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Originally posted by TwoTwinTours: Originally posted by MadMerc97: Originally posted by LocoGSR: Turbo?
+1 Do it so I can copy you and make it better.
...but it's an automatic.....
I'll sell you my V6 MTX to help fund my Zetec build....
Why does everyone tell me this? I've driven plenty of turbo automatics that were really cool, like my friends' Jetta GLI ATX. That isn't a high-dollar car, and it's ATX can deal with it...
what's ya'lls aversion to turbo automatics? I think it would make my car unique...
J.T.
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Just think about Hector with his ATX S/C... Why sell it WHY?!?!
Well snow is coming!!!
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Exactly. If Hector could do it with a blower, I can do it with a turbo. Now I'm pumped up. So what donor car would yield a turbine suitable for my car? maybe the one from the MB 300TD? Or what about from an old audi or mitsubishi? Most of the process would have to be fabbed up custom-like. I guess I could replace the catalytic converter with the turbo and it's piping. I could put a high-flow one down after the turbine. That position would keep the turbine cooled down by the cooling fan and air flowing in through the grill. It would also simplify the running of lines to an external oil cooler. Then, after removing my worthless AC components, the free space freed up would allow for the installation of an intercooler and intake piping. Of course I would need to upgrade the fuel delivery systems and change the computer to operate correctly with boost as well. Speaking of boost, I wouldn't plan too much, as in under 8 psi. I would like to keep upgrades to the valvetrain to a minimum, but if it has to be done, I don't really mind.
I don't think the guys over in F/I would even talk to me about this kind of project so I'll try it here. What do you guys think about my rough thesis of what I want to do?
J.T.
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CD4E + 8psi of low RPM high tourque boost = Dead CD4E
Ohsigmachi '96 GL MTX Zetec
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Originally posted by ohsigmachi: CD4E + 8psi of low RPM high tourque boost = Dead CD4E
I said less than 8 psi. I believe Hector was putting out about that much boost and his didn't die. Peculiar...
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One thing I recommmend is put in ALL ROYAL PURPLE fluids ATF fluid, oil, antifreeze coolant everything!!!! in case all of you didnt know.
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This isn't to rain on anybody's parade, but.... The Zetec is just not meant for N/A applications. Build a turbo or s/c setup. On FocalJet the major modded Zetecs hit 170-180wHP. That includes; head, cams, increased compression, intake, exhaust, exhaust header, udp, intake manifold, custom tuning, larger TB and MAF. But a reasonable turbo will put down 220wHP no problem (on crap 87 pump gas) and costs 1/3 the price. If you want to go N/A just to go N/A, more power to you. But if you really want a decently fast car, FI is the only way to go.
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I'm still thinking about that carbureted idea. Hey sleeper, if I did that carb setup, what kind of Computer changes would I need to do? could I eliminate the ECU completely? I would love to do that idea.
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Quote:
Originally posted by ohsigmachi: -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CD4E + 8psi of low RPM high tourque boost = Dead CD4E
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I said less than 8 psi. I believe Hector was putting out about that much boost and his didn't die. Peculiar...
I was refering to a smallish turbo setup thats yields a high tourqe #, low in the RPM range. Hector ran an SC which gives the vast majority of its gains in the upper ranges and doesn't produce near the tourque of a turbo.
Once more with feeling "high tourque @low RPM + CD4E = dead CD4E"
If you insist on TCing an ATX I would suggest a trans cooler at a bare minimum.
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well no duh. of course I would do a Trans Cooler. I really am leaning more towards the Carbbed idea tho. It's cheaper and yields better gains.
J.T.
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