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I would like to add that I ordered mine from http://www.customcougar.com and they were on backorder for awhile. They might have been re-designing them again, and if not I'm aloowed to dream arent I?


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Originally posted by baggsend:
hi, Im still a little confused from the emails. My csvt is the early 2 bolt flange type. So are you guys telling me I can bolt to the 3 bolt flange on the new weapon r headers im getting? If I cant how do I do it?




OK the y-pipe like i posted earlier is a 3 bolt flange that connects to the cat. Now 2000 contours and some automatic contours have the 3 bolt, since you don't have either one of those years or transmission u have a 2 bolt style. SO you will need to get a 2 bolt flange take the y-pipe to and exhaust shop have them cut the 3-bolt off andweld you on a 2 bolt, problem solved.

Now the only problem is making the egr connect to the header itself. Now i am hoping with stazi doing an install on this car, hopefully he will come up with a better connection than i thought of in my last post.

Which is get a longer conection by welding a longer tube and a new compression fitting, or just get 2 fittings and mate them togehter creating a longer egr??


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Originally posted by baggsend:
hi, Im still a little confused from the emails. My csvt is the early 2 bolt flange type. So are you guys telling me I can bolt to the 3 bolt flange on the new weapon r headers im getting? If I cant how do I do it?




If you have the 2 bolt flange just before the main cat, your best bet is to optimize your stock Y, hands down. If you really feel the need, you can get a new flange welded onto the WR Y & add a rear bank O2 bung, but if you're gonna have to mod anyway, spend the money where you'll get the most benefit - Modded stock Y.


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I guess I'm alittle confused too. From what I've read here and numerous other posts, weapon r's don't seem to be the right (preferred) choice. My MSDS's are going on tomorrow so personally I don't care but I'm wondering about this apparent change of heart.


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If these are revised versions with thicker stainless, I might have to change over to them *IF* my ceramic coated MSDS's ever fail.

I will be putting them through a good test, and for the price the Weapon R headers are...I'm not too worried about cooking them after all.


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MSDS is DEFINATELY a better choice. Fitment, warranty, gaskets, MILs, & hardware are just a few things that you don't get with WRs. WRs are a viable choice for those on a budget, but if you have a few extra $, the MSDS are gonna save you some headaches & heartbreak. Well worth it if a header ever cracks, or just to avoid having to deal with fitting the darn things.

MSDS are still the best.


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Personally I'd rather have a heavier gauge stainless header over coated mild steel like I have. I am also running a turbo off of my MSDS and have modified them, so warranty isn't an issue in my case.





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Except Weapons-Rice's copy-cat headers are thinner gauge then MSDS headers. Also with SS being more brittle that is a bad combination for overall longevity or for a turbo project like you mentioned.

I have had the MSDS headers for over 4 years and they've been partially wrapped (from collector's on) for over 2 years and they look as good now as the day I bought them. I am very happy with them.


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Are the Weapon R's 321 or 304L SS? If they're 304L, then I'd agree about wanting the coated mild steel over them.


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