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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Guess what? If you're making 200hp whether it be turbo, supercharger, or carbs, you'll have to upgrade the injectors.
i didnt know carbs required bigger injectors to run  
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Hahaaha. Crap. I'm tired. As carlos mencia would say "dee dee dee".
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96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve)
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Ok. That's enough arguing from me today. But I do wanna know if a Non-electronic, carb-ed Zetec is possible...
J.T.
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Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Ok. That's enough arguing from me today. But I do wanna know if a Non-electronic, carb-ed Zetec is possible...
Anything is possible.
Hector
2003 Rally Red Mitsubishi Evolution VIII
257HP/259TQ
2005 Lapis Blue Mazda 6s
RET: 00 Cabernet Red Ford Contour Zetec ATX SUPERCHARGED
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Originally posted by LocoSCZ:
Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Ok. That's enough arguing from me today. But I do wanna know if a Non-electronic, carb-ed Zetec is possible...
Anything is po$$ible.
Fixed.
Must be that jumbly-wumbly thing happening again.
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Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Ok. That's enough arguing from me today. But I do wanna know if a Non-electronic, carb-ed Zetec is possible...
There is a carb kit made by Weber-Alpha for the Zetec.
It uses 4 small carbs and a (very) short runner intake manifold.
(see picture here.)
Problem is, the Contour does not have enough room between the engine and the firewall to run it.
The kit shows up on Ebay every once in awhile for $500 to $700.
Add a stand-alone ECU, dyno tuning, and some custom fabricating (support and mounting brackets) and your ready to go.
And what do you know, here's a cheap stand-alone ECU.
Dyno and custom fabricating cost will vary, although it shoudln't cost more than say an s/c install & tune.
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Sweet...Could probably just cut through the firewall into the Panel intake. The only problem would be water though. hmmmmm.
J.T.
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Look, CARBURATORS DO NOT REQUIRE A ECU TO OPERATE(for the fuel control)!!! The megasquirt IS NOT going to help in this situation since it controls ONLY FUEL INJECTORS!!! I believe we already went over this with Kermit's response earlier. All you would need is a dedicated ignition computer that can pick up a signal from the crank trigger. The carbs ARE VERY INEXPENSIVE and very easy to install. Think of all the saved weight by pulling out all of the ecu, wiring, intake, injectors, throttlebody and anything to do with emissions or the stock ECU. Sure you might have to play with the carb's a little on colder days, but they are an EXTREMELY simple way to make power. You could use one of these for ignition control - http://www.racetep.com/hpx.htm . Essentially your tossing the stock ECU out the window. If the carbs are about $180 a piece - figure $900 - 1000 for the ignition computer and your still around $1500 for all new stuff. Now if you found some second hand parts you could probably save big. I know there would be some 'extras' That will be needed along the way, but that is a given for just about any sort of major mod to a engine. With this approach you single handedly dropped your engine management and your fuel worries out of the picture. Not to mention, made life under the hood VERY easy to deal with. A setup like this would make for a Hella-nitrous car. 
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Thank You. Finally someone who understands the reasoning for my arguing.
J.T.
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The Weber-Alpha carb setup for the Zetec uses fuel injectors. (It also requires the use of a tps sensor.)
An ECU of some sort is still required for ignition timing, fuel control, as well as other sensors on the car (should you choose to keep them).
The carb kits (which are more or less TBs) basicly replace the Single Throttle Body setup with an Individual Throttle Body On Runner setup.
It is a very good way to bring the power in the car up.
A decent setup should bring the Zetec close to 200BHP.
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