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Originally posted by theTK:
I agree with the majority of the consumers on here in saying that it needs a redesign. As a fabricator myself, I would never buy anything that completely disagrees so much with the factory body lines.
Subtlety and flow are an easily violated rule in visual art. Now you the picture of the M3 is constantly being reposted, but this prototype is a near miss.
What makes the trunk lid on the BMW so visually appealing is that the gradual sloping ducktail gracefully peaks slightly higher than the height of the rest of the trunk. It doesn't look like a 2ft. tall, abrupt launch ramp.
Also, from the rear view, it matches the slope of the rear fenders and taillights. Where as your prototype creates an entirely new arch.
Whoever is producing this is a business trying to design a product for mass appeal. So far the attitude has been, screw the customer, it looks better in person. Why the reluctance to make changes and make the trunk more subtle? There would be MANY more interested buyers, including myself.
Another product added to the aftermarket car industry that looks tacked on as a design after-thought. Bravo.
You put it perfectly
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Originally posted by parkedcar:
Originally posted by theTK:
I agree with the majority of the consumers on here in saying that it needs a redesign. As a fabricator myself, I would never buy anything that completely disagrees so much with the factory body lines.
Subtlety and flow are an easily violated rule in visual art. Now you the picture of the M3 is constantly being reposted, but this prototype is a near miss.
What makes the trunk lid on the BMW so visually appealing is that the gradual sloping ducktail gracefully peaks slightly higher than the height of the rest of the trunk. It doesn't look like a 2ft. tall, abrupt launch ramp.
Also, from the rear view, it matches the slope of the rear fenders and taillights. Where as your prototype creates an entirely new arch.
Whoever is producing this is a business trying to design a product for mass appeal. So far the attitude has been, screw the customer, it looks better in person. Why the reluctance to make changes and make the trunk more subtle? There would be MANY more interested buyers, including myself.
Another product added to the aftermarket car industry that looks tacked on as a design after-thought. Bravo.
You put it perfectly
Agreed, I've been feeling the same way.
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Originally posted by Swazo:
Originally posted by parkedcar:
Originally posted by theTK:
I agree with the majority of the consumers on here in saying that it needs a redesign. As a fabricator myself, I would never buy anything that completely disagrees so much with the factory body lines.
Subtlety and flow are an easily violated rule in visual art. Now you the picture of the M3 is constantly being reposted, but this prototype is a near miss.
What makes the trunk lid on the BMW so visually appealing is that the gradual sloping ducktail gracefully peaks slightly higher than the height of the rest of the trunk. It doesn't look like a 2ft. tall, abrupt launch ramp.
Also, from the rear view, it matches the slope of the rear fenders and taillights. Where as your prototype creates an entirely new arch.
Whoever is producing this is a business trying to design a product for mass appeal. So far the attitude has been, screw the customer, it looks better in person. Why the reluctance to make changes and make the trunk more subtle? There would be MANY more interested buyers, including myself.
Another product added to the aftermarket car industry that looks tacked on as a design after-thought. Bravo.
You put it perfectly
Agreed, I've been feeling the same way.
Couldn't have said it better 
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Originally posted by Ronan:
IF you guys are having trouble with the 3rd brake light, get one for the European mk2 Mondeo, which has the brake light mounted up high in the center of the rear window, just attached to the roof. That way you can keep your spoiler and 3rd brake light.
Oh and if that trunk would fit the mondeo mk1, I would have bought one right away.
And spend more time & energy when it should be integrated in the trunk already.
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i think it would look awesome on the fin too...
PLEASE HELP ME GET MY CAR TOGETHER! ITS IN DAYTON OHIO! I need the motor together and in the car so i can DRIVE it! Pleeeeeese!
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Originally posted by 98_HO_Contour:
Originally posted by Swazo:
Originally posted by parkedcar:
Originally posted by theTK:
I agree with the majority of the consumers on here in saying that it needs a redesign. As a fabricator myself, I would never buy anything that completely disagrees so much with the factory body lines.
Subtlety and flow are an easily violated rule in visual art. Now you the picture of the M3 is constantly being reposted, but this prototype is a near miss.
What makes the trunk lid on the BMW so visually appealing is that the gradual sloping ducktail gracefully peaks slightly higher than the height of the rest of the trunk. It doesn't look like a 2ft. tall, abrupt launch ramp.
Also, from the rear view, it matches the slope of the rear fenders and taillights. Where as your prototype creates an entirely new arch.
Whoever is producing this is a business trying to design a product for mass appeal. So far the attitude has been, screw the customer, it looks better in person. Why the reluctance to make changes and make the trunk more subtle? There would be MANY more interested buyers, including myself.
Another product added to the aftermarket car industry that looks tacked on as a design after-thought. Bravo.
You put it perfectly
Agreed, I've been feeling the same way.
Couldn't have said it better
Me three!
