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Originally posted by Swazo:
1. It looks like it mounts to the PS/top engine mount, which is fairly different on Contiques. Adapting this aspect would be the key issue to making it work correctly so that the serpintine belt was perfectly aligned.
2. Our engines sit much higher than in Escapes,not only would the supercharger sit above the hood line, but it's outlet would be even higher. A HUGH cowl would be needed to enclose it with room to move.
Consider this, the IAC has clearance issues in a Contique with a stock hood because it mounts ontop of the 3L UIM, let alone a SC'er. Look how low the UIM sits in the Escape engines bay.
3. A 3L front bank valve cover would also need to be used for the different oil cap location.
4. A 3L UIM (plastic or aluminum) would need to be used.
That's what I see right off the bat, I'm sure I'm overlooking something(s)......
Hood would look god awful. What about the new blower used with the ATX cougar kit?! This could be a nice option??!?!
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Originally posted by Swazo:
1. It looks like it mounts to the PS/top engine mount, which is fairly different on Contiques. Adapting this aspect would be the key issue to making it work correctly so that the serpintine belt was perfectly aligned.Quote:
It's possible, but according to Kenne Bell it attaches to the upper motor mount.
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2. Our engines sit much higher than in Escapes,not only would the supercharger sit above the hood line, but it's outlet would be even higher. A HUGH cowl would be needed to enclose it with room to move.
Consider this, the IAC has clearance issues in a Contique with a stock hood because it mounts ontop of the 3L UIM, let alone a SC'er. Look how low the UIM sits in the Escape engines bay.
The blower itself, minus the outlet, is only .5" taller then the highest point of the 3L UIM. The outlet manifold is approx 2.5" tall (notice the angle of it, there is more clearance at the front) and the outlet pipe is 2" O.D. hence my earlier comment of 3" of clearance needed to allow engine movement. I'm not basing this off of speculation from pics... i did look into this.
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3. A 3L front bank valve cover would also need to be used for the different oil cap location.
Good point, I didn't even notice that.
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4. A 3L UIM (plastic or aluminum) would need to be used.
As stated in my original post.
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That's what I see right off the bat, I'm sure I'm overlooking something(s)......
I'm sure there are other small bits that would need to be addressed.
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Quit talking about it.....and somebody do it! 
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2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
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2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
RET: 00 Cabernet Red Ford Contour Zetec ATX SUPERCHARGED
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Originally posted by Swazo:
1. It looks like it mounts to the PS/top engine mount, which is fairly different on Contiques. Adapting this aspect would be the key issue to making it work correctly so that the serpintine belt was perfectly aligned.
2. Our engines sit much higher than in Escapes,not only would the supercharger sit above the hood line, but it's outlet would be even higher. A HUGH cowl would be needed to enclose it with room to move.
Consider this, the IAC has clearance issues in a Contique with a stock hood because it mounts ontop of the 3L UIM, let alone a SC'er. Look how low the UIM sits in the Escape engines bay.
3. A 3L front bank valve cover would also need to be used for the different oil cap location.
4. A 3L UIM (plastic or aluminum) would need to be used.
That's what I see right off the bat, I'm sure I'm overlooking something(s)......
Hood would look god awful. What about the new blower used with the ATX cougar kit?! This could be a nice option??!?!
IF they go into production, lower their price and are available for MTX's 
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Originally posted by WorldTour:
Originally posted by Swazo:
1. It looks like it mounts to the PS/top engine mount, which is fairly different on Contiques. Adapting this aspect would be the key issue to making it work correctly so that the serpintine belt was perfectly aligned.Quote:
It's possible, but according to Kenne Bell it attaches to the upper motor mount.
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2. Our engines sit much higher than in Escapes,not only would the supercharger sit above the hood line, but it's outlet would be even higher. A HUGH cowl would be needed to enclose it with room to move.
Consider this, the IAC has clearance issues in a Contique with a stock hood because it mounts ontop of the 3L UIM, let alone a SC'er. Look how low the UIM sits in the Escape engines bay.
The blower itself, minus the outlet, is only .5" taller then the highest point of the 3L UIM. The outlet manifold is approx 2.5" tall (notice the angle of it, there is more clearance at the front) and the outlet pipe is 2" O.D. hence my earlier comment of 3" of clearance needed to allow engine movement. I'm not basing this off of speculation from pics... i did look into this.
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3. A 3L front bank valve cover would also need to be used for the different oil cap location.
Good point, I didn't even notice that.
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4. A 3L UIM (plastic or aluminum) would need to be used.
As stated in my original post.
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That's what I see right off the bat, I'm sure I'm overlooking something(s)......
I'm sure there are other small bits that would need to be addressed.
1. We're talking about the samething. The top engine mount is the P/S mount. The Escape's is pretty different than ours. When doing my 3L swap, I needed the newer/smaller bolt version used on late 98+ duratec Contiques. The stealership tried to give me an Escape's, which looked totally different 
2. Fitment is still tight in our engine bays. I have the updated oil pan/baffel, and had to get the correct dip stick too. The top of the same dip stick you see in the pic of the Escape's engine bay, hits the mesh in my vented EVO style CF hood. Look how much lower it is than the SC'er
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Originally posted by Swazo:
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Originally posted by Swazo:
1. It looks like it mounts to the PS/top engine mount, which is fairly different on Contiques. Adapting this aspect would be the key issue to making it work correctly so that the serpintine belt was perfectly aligned.
2. Our engines sit much higher than in Escapes,not only would the supercharger sit above the hood line, but it's outlet would be even higher. A HUGH cowl would be needed to enclose it with room to move.
Consider this, the IAC has clearance issues in a Contique with a stock hood because it mounts ontop of the 3L UIM, let alone a SC'er. Look how low the UIM sits in the Escape engines bay.
3. A 3L front bank valve cover would also need to be used for the different oil cap location.
4. A 3L UIM (plastic or aluminum) would need to be used.
That's what I see right off the bat, I'm sure I'm overlooking something(s)......
Hood would look god awful. What about the new blower used with the ATX cougar kit?! This could be a nice option??!?!
IF they go into production, lower their price and are available for MTX's
Oh so it totally doesn't fit an MTX...interesting. I fig'd there is no way it couldn't fit.... 
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Actually no. It looks very similar to the contour!
I'm impressed with this information.
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No. The bolt pattern is the same, just the diameters is different. It would be the bolt patter that was important, the rest would just be spacing.
The hood issues have to be measured.
The Valve cover is an easy fix.
The manifold is an easy fix.
Mounting the charger and intercooler are the only issues and it looks like this method is VERY viable if the hood is changed out.
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hey mark, get me one and i will see if it works on my escape engine in the svt. 
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