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#1410000 10/14/05 02:51 AM
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Yes HP plus and HPS in the rear. I just said autox because hawk says that's what they're good for, and just to say it's a performance pad for anyone not familiar with the hawk line.

I don't really mind the noise, just wanted to make sure it's ok.


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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Yes HP plus and HPS in the rear. I just said autox because hawk says that's what they're good for, and just to say it's a performance pad for anyone not familiar with the hawk line.

I don't really mind the noise, just wanted to make sure it's ok.




I don't know about mixing *track* pads on one axle w/ *street* pads on the other. Seems like they're be a conflict there. I'd go with all Plus or all HPS, depending on your needs. Anyway, took a quick look at Hawk's site. I've never heard of them, but I wouldn't mind trying out some of those HPS for myself.

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There is no problem mixing pads atleast a pad that is designed for autox (so not all at track pad) and a performance street pad. I looked around and a lot of people do it. The rear does a lot less of the braking, so to save money on initial purchase, future purchase (the hps will last longer), and rotor wear, I went with hps in the rear.


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It is a common thing to mix styles from front to rear. It is most common to use a more agressive pad on the front.

Think about it, even the factory does it.


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Originally posted by Big Jim:
It is a common thing to mix styles from front to rear. It is most common to use a more agressive pad on the front.

Think about it, even the factory does it.





No they don't. I've never seen where the factory will mix track pads with street pads.

Semi-mets with organic and ceramic, yes.

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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
There is no problem mixing pads atleast a pad that is designed for autox (so not all at track pad) and a performance street pad. I looked around and a lot of people do it. The rear does a lot less of the braking, so to save money on initial purchase, future purchase (the hps will last longer), and rotor wear, I went with hps in the rear.





Do what you want. I'd never mix race-day pads with street pads...and if I chose race-day pads, I'd be sure to get rotors that were up for the task. I know that it's common to mix pads...semi-mets w/ ceramic and organic on OEM rotors. Didn't know it was okay to mix race/non-race.

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HP+ are NOT race pads. The HPS and HP+ are both street compounds that have good cold torque.


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Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
HP+ are NOT race pads. The HPS and HP+ are both street compounds that have good cold torque.




"HPS - Performance Street Compound"

"HP Plus - Autocross & Track Compound"


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" The HP Plus Ferro-Carbon material can take the heat at the track and get you home safely without having to change your brake pads. This compound was designed for autocross, Solo II, and Track Day applications."

Note that the HP+ pads are found under "Performance", NOT "Motorsports". The reason it's bad to mess with race/street pads is because race pads ONLY work well at high temps. Street pads, with the exception of pads like the HP+, fade, often quite badly, at high temps. This means your brake bias will dramatically change with temperature, and your car may not stop well when cold. Both are obviously bad situations.

HP+ pads are streetable pads that work well at low temperatures, and thus are completely safe for Kremit's use.


Like Kremit said before you started crapping all over this thread,

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There is no problem mixing pads, at least a pad that is designed for autox (so not all at track pad) and a performance street pad.




And since you've never heard of Hawk, I'd say it's a safe assumption you don't know jack about high performance pads. So why would you post at all?


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As long as they are giving you the braking balance that you are looking for mixing pads is not a problem (On the miata it is common to put good pads on the rear and normal street pads on the front.)

All the HP+ that I have heard at AutoX make a squeaking noise when braking so I don't think it is anything to worry about.


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