I would also suggest they eliminate the stupid center reflector while there at it.
That way it allows pre98's to buy one without haveing to fish for a relfector. Plus the reflector is fugly on top of the height of it.
These guys need to go take some marketing classes! 
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Originally posted by Stazi:
Originally posted by 98_HO_Contour:
Originally posted by Swazo:
Originally posted by parkedcar:
Originally posted by theTK:
I agree with the majority of the consumers on here in saying that it needs a redesign. As a fabricator myself, I would never buy anything that completely disagrees so much with the factory body lines.
Subtlety and flow are an easily violated rule in visual art. Now you the picture of the M3 is constantly being reposted, but this prototype is a near miss.
What makes the trunk lid on the BMW so visually appealing is that the gradual sloping ducktail gracefully peaks slightly higher than the height of the rest of the trunk. It doesn't look like a 2ft. tall, abrupt launch ramp.
Also, from the rear view, it matches the slope of the rear fenders and taillights. Where as your prototype creates an entirely new arch.
Whoever is producing this is a business trying to design a product for mass appeal. So far the attitude has been, screw the customer, it looks better in person. Why the reluctance to make changes and make the trunk more subtle? There would be MANY more interested buyers, including myself.
Another product added to the aftermarket car industry that looks tacked on as a design after-thought. Bravo.
You put it perfectly
Agreed, I've been feeling the same way.
Couldn't have said it better
Me three!
I would also suggest they eliminate the stupid center reflector while there at it.
That way it allows pre98's to buy one without haveing to fish for a relfector. Plus the reflector is fugly on top of the height of it.
These guys need to go take some marketing classes!
Well said...if they did as I suggested in the beginning they would be a hit! Make a stock OEM without the reflector and NO spoiler then offer a variety of spoiler options from the mild lip or stock post 97 spoiler to radical wing if they like all in CF. This would satisfy all Contour and Mystique owners no matter what year and everyone wouldn't look the same. Give us an option and some variety to choose our own personal look. This is a major f-up to say the least and could have been easily avoided if they only asked 
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PLEASE HELP ME GET MY CAR TOGETHER! ITS IN DAYTON OHIO! I need the motor together and in the car so i can DRIVE it! Pleeeeeese!
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Originally posted by Stazi:
Originally posted by 98_HO_Contour:
Originally posted by Swazo:
Originally posted by parkedcar:
Originally posted by theTK:
I agree with the majority of the consumers on here in saying that it needs a redesign. As a fabricator myself, I would never buy anything that completely disagrees so much with the factory body lines.
Subtlety and flow are an easily violated rule in visual art. Now you the picture of the M3 is constantly being reposted, but this prototype is a near miss.
What makes the trunk lid on the BMW so visually appealing is that the gradual sloping ducktail gracefully peaks slightly higher than the height of the rest of the trunk. It doesn't look like a 2ft. tall, abrupt launch ramp.
Also, from the rear view, it matches the slope of the rear fenders and taillights. Where as your prototype creates an entirely new arch.
Whoever is producing this is a business trying to design a product for mass appeal. So far the attitude has been, screw the customer, it looks better in person. Why the reluctance to make changes and make the trunk more subtle? There would be MANY more interested buyers, including myself.
Another product added to the aftermarket car industry that looks tacked on as a design after-thought. Bravo.
You put it perfectly
Agreed, I've been feeling the same way.
Couldn't have said it better
Me three!
I would also suggest they eliminate the stupid center reflector while there at it.
That way it allows pre98's to buy one without haveing to fish for a relfector. Plus the reflector is fugly on top of the height of it.
These guys need to go take some marketing classes!
Okay, well, the pre 98 cars will still have to buy the outer taillights from the later model cars, as the two cars have different taillight set ups. I know, as I have both trunks, and I had to purchase the taillights from the 95 car to make it look uniform. The center reflector stayed (I believe) because it was easier to make that way. From a marketing standpoint, it covers the 95-2000 Mystique as well. To me, the taillights look unfinished and just come to an abrupt stop if you eliminate the center reflector. And then you'll have to come up with a new license plate mount, license plate lights, and reverse lights. Then you'll have a few different people complain about how the trunk looks weird without the center reflector.
I cannot defend the trunklid, as they say "to each, his own." Brian (svtprodigy) has already indicated that he will try to find another carbon fiber shop to make a different trunklid. I'm interested in seeing how that pans out as well. I can say it is lightweight, the weave is clean, and I think it will look good when I put my splitter back on the car. I am going in this Thursday or Friday for the first production trunk to be fitted. I am going to have the guys from CF1 look through this thread again to take a look at the responses.
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Dion,
If you decide to pick up your trunklid on Friday, stop by the Starbucks on Pioneer & Artesia, if you have time. I''l be working after 11am & would really like to see your car in-person. Drinks are on me.
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