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#1400238 10/02/05 08:30 PM
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If you are looking at a '99, make sure that the recall has been performed (this was a MAJOR black eye for SVT)

If you want to go fast for cheap, look into an LS1 F-body (Camaro or Firebird).

It will eat the lunch of the Cobra plus it can be had with the beefy T-56 6 speed manual, the same trans in the Dodge Viper.

If you want to spend a little more, say 20k, you can get an LS1 or LS6 in a GTO with the same 6 speed.

All the above cars are very fast with some F-bodies running high 12's with VERY minimal mods.

The only drawback is that the car surrounding the wonderful LS1 is a POS.

No fewer than 5 times I have decided that I am going to get an Fbody due to the performance. Every single time I walked away thinking what a terrible car. How can one vehicle have so many flaws in ergonomics and execution? HUGE outside yet cramped inside and more squeaks and rattles than a Day Care center.

I'd still take it over a Neon SRT4 though.

Good Luck!


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but you need to consider also that 15 000$ Canadian is about 12 000$ US


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Didn't notice the Quebec address

Although, a co-worker recently sold his 2000 model WS6 T/A for $12000, so it is still in the price ballpark.

His car was fast, but it had all the same drawbacks.

Love how GM decided to store the spare tire in the front passenger floorboard


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Originally posted by SVTCJ:
If you are looking at a '99, make sure that the recall has been performed (this was a MAJOR black eye for SVT)

If you want to go fast for cheap, look into an LS1 F-body (Camaro or Firebird).

It will eat the lunch of the Cobra plus it can be had with the beefy T-56 6 speed manual, the same trans in the Dodge Viper.

If you want to spend a little more, say 20k, you can get an LS1 or LS6 in a GTO with the same 6 speed.

All the above cars are very fast with some F-bodies running high 12's with VERY minimal mods.

The only drawback is that the car surrounding the wonderful LS1 is a POS.

No fewer than 5 times I have decided that I am going to get an Fbody due to the performance. Every single time I walked away thinking what a terrible car. How can one vehicle have so many flaws in ergonomics and execution? HUGE outside yet cramped inside and more squeaks and rattles than a Day Care center.

I'd still take it over a Neon SRT4 though.

Good Luck!


I do konw about the recall for the 99 SVT. What I like about the 99 and 01 SVT is the rear suspension, and the 51% front to 49% rear wt , so the handling shoud be pretty good, I am not crasy about F-bodies GMs, I know thay are pretty fast, but not for me.


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An extra 100 HP, 1 second less, and 10 mph more is definitely noticable.

Then there is that whole NOT driving the wrong wheels part!


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Lessee, for $12K you could get a fully restored 60's Nova SS and smoke the crap outta most of the road. I also like the F-Body Idea. The F-bodies always outclassed Mustangs. Another idea would be an older Corvette. you can usually get older C5s for around that price, or if you are lucky, a nice ZR-1 C4. I recently saw a '90 model for $11k. I personally would take a vette or a bird over a stang anyday. Oh and I don't know what you are talking about with the F-bodies. The ergonomics in them are not a problem with me, and I've worked on and rode in many. I regularly drive with my friend in his '92 Firebird drop top, and I have no problems whatsoever. Even head room and legroom with the top up aren't an issue, and I'm '6"3! Try out the interior yourself before drawing your conclusions.


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I will never have a daily driver that gets less than 25 mpg. A cobra would be an awesome car to have, but only on the weekends,


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Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Lessee, for $12K you could get a fully restored 60's Nova SS and smoke the crap outta most of the road. I also like the F-Body Idea. The F-bodies always outclassed Mustangs. Another idea would be an older Corvette. you can usually get older C5s for around that price, or if you are lucky, a nice ZR-1 C4. I recently saw a '90 model for $11k. I personally would take a vette or a bird over a stang anyday. Oh and I don't know what you are talking about with the F-bodies. The ergonomics in them are not a problem with me, and I've worked on and rode in many. I regularly drive with my friend in his '92 Firebird drop top, and I have no problems whatsoever. Even head room and legroom with the top up aren't an issue, and I'm '6"3! Try out the interior yourself before drawing your conclusions.




Somebody give this guy a cluepon!! C5's going for $12-15k? ZR-1 Vette's aren't going for that cheap without a million miles. Comparing a 92 firebird convertable to an LS1 camaro/firebird? And by SVTCJ's response, it looks to me like he HAS driven quite a few of them to draw the conclusion about the ergonomics of the car. I'll agree, they aren't comfy at all inside. I'm 6'1" and I can't find a comfortable position for my legs in them.

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Yeah, the only way you are going to find a C5 for less than 15,000 US is if it beat to crap, wrecked, or you know the person, etc. My dad bought one for a guy (1999, 20k miles)and I personally hated the car, but it could just be a preference thing. I hated how the car sat and I how I sat in it, I couldn't see and didn't feel in control. Also, the front end seemed very unstable at high speeds, much less than my contour Sounded like crap too, AND it had borla exhaust on it. Eh, maybe I just don't like GM


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Lessee, for $12K you could get a fully restored 60's Nova SS and smoke the crap outta most of the road.

Chevy's were never all that fast to begin with.
It was pretty damn rare that there was one around that could take a Ford.

The Ford 390's were so bad that most Chevy owners wouldn't even try.

427 for 427 Ford vs Chevy was no competition either.
Fords were consistantly faster off the line, top end, RPM's, Horsepower, Torque you name it.

You'd be laughed at if you showed up with an SS Nova.
It wans't even a very attractive car either.

There were a few Camaros that had some zip..like the original Z28 was a nice car but still wasn't any competition for the Boss 302.

Then you had the 440's and 426's from Chrysler.
Holy crap...talk about Raw Power right out of the box.

Unfortunately they were draging around Great Big Boxy 4,000 pound vehicles until the end of the era with the Cuda's and Challengers...they were something to behold.

A 440 6 pack 'Cuda or a Hemi Challenger...Oh My God were they Factory Speed Demons...Just Amazing...
Most of the old Real Musclecars can't be bought for under $50,000.00 nowadays unless they need total rebuilds.




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