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hahaha Sleeper what nitrous setup do you have and do you like it?
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Originally posted by LocoSCZ:
Originally posted by ButtonPuncher:
I was just looking through eBay and it seems that a Mercedes M62 supercharger has an electric clutch. Can you swap the nose drive between a M45 and a M62?
[url=Check it out.[/url]
Just a thought. For the true "Mad Max" style supercharger. Flip a switch and hang on. 
BP
Why would you turn it off? 
Exactly. Not to mention that with a supercharger like Hectors, or the one posted, the engine will not be able to pull air through the vanes and run at all. The vanes seal completely inside the supercharger, allowing it to make the kind of boost that its capable of. No leaks. If you look closely in the link BP posted, you can see vanes mesh 100%. If its not turning, there is NO airflow.
You might be able to build some kind of bypass for the engine to pull in air when the blower is not turning, but I really dont think its worth the effort.
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Originally posted by zeteckit19's:
hahaha Sleeper what nitrous setup do you have and do you like it?
Zex universall kit #82011 and I like it alot.
The big seller was the bottle pressure monitor and the fact t uses the TPS voltage to trigger the nitrous injection.
Of course the brand isnt as important as how you run it.
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Not necessarily (I can't spell). The more boost you push doesn't not equate (typically) to HP increase. With More boost = more s/c rpms = more heat. Unless you have a way to maintain the air intake temps at a reasonable level the boost will eventually loose it's effectiveness and other this may happen. for example...in the Lightning world, comparing a 4# lower pulley and a 6# lower pulley, you gain more torque, but the HP gain just isn't there. Why? Because of the heat created from spinning the blower so friggin fast in the upper RPMs...... Bottom line is, you can't just go shoving an ungodly amount of boost down X engine and expect Xsquared results. It's a system and the right pieces need to be in place... Originally posted by ButtonPuncher:
If you double the pressure, you double the power.
HTH,
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Originally posted by zeteckit19's:
Originally posted by LocoSCZ:
Originally posted by SleeperZ:
Ahhh, actual math, you are evil....
Only hypotheticals and ricer guesstimates are allowed here....
You must be banished!
Yeah and here I am posting real world results! 
Hector ... before the supercharger, what was your best mod that you felt best gains or difference in performance??
Header.
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Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Bottom line is, you can't just go shoving an ungodly amount of boost down X engine and expect Xsquared results. It's a system and the right pieces need to be in place...
If you had completely read my previous posts, you would have noticed that I already stated those facts. See...
Originally posted by ButtonPuncher:
Heat is a big problem with the M45. It is soo small that when you start increasing the boost it REALLY heats up the air.
Originally posted by ButtonPuncher:
In a perfect world... If you have a crappy intercooler, or don't have it tuned properly, that value drops.
BTW, how to spell.
BP
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lol why you poking your nose in here ryan?
oops i guess that goes for me too
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weegee have you seen the guy on turbosport.co.uk who has put a mini cooper supercharger M45 on a vauxhall 2.0XE engine in a mk1 escort. he chopped the existing inlet manifold to stick it on, and even put an intercooler setup on it.
if you done the JRSC you wouldnt need the black box if you got an aftermarket chip, even if you wanted to you couldnt use it cos it will only work on the US focuses.
you will need an aftermarket chip (such as unichip), bigger injectors, and maybe recalibrated maf. the bigger the throttle body the better it will work.
if your gonna run decent boost you will need better engine bay ventilation, and ideally a bigger rad (try from a mondeo V6)
i done a track session the other day and engine bay temps were sky high. i'm on about 7PSI, and now realise i need water injection for future track sessions, cos mine has no intercooler.
also your best off running it on super unleaded.
one of the biggest headaches will be sorting out where all the vacuum pipes go around the inlet manifold etc. i heard that the rover inlet manifold might be a good starting point for putting a mini M45 on a zetec.
i've done a FMIC on my other mondy if you want any ideas for where to mount the IC.
oh and as for �£300 for a supercharger and nitrous on a zetec in the UK, very best of luck but i doubt thats gonna happen!
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