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#1342351 07/24/05 02:45 AM
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Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
cool..timeslips?



Video proof.

14.6 @ only 92mph... Something's very fishy...

Only 17mph on the top end???


Looks very RWD V8 to me...


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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
cool..timeslips?



Video proof.

14.6 @ only 92mph... Something's very fishy...

Only 17mph on the top end???


Looks very RWD V8 to me...



im not trying to start anything demon, because I definately know you know more than I do here, but lately every timeslip posted has been met with a lot of distrust and B.S calls... just thought that was odd.


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I had a guy in a cougar tell me his atx duratec ran a 15.4

Tonight at the track I watched him run an 18.4

I asked him later what he ran...and he told me 15.8


BS is everywhere and it drives me insane.


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#1342354 07/24/05 06:11 AM
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Wayne is a good guy from what I hear.


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Originally posted by DopePope:
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
cool..timeslips?



Video proof.

14.6 @ only 92mph... Something's very fishy...

Only 17mph on the top end???


Looks very RWD V8 to me...



im not trying to start anything demon, because I definately know you know more than I do here, but lately every timeslip posted has been met with a lot of distrust and B.S calls... just thought that was odd.



Maybe because some of us on this board have seen many years of time slips from cars in verious stages of modification and at varying tracks around the country so we can spot BS much quicker then others.

I stick by my original post. (or posts as it relates to him)

It looks VERY V8 RWD. Good traction, torque driven 1/8th, with very slow top end speed increase. Time slips don't lie and by the splits that's definitely not a FWD time slip. There's at least 5 years worth to compare it against on this site.


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I too was wondering what was up with the trap speed. With a very similar 60' time(in the 2.2's), I trapped 97mph on my 14.6 run. Granted, I trapped 96 on my 14.4 run, but that was also with a 2.13 60'.

I can believe the 2.2X 60', I really don't think that's even questionable. To be honest, I'm pissed if Im not cutting 2.25 or better. But like Greg stated, it appears to be a slip from a V8 with not a lot of top end. Then again, really missing a shift could have killed you, but that'd mean you'd be in the 14.3-14.4 range on a good run.

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although I don't disagree, my turd with it's only time to the track so far went 14.7 @ 94 and I thought that was an odd time....

Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by beyondloadedSE:
cool..timeslips?



Video proof.

14.6 @ only 92mph... Something's very fishy...

Only 17mph on the top end???


Looks very RWD V8 to me...




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Real Nice. I like how your last timeslip you tagged a 2.19 60'

If you'd done that on your last run you'd have knocked a bit more off your ET.
Good job, I gave you a good rating.


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Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
I too was wondering what was up with the trap speed. With a very similar 60' time(in the 2.2's), I trapped 97mph on my 14.6 run. Granted, I trapped 96 on my 14.4 run, but that was also with a 2.13 60'.

I can believe the 2.2X 60', I really don't think that's even questionable. To be honest, I'm pissed if Im not cutting 2.25 or better. But like Greg stated, it appears to be a slip from a V8 with not a lot of top end. Then again, really missing a shift could have killed you, but that'd mean you'd be in the 14.3-14.4 range on a good run.

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Okay, this is getting very cut throat and I'm not sure it is justified.

His first slip shows a 2.169 60' with a 9.58ET at 73.78mph
His second slip shows a 2.205 60' with a 9.43ET at 75.7mph


By comparison I have a few slips of my 3L. Bear in mind I was running a much heavier car with 150 pounds extra stereo gear minimum.

Here is something to chew on:
60' 1/8ET MPH 1/4ET MPH
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2.565 10.01/75.7mph 15.22/94.63mph
2.491 9.94/75.5mph 15.17/94.85mph
2.389 9.82/74.9mph 15.01/95.68mph
2.382 9.75/76.2mph 14.96/95.46mph
2.380 9.76/75.5mph 14.98/95.11mph
2.377 9.84/75.9mph 15.04/94.51mph
2.332 9.68/76.2mph 14.86/95.96mph


This was my first "real" night of drag racing where I was learning how to launch, shift, and just drive. I had a 3L in this car with all that extra weight and full tank of gas.

They are all from the same night though not necessarily in sequential order. The last 4 I switched in decending 60' times for purposes of this discussion. Anyway, I got progressively better through the night even though the car was good and hot by then.
The general trend was as the 60' went down the ET's went down, the MPH increased. There were some exceptions.
Notice the MPH was less on the two runs where it changed. The 2.380 60' and the 2.382 60' gave almost the same 1/8ET but the MPH dropped by 0.7mph The 1/4 ET was up by .02 and the 1/4MPH was down by 0.6mph. So what caused the variation? Am I lying? Was it shifting, a headwind?
The point is that on the same night I was able to drop .5 seconds off my 1/8th ET and only have a small increase in MPH because of it.
To put it another way, I was running a 75.5 1/8mph with a 9.7ET, however, I ran two 10s ET's with a 75mph trapp. I was also carrying more weight but I had more Horsepower so my trapps should have been higher and my 60's and ETs should have been higher because of the increase in weight on about the same amount of traction.

I'm saying that it could very well be the guy has a pretty fat midrange torque curve, good tires and knows how to launch. That 2.2 60' is enough to garner 14.x runs in the 1/4 without having a high trapp.
Then there is the track issues. Does the track have any slope? Is there a stadium blocking wind and after the 1/8th mile the car is exposed to the wind? Was there wind?

Too many variables to just throw the BS flag when the numbers are a little off. I don't know about you guys, but I'll give most people the benefit of the doubt in a case like this. If they are full of BS then it will soon show and then there is time enough to pick them apart. In the meantime all it does is make bad feelings. I know I'm not about to start being a "Hater" over it.

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#1342360 07/24/05 07:15 PM
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I can't say I was throwing up the BS flag. I was only pointing out that from my experience, my mph was quite a bit higher on the same ET w/ very similar 60' times. Again, I pointed out what I thought could have been the contributing factor to his lower mph, with a "possible" mis-shift after the 1/8th. Who knows, there are too many variables that go into it, just like you noted. Hell, their clocks may be off a couple mph, as it was proven by another member here that was showing a 9.1 in the 1/8th with a 2.5 60'.

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