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so let me get this straight madmerc,you honestly thnk that your friends '93 cobra with a built motor and procharger is only good for 13.1's  ,please step away from the crack pipe.....either you don't know what your talking about or your friend needs to sell his car to someone who can drive...fwiw a guy at a car show i was in this weekend had a 93 gt,stock block,just heads cam,intake,and a 9psi. powerdyne s/c and he runs 12.30's all day long... and please tell me since when an fbody can outhandle a cobra....you do realize that a cobra is built by svt,and has brake and suspension mods....i also seriously doubt an fbody could even outhandle a standard gt...like said before that's why you see tons of stangs and cobras at the autocross,and rarely see any fbodies... the reason fbodies are extinct now is because people would rather buy a stang for a little less money,and mod it to run circles around an fbody...like i said a great drivetrain will only get you so far when it is attached to a pos car...
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MadMerc, just out of curiosity, was your friend's 93 Cobra featured in any Mustang magazines? A buddy of mine just bought a 93 Cobra last year from a guy in Texas, actually traded his 86GT w/ built 347 for it. But back on topic, you've got to be kidding if you think that a 13.1 is all that car is good for. And I don't care how fat those Ecsta's are, they are JUNK tires! They make hockey pucks look soft! Put a set of MT's on there and he'll turn that into an 11.5 if he has a clue what he's doing. But honestly, the F-bodies have an awesome motor with an even better tranny, but that's about as far as it goes. And you don't know how close I was to picking up a 98 WS6 before I bought the SVT. Pewter with a Borla exhaust an 18" Y2K Vette wheels all around.. Mmmmmmmmm  Mark
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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
F-bodies have an awesome motor with an even better tranny, but that's about as far as it goes. Mark
that sort of reminds me of a friend who frequents diesel fourms. he bought a dodge with the cummins diesel. great engine surrounded by a junk truck.
i will agree, the ls series of motors are amazing motors. they have taken pushrod technology to new levels. heck the ls blocks are good for over 1000hp.
there is a guy named parish who lives in the midwest who took a 6.0L truck motor and swapped it into a regular cab shortbed 4x4 chevy. he was running 900 hp on the street with nothing more than arp bolts throughout for a few years. now he is running forged pistons and rods, with the arp stuff, stock heads and cam and is making 1100hp with stock all terrain tires at all 4 corners. the truck looks as stock as any other truck out on the streets until you here that t76 turbo spool up.
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I'm not entirely sure. It's VERY red and the inside is cherry. The engine was built by a man called Kutzlo(I don't think I spelled that right). I will agree that he wasn't pushing the car to the limits, but you have to take into account 1) he didn't want to kill the car 2) I was in the car with him 3) he didn't want to kill me. Yeah, it probably could have gone much faster with better tires, but its a street car, he's not gonna throw drag radials on it. Very quick car. He could dump the clutch and break the tires loose from 4th to 3rd. It's an awesome car. Now I'll finally concede to you guys, the Cobra may be more popular, but it has to have a blower to make any power. WEAK. The same goes for the stupid Ford GT. I do commend Ford on finally making a good NA engine in the Mach 1, Marauder, new stang(only 3 valves? why not the full 4?), but to be frank it took them long enough. Now I don't know about you guys, but I'd take a new Z06 over a Ford GT any day of the week. Suck on that. You guys can't even argue with that because ya'll KNOW it's faster, handles better and costs less. Anyway, I'll drop the stang vs F-body thing. Unless you wanna bring up 3rd gen vs Fox-body. Then its on!
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Now Chad is a 'buddy' of yours? :-P
Parrish's truck is bad ass, even if it is a Cheby.
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 Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Now I don't know about you guys, but I'd take a new Z06 over a Ford GT any day of the week. Suck on that. You guys can't even argue with that because ya'll KNOW it's faster, handles better and costs less. Anyway, I'll drop the stang vs F-body thing. Unless you wanna bring up 3rd gen vs Fox-body. Then its on!
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Look, I just think that Ford powered by Chevy is almost unbeatable. But that doesn't sit well with most people. So until Ford starts put ZZ4s in Mustangs, I will stick with GM or Mopar for performance. I don't want to stir up trouble, but I'm not gonna lie about something I know to be incorrect. I just don't like the Mustang to be honest with you. I don't fit in them. They don't like me. Now the Mustang II is a completely different story. I'd take a King Cobra any day of the week. Oh, did you guys forget about that little blemish? Wait was a V6 the top engine for most of that cars run? I already know you guys are gonna whine about that not even beeing fair. "How can you compare a V8 Camaro or Firebird to a V6 Mustang II? That's cheating.." That's Fords problem, not mine... Seriously though, I DO like a lot of Fords products, like the Crown Vic and the new Mercurys. I don't hate Ford, just the Mustang. Gawd I write a lot....
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My quote is in reference to your 'Stupid GT' comment and that it is slower, handles worse than the Z06 etc...
The Ford GT is probably the best car in its class, especially when you consider the 'bang for the buck.' PERIOD.
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Have you even looked at the price of the new Z06? its only 65K and beats the GT at everything. How is it not a bargain? It only ran the 2nd fastest time around Nurburgring EVER for a production vehicle, second only to the Carrera GT. Now with the money saved from not buying the Ford, I could buy a used Viper.
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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Now Chad is a 'buddy' of yours? :-P
Yep  Don't see him as often since I never go up to Hall's, but I hung out with him quite a bit over the summer. Went to the Ford parts swap with him this spring in Columbus, OH. Funny bastard he is!
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