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Who here has done this?
I'm sitting here looking at the engine bay and have decided to go an entirely different route than everything i have seen. However, the problem is that the turbo on the Contour is clocked differently than what i would like to do. I'm reading up on this, but thought that I would ask.
One thing that I can't seem to find online is the torque specs for the housing bolts.
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Clocking a turbo = rotating either the compressor housing or turbine housing relative to the center shaft housing. This way you can rotate the housing relative to eachother
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Originally posted by fastcougar: One thing that I can't seem to find online is the torque specs for the housing bolts.
tight? lol...i have "clocked" a turbo a couple times, and all i did was tighten them...really tight!
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I rotated mine about 45 degrees iirc. Just tightened them up really tight after i was done.
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Originally posted by beyondloadedSE: I rotated mine about 45 degrees iirc. Just tightened them up really tight after i was done.
What he said. But remember the housing is Aluminum so don't go f'en crazy on tightening the bolts.
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I even clocked a turbo that wasn't supposed to be clocked!!!
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Originally posted by stilov: I even clocked a turbo that wasn't supposed to be clocked!!!
Got pictures?
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this is what it looks like before (notice the exhaust inlet to the left on it) and this is how I clocked it And I had to spin the cartridge about 180 degrees.
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i had to rotate my gt35r about 180 degrees, i just tightenend the bolts real tight. about 1/2 turn past hand tight. cuz my compressor housing is also aluminum
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GT35R...on a 3L? That's a 600hp turbo and it's HUGE! I don't know about the streetability of that turbo on a 3L, it would be so peaky.
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Well, we'll have to wait and see now?  I'm very curious as to just how that graph is going to look.
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Something like:
750rpm - BAAAAAAAAAAAH-2000-AAAAAAAAHHHHHH-4000-AAAAAAAHH-5000- WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
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Originally posted by Stazi: Something like:
750rpm - BAAAAAAAAAAAH-2000-AAAAAAAAHHHHHH-4000-AAAAAAAHH-5000- WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!
looks like we might be finding the limits of the mtx-75 gears.
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Originally posted by Stazi: GT35R...on a 3L? That's a 600hp turbo and it's HUGE! I don't know about the streetability of that turbo on a 3L, it would be so peaky.
not really. If youve seen pics of the turbine and how small it is.....but whats really cool is the turbine wheel. it is one of the most aggressive ive seen, and the dual ball bearings are crazy. ill spool it so quick it wont even be funny. ive used header wrap and thermotec out my ass on the crossover/up-pipe too. plenty of heat and early spool. 
from what ive learned so far, my power curve will be peaky for sure, but it will be broad.
of course thats all speculation until i wrap up the build here this week and get here on the dyno once i break her in. i personally think 3 liters is plenty of displacement for a gt35r....
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Originally posted by Instigator: Originally posted by Stazi: GT35R...on a 3L? That's a 600hp turbo and it's HUGE! I don't know about the streetability of that turbo on a 3L, it would be so peaky.
i personally think 3 liters is plenty of displacement for a gt35r....
with the right tune you should have no problem spooling that turbo with a 3L...hell STi's do it all the time with their 2.5...
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Awesome! Great work man, I wish you well and a speedy assembly.
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Originally posted by Instigator: Originally posted by Stazi: GT35R...on a 3L? That's a 600hp turbo and it's HUGE! I don't know about the streetability of that turbo on a 3L, it would be so peaky.
not really. If youve seen pics of the turbine and how small it is.....but whats really cool is the turbine wheel. it is one of the most aggressive ive seen, and the dual ball bearings are crazy. ill spool it so quick it wont even be funny. ive used header wrap and thermotec out my ass on the crossover/up-pipe too. plenty of heat and early spool. 
Pics??? Specs???
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Originally posted by Stazi: Originally posted by Instigator: Originally posted by Stazi: GT35R...on a 3L? That's a 600hp turbo and it's HUGE! I don't know about the streetability of that turbo on a 3L, it would be so peaky.
not really. If youve seen pics of the turbine and how small it is.....but whats really cool is the turbine wheel. it is one of the most aggressive ive seen, and the dual ball bearings are crazy. ill spool it so quick it wont even be funny. ive used header wrap and thermotec out my ass on the crossover/up-pipe too. plenty of heat and early spool. 
Pics??? Specs???
soon, im waiting on my wastegate flanges before i finish putting everything together. i wanna post pics of everything at once once im finished
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Well I just bought a GT3071R w/T25 .64A/R hot-side. this puppy should get me pretty close to 400fwhp
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That will be something to see!  Take some pics and compare it to the T28 would you.
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It'll be a while till I can do comparison shots, but when I get it Ill post pics of it.
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Why? You should already have that thing on jackstands and your old turbo out....with you waiting at the post office with drool falling off you lips and nipping every postman who walks by with 12" package.
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Originally posted by warmonger: drool falling off you lips and nipping every postman who walks by with 12" package.
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You people and your fuggin modern slang.  Ya can't say nothin these days without someone thinkin of dicks-n-chicks...............or other things
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Originally posted by KingpinSVT: Originally posted by warmonger: drool falling off you lips and nipping every postman who walks by with 12" package.
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Originally posted by warmonger: dicks-n-chicks
Tranny stuff belongs in transaxle.
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Originally posted by todras: Originally posted by warmonger: dicks-n-chicks
Tranny stuff belongs in transaxle.
Funny haha!
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Originally posted by todras: Originally posted by warmonger: dicks-n-chicks
Tranny stuff belongs in transaxle.

I see you played your get-out-of-jail-free card. So what happened? Everything is okay now I take it...it's been boring around here without you man!
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