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My dad's 2000 Explorer XLT is about to hit 170K miles. He has done no drivetrain work or any mechanical work besides a clogged IAC. The Taurus is upto 110K miles and the Contour is upto 56K. None have had any major mechanical work. The Taurus had a leaky coolant tank and the heater does not work very well, but the drivetrains are great.
Honestly, a Civic hybrid is a waste of money. Buy a regular Civic. Honda's hybrid system is much more wasterful than Toyota's. But I think 32 MPG is very impressive for my V-6 automatic, don't you? Considering I paid only $6K for a car with 38,000 miles allowed me to set aside a lot of money for repairs, none of which I have had to do anyway. Do you think I made a bad decision?
If you really want something, go find a late model 626 4-cylinder with a 5-speed. Just got one not too ago for my girlfriend and it's a great car. It has 131K miles and it drives like it's nearly brand new.
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Very true... ANY car will last if you take care of it (generally). Which is why i'm still in my CSVT  . Ditto on Toyota though... they need a "real" sports car again.
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my worst car experience was my 89 mitsubishi colt who were taking more oil than petrol near the end of her life, 1liter every 400km, the last week i was driving it i lost the driving side door on a parking lots... that was ambarassing to drive home after 
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Originally posted by SVT3Rivieres:
my worst car experience was my 89 mitsubishi colt who were taking more oil than petrol near the end of her life, 1liter every 400km, the last week i was driving it i lost the driving side door on a parking lots... that was ambarassing to drive home after
Is that why you bought your CSVT?
Heh.. My old 1987 Dodge Omni dropped a right-rear door just when I was securing my older son in his child seat.. I had to replace the hinge's pin with a 6-in nail so I could drive the car again (but no kids in it until it went to the scrapyard!)
And I thought I had it bad with my 93 Tercel! I had to put a liter of oil every week (4-500 km) starting at 100,000 km. At the same time I had a 1991 Hyundai Excel that took the same amount of oil, but it had 323,000 km!
At 223,000 km the Tercel decided that a little oil in the radiator and a little coolant in the oil pan was a good idea, but I differed..
I just wish I could've taken a sledgehammer to that Toyota - which is the reason I won't buy another one. I'll buy Fords instead!   
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When my sister was dating the guy who's now her husband, they were on a narrow road and ended up going off the edge and 60 ft down a extremely steep bank into a creek.
$200 later the car was fine. Ti-rod bent or something was the only damage. That was a toyota tercel, pretty sturdy!
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Originally posted by Matty K:
Yes, Wooden, but those are all non-drivetrain issues.
Much as I love my CSVT, I would definately buy a Honda (if they weren't all so ugly now). We had a lowered one come into the shop once... this girl had knocked her drain plug loose, and the car had practically no oil in it. Damn thing still ran.
'Course, I still think Toyota is the master of bullet-proof engine building. After all, they retail to senior citizens (not always the best at maintainence) and people like my mom (DEFINATELY not the best at maintainence). Plus, there's a reason that damn 2J Supra engine is so popular.
I also agree about the toyota engines. Car and Driver put toyota in the top 5 for best engines in the world, I think they were number 2 or 3.. I remember they were one space behind BMW. Around here you almost NEVER see a toyota for sale with less then 100K miles. People just dont ever want to get rid of them.
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Originally posted by MAYBE aliasfriend:
Originally posted by Matty K:
Yes, Wooden, but those are all non-drivetrain issues.
Much as I love my CSVT, I would definately buy a Honda (if they weren't all so ugly now). We had a lowered one come into the shop once... this girl had knocked her drain plug loose, and the car had practically no oil in it. Damn thing still ran.
'Course, I still think Toyota is the master of bullet-proof engine building. After all, they retail to senior citizens (not always the best at maintainence) and people like my mom (DEFINATELY not the best at maintainence). Plus, there's a reason that damn 2J Supra engine is so popular.
I also agree about the toyota engines. Car and Driver put toyota in the top 5 for best engines in the world, I think they were number 2 or 3.. I remember they were one space behind BMW. Around here you almost NEVER see a toyota for sale with less then 100K miles. People just dont ever want to get rid of them.
Well, maybe we had a lemon... But a close friend of ours had his 1992 Tercel die on him - it drank all its oil between Quebec City and Montreal and seized on HWY 40... it had less than 100,000 km, and was maintained properly too.
It's almost a running joke here, if you're following a Tercel (1991-1994), you are in a cloud of blue smoke almost every time. The last generation was much better.
But that was our Tercels. I had 3 Corollas in my life (1976 and 1977 sedans, 1980 Wagon), and all had bulletproof engines - I know, I really did try to blow them up! :-) But the last Toyota I bought left me with a very bad aftertaste... and since I had the "lowly" Tercel, the stealer didn't really want to try to correct the many problems I had with it. Oh well, his lost!
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I briefly had a 1987 Toyota Corolla FX16 handed over to me from my father's coworker in exchange for a measly $200. 8 gallons of gas and that sucker would go over 300 miles. It shook, rattled, had a hole in the muffler so it was extremely loud, and AC wasn't even an option back then. The crank window on the driver side would sometimes fall off track and the wheels were "massive" 13s. Didn't even know that it had one quart of oil in it when I got it but it was running fine. The hatch would pop open in the middle of pulling into my driveway for no particular reason and girls wouldn't come anywhere near it. Even Roger's Compound would have trouble shining it up with the condition the paint was in. But man, that damn car had the most awesome sound system a friend of mine and I installed. And geez, I could sing it at 7000 RPM all day long while traversing the backwoods on a bumpy dirt trail at 50 MPH and even with over 225,000 miles it WOULD NOT die. Toyotas of yore were some serious troopers of their time.  -SAV
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I'm not in 100% agreement with the Toyota engines. I've seen multiple of these newer Celica GTS engines blow up from "mis-shifting." How is that bullet proof? Their other models may be terrific for all I know. Greg
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A cousin of mine had a Geo Prism - same as the Corolla of that day. Ugly, slow little bugger but it was the most reliable thing I'd ever seen for its age.
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