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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Don't you have a chip? If so, why didn't you have the shift points changed?
Originally posted by LocoSCZ:
Whenever I race I HAVE TO manually shift my car. Car by itself shifts at 6k........with me shifting it will go above 7k. Been doing it for years. 
CAN'T and I mean CAN'T change the shift points. I have had 2 different custom chips and the car ALWAYS shift at the same point.
Yes I have a chip.  But like I said I can take it over the speed limiter and rev to 7500 rpms.
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So they've removed the rev limiter and the speed limiter, but can't change the shift points? Interesting... Originally posted by LocoSCZ:
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Don't you have a chip? If so, why didn't you have the shift points changed?
Originally posted by LocoSCZ:
Whenever I race I HAVE TO manually shift my car. Car by itself shifts at 6k........with me shifting it will go above 7k. Been doing it for years.
CAN'T and I mean CAN'T change the shift points. I have had 2 different custom chips and the car ALWAYS shift at the same point.
Yes I have a chip. But like I said I can take it over the speed limiter and rev to 7500 rpms.
Ryan
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Originally posted by LocoSCZ:
I have had 2 different custom chips and the car ALWAYS shifts at the same point.
Now all you need to do is get an mtx 
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best times in the atx were brake torquing, and put it in drive with overdrive OFF
ive tried every possible way and thats the best
keep in mind i had a high stall convertor, sonnax valves and a shiftkit in the tranny
i do have TONS of timeslips when i still had the original atx and the 2.5L that prove that theory also
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I did test out the manual shifting theory on back to back runs in the spring. I rean .4 seconds faster manually shifting than leaving the car in D with the o/d off.
Hector
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The V6 was carrying extra weight. It had an extra "H" in the trunk.  Actually a light Zetec MTX will run with a heavy Duratec ATX.
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My V6 ATX ran a 16.4 @ 85mph... Any MTX Zetec guys (or gals ) Care to share their best stock times?? Russell is right, O/D off and "brake torquing" is the way to go... I've also got a ton of timeslips to prove that as well. When my tranny dies, I plan on doing a 5-spd. swap so that should be interesting, and of course, i'll run it still!
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Unless your running out of gearing in 3rd (D) at the end of the 1/4 turning O/D off does NOTHING! Originally posted by Russell-3L:
..drive with overdrive OFF
I still don't understand the point of raising a redline if they can't raise the shift points either in an ATX equipped vehicle, which one can understand if your still making good power above the factory redline why 'shifting' you ATX manually helps you. HOwever, I still believe a VB and a appropriately tuned (i.e. raised shift points) chip would net you better times.
Originally posted by LocoSCZ:
I did test out the manual shifting theory on back to back runs in the spring. I rean .4 seconds faster manually shifting than leaving the car in D with the o/d off.
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Turning O/D off makes the computer switch to a Sport/Towing mode in which the transmission shifts quicker, like a chip would do. It causes the car to shift quicker and maybe a little "harder" but it does improve times. I do have time slips with similar 60' times and temps that show better times with o/d off... From what i've heard, the contour isn't the only Ford car/vehicle that does this with o/d turned off... 
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My chip takes the shifts all the way to stock redline (~6750). Without the chip, it shifts around 6k or a bit less.
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