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Yes you CANNOT mix the cam caps at all in eithn position orientaion or location. Even flipping it upside down will make it crack, then basically the ENTIRE head becomes a piece of JUNK. ZetecNinja mix around his caps and ended up snapping his cam and the caps and that's why he doesn't have a Contour anymore!  Theat's what happens when you try and rebuild a motor without referring to a manual.
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If you search on here for "cam cap orientation", you will find a thread by me concerning that exact matter on my "race block" heads. I'm well aware of proper orientation.
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Originally posted by Buckshot77:
The caps are matched to the head, not the cam. Each set of caps is line bored to each set of heads. So make sure you use the caps from the heads you're using and also make sure that they go back in the same orientation and location on each head. I always lay mine out and number them when removing just to make reinstallation easier. I always team up each cap, lifter, and follower together to go back in the same spot and strictly move the cams between heads. Some say the finger follower should go with teh cam, but I haven't seen compelling evidence of that yet.
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I "bagged and tagged" mine. Orientation is easy IF the stamping can be found on the cap. If you guys remember the thread that I mentioned above, MANY of my caps where completely missing stampings and with time, I managed to figure out which went where.
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I don't "bag and Tag" I actually lay them all out on a flat surface grouped in proper orientation and direction, then give them a final cleaning, lube, and reinstall during the head assembly. It sucks up a lot of flat surface area, but if you use cardboard or something you can move it to a secure out of the way location while prepping the engine.
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That is exactly the same way that I do it! I set them on a shelf in the same orientation, et cetera.
lol Not the first time you've talked about doing things the same way I do.
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I have done it that way, but I didn't have enough unobstructed space to do it this time, so I bagged them all and labeld the bags like so: 7R-L, 7R-R, etc.
7R-L = 7 on right head (left side RFF in bag)
7R-R = 7 on right head (right side RFF in bag)
Then in one of those bags I have the 7R cam cap.
All these baggies are in an open handle office box, which can be moved around the garage with ease. This allowed me to clear up my work bench for the head portings & cc measuring.
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Originally posted by warmonger:
That is exactly the same way that I do it! I set them on a shelf in the same orientation, et cetera.
lol Not the first time you've talked about doing things the same way I do.
I stuck mine in order on a piece of styrofoam but cardboard works for most commoners.  j/k. A little... 
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by warmonger:
That is exactly the same way that I do it! I set them on a shelf in the same orientation, et cetera.
lol Not the first time you've talked about doing things the same way I do.
I stuck mine in order on a piece of styrofoam but cardboard works for most commoners. j/k. A little...
Now all you need to do is figure out how to do a brake job and you'll insure your position as head commoner.
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Does that position come with a nifty hat and a big belt buckle?
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I too have noticed that the stamped numbers aren't always exactly visible, so before I take them off I always scratch in the nunber and leter into the top of the cap with a scribe so in cas eI dropped them on the flor I'd know where they go. Typically though I take off one cam at a time and replace the caps immediately so that they alwasy go back on the way the came off so nothing gets mixed up or lost. Becuase like I sai, damaging or losing a cam cap basically makes the entire head a useless lump of metal cos you cannot substitue a cap from another engine.
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