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Class Shakeup! #1319164 06/27/05 03:29 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,140 Pennsylvania A Auto-X Fil OP Hard-core CEG\'er
OP Auto-X Fil Hard-core CEG\'er A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,140 Pennsylvania	Wow! http://scca.com/_FileLibrary/File/05-08-fastrack.pdf significant changes: euro sports sedans from AS to FS, along with Camaro SS/Firebird WS6. Mazdaspeed Miata from BS to CS. G35 from BS to FS. Soem germal cars from BS to DS. Celica GTS/MS Protoge/VR6 from DS to GS, RSX/TSX/Civic Si/Tiburon/Vibe/Satuns/Matrix/Mazda 3/Probe/Mx-6/200SX/Celicas from GS to HS! Some AS-SS stuff too: GT3 and C6 Z06 may be banned, IIRC. This should give the Cooper/Cooper S some real competition! And from what I've seen, the 05 Legacy GT is still in HS... hmmm. Also, ST treadwear from 140-180. I don't know of any tires in that range, so no biggie. I wrote an e-mail recommending the SE/SVT drop from GS to HS with all those other cars. Anyone who cares might do the same. -Philip Maynard '95 Contour [71 STS \| Track Whore] '97 Miata [71 ES \| Boulevard Pimp] 2006 autocross results

Re: Class Shakeup! #1319165 06/27/05 04:39 PM
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,100 VA M moxnix_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er
moxnix_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er M Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,100 VA	Originally posted by Auto-X Fil: And from what I've seen, the 05 Legacy GT is still in HS... hmmm. Also, ST treadwear from 140-180. I don't know of any tires in that range, so no biggie. I wrote an e-mail recommending the SE/SVT drop from GS to HS with all those other cars. Anyone who cares might do the same. New Legacy GT is not and has never been in HS. ST 140 -> 180 - kills a whole range of potenza tires that come stock on most WRX/STI and the MSP. Not as good as other ST tires but for somebody with a mostly stock car with a few simple mods like springs it could mean the difference between running ST and having to run with the SP classes. Beaten - 2003 MazdaSpeed Protege 29K <- broken hearted Daily/Weekend Beater - 1990 miata 138K - AutoX every weekend = Adult driven on weekends

Re: Class Shakeup! #1319166 06/27/05 05:01 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,140 Pennsylvania A Auto-X Fil OP Hard-core CEG\'er
OP Auto-X Fil Hard-core CEG\'er A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,140 Pennsylvania	Ah, that makes sense. So it's a ratings thing then: the 180+ Azenis Sport 6/215 and Ventus Z212 are really stickier? and when did the '05 Legacy get classed? My '05 rules don't have a listing for it, so where is it? -Philip Maynard '95 Contour [71 STS \| Track Whore] '97 Miata [71 ES \| Boulevard Pimp] 2006 autocross results

Re: Class Shakeup! #1319167 06/27/05 05:36 PM
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,100 VA M moxnix_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er
moxnix_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er M Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,100 VA	Ratings are made by the maker of the tire. They are not consistent between different makers. A 200 from one maker could be a 300 from a differnt maker. are the RE040 (140 rated) on the MSP a nice grippy tire that is not going to last that long? yes they are but they are not as grippy as something like the MX or the RT215/RT615 (or even maybe the fuzions that you have) Legacy GT - March Fastrack - In DS http://www.scca.com/_Filelibrary/File/05-03-fastrack.pdf It was not eligable to compete last year as a new model. Also all the changes are just out for member comment and may or may not actaully happen at this point. I am hoping for the MSP -> GS to happen That would put me directly against the top driver in my area if he sticks with the 05 Mini next year and I ran the MSP. Beaten - 2003 MazdaSpeed Protege 29K <- broken hearted Daily/Weekend Beater - 1990 miata 138K - AutoX every weekend = Adult driven on weekends

Re: Class Shakeup! #1319168 06/27/05 05:56 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,140 Pennsylvania A Auto-X Fil OP Hard-core CEG\'er
OP Auto-X Fil Hard-core CEG\'er A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,140 Pennsylvania	Originally posted by moxnix: Ratings are made by the maker of the tire. They are not consistent between different makers. A 200 from one maker could be a 300 from a differnt maker. Yeah, I know that. Quote: Legacy GT - March Fastrack - In DS makes sense. Quote: I am hoping for the MSP -> GS to happen That would put me directly against the top driver in my area if he sticks with the 05 Mini next year and I ran the MSP. Don't these things usually happen? I haven't been around long enough to see. I'd think that one would go through. Care to take the time to write a letter about your days racing the 'tour, and note it fits well in HS now? -Philip Maynard '95 Contour [71 STS \| Track Whore] '97 Miata [71 ES \| Boulevard Pimp] 2006 autocross results

Re: Class Shakeup! #1319169 06/27/05 06:30 PM
Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,100 VA M moxnix_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er
moxnix_dup1 Hard-core CEG\'er M Joined: Jul 2000 Posts: 2,100 VA	Originally posted by Auto-X Fil: Don't these things usually happen? I haven't been around long enough to see. I'd think that one would go through. Care to take the time to write a letter about your days racing the 'tour, and note it fits well in HS now? Dont know the last big shakeup was 02 and I was not even racing then. I never raced the tour in stock class (damn short shifter) and I dont think it fits the class profile of the old HS. I need to look at the cars that might be going to HS closer to see if I think it fits in that group. Beaten - 2003 MazdaSpeed Protege 29K <- broken hearted Daily/Weekend Beater - 1990 miata 138K - AutoX every weekend = Adult driven on weekends

Re: Class Shakeup! #1319170 06/27/05 08:23 PM
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 3,867 Wichita, KS R RogerB_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
RogerB_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er R Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 3,867 Wichita, KS	Originally posted by moxnix: I never raced the tour in stock class (damn short shifter) and I dont think it fits the class profile of the old HS. I need to look at the cars that might be going to HS closer to see if I think it fits in that group. All Ford Probes (incl the V-6 GT) move to HS, according to the Fastrack. Contour is not mentioned. Guess our cars are better than we thought. Good thing I don't do stock class. Function before fashion. '96 Contour SE "Toss the Contour into a corner, and it's as easy to catch as a softball thrown by a preschooler." -Edmunds, 1998

Re: Class Shakeup! #1319171 06/27/05 08:26 PM
Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,140 Pennsylvania A Auto-X Fil OP Hard-core CEG\'er
OP Auto-X Fil Hard-core CEG\'er A Joined: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,140 Pennsylvania	What class do you race? STS/STX? -Philip Maynard '95 Contour [71 STS \| Track Whore] '97 Miata [71 ES \| Boulevard Pimp] 2006 autocross results

Re: Class Shakeup! #1319172 06/27/05 09:07 PM
Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 3,867 Wichita, KS R RogerB_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er
RogerB_dup1 Hard-core CEG'er R Joined: Oct 2000 Posts: 3,867 Wichita, KS	Before I even started, I had an aftermarket intake, so, yes STS, in the rare moments when I actually have time to do it. Function before fashion. '96 Contour SE "Toss the Contour into a corner, and it's as easy to catch as a softball thrown by a preschooler." -Edmunds, 1998

Re: Class Shakeup! #1319173 06/27/05 09:10 PM
Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 751 Morrisville, NC W weargle Veteran CEG\'er
weargle Veteran CEG\'er W Joined: Mar 2003 Posts: 751 Morrisville, NC	STS is the place to be. CSVTs have basically zero camber adjustment, on top of being heavy pigs, so they'll eat tires in GS. Whirling dervish of FFOG.

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