RPM- spring loaded against the rest pin. Remove it and digi cam its possition where it naturaly lies. Then go drive around with the plastic shield off and adjust it depending on the idle. The simplest adjust was to easily redline it and make sure it matches.
SPEED: spring loaded against the rest pin. Remove it and digi cam its possition where it naturaly lies. Determine it's speed at the redline cut off then make sure u match that with it's new placement. Tends to be easier doing a 0-60 run since we are infamous for just missing 60. Just a few easy checks. Then some pacing with another car while on a cell call with that person can do wonders.

I have taken off the needles and am 100% sure they are perfectly accurate. A few tests I did to verify later on was with my xcal 2 was to set the idle to something odd and see how accurately the needles displayed it. And then raised the redline and made sure I reached 60 in second. All the speeding warning signs have my speed dead on as well.

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Yeah, it's not so bad to re-install them. Just have to be creative when aligning them.

I have tested my tach and speedo with a CarChip EX and it's pefect.


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so just to refresh since im having a bum night... what comes in this kit? and what do we have to replace with our gauges?


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will the stock dimming work with these gauges?


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