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#1363762 08/18/05 03:03 AM
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Needs pads for my escort. I'm setting it up for sts class in autox, but it of course will also see street use, though not really a DD (drive the contour more often). So it's between
Hawk pads or Axxis. I know hawk is good, but what about axxis? Axxis is cheaper, so if they're good, I'd like to go that route.
If hawk, should I get the HP or the HP plus (autox) pads? With the HP plus last an "ok" amount of time on the street?
Or anyother suggestions for pads for the escort?
Thanks very much.


98.5 SVT 91 Escort GT (almost sold) 96 ATX Zetec (i brake to watch you swerve) FS: SVT rear sway bar WTB: Very cheap beater CEG Dragon Run - October 13-15
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Hawk are good, but I hear good things about Greenstuff too. However, Bendix will probably lock up the wheels for you fade-free, so you might want to give them a shot. Auto-x isn't too demanding on the brakes: just keep them flushed and you'll probably be limited by tire traction all the time.


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Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
I hear good things about Greenstuff too.



Their history on this site is chequered, at best.

Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Auto-x isn't too demanding on the brakes: just keep them flushed and you'll probably be limited by tire traction all the time.



Want to know my problem with you Auto-xFil? You take your experiences and claim them as gospel. All too often you're spouting all kinds of misinformation and unfortunately it is taken as gospel by the great(er) unwashed masses.


*SOME* auto-x are not hard on brakes but *MANY* will heat up pads so much that fading is a HUGE issue at the end of the run.


-- 1999 SVT #220 -- In retrospect, it was all downhill from here. RIP, CEG.
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Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
However, Bendix will probably lock up the wheels for you fade-free, so you might want to give them a shot. Auto-x isn't too demanding on the brakes: just keep them flushed and you'll probably be limited by tire traction all the time.




I thought I was pretty clear about my recommendation of street pads as just a possibilty. On stock brakes, on a brake-heavy course, he might need different pads. But without knowing his setup all I can say is that good street pads might work for him. Bendix should not fade even on a course with a lot of braking unless the car has tiny rotors or is a real pig, but of course Hawk HP+ would be better: they are a great autocross pad But like he said, he knew that. I don't know anything about Axxis, so I didn't say anything about them.


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Well I'm still just wondering if the HP plus will last an OK amount of time on the street. Also still looking for input on the axxis ultimate if anyone has any input on them. Thanks.


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