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Originally posted by scottd60:
As I stated before when they were 1st talking about this...make a stock OEM trunk lid, probably a pre-98. This would more than likely satisfy just about everyone, if you want to add a Lip, wing, etc. you would have that option to pick something that is of your own particular taste and choice. If CF1 was smart about this they could create a couple of carbon fiber spoilers/wings to sell as well that fit an OEM CF trunk lid. I think they really screwed up here. As for all you guys coming out and saying "if it's anything like the CF1 cowl hood it will be awesome". Well, apparently you don't have one or haven't looked at one very closely  I do have one and in general I like it (from a distance and in pic's) but if I had to buy it over again I probably wouldn't. The fit is poor and the finish and overall quality is average at best. I would consider my hood a "BLEM" but it was not sold to me that way�I paid full price. This CF1 Trunk Lid w/Old School Spoiler is just like the mistake they made on the Cowl hood's useless little scoop/bird bath they put in the center of the hood. If they had asked CEG up front they would have found out that ~90% would NOT have wanted the scoop. The current pole in this thread is clearly showing the same about the CF1 trunk lid as well. With such a small market this clearly was not a smart move on their part. Lets face it this car is a dying bread and in general not very desirable to the majority of the general public or even car enthusiast. IMHO if not for the SVT or Mondeo this car wouldn't get any real interest whatsoever for modding other then a few poor high school kids with Grandmom's free Contour. As we all well know...kid's will try and mod just about anything. Body parts in general for the most part have been developed for the non-SVT guys since they are easily found and typically much cheaper. This gives them a chance to convert to the SVT look or some other custom version, you don't find too many SVT guys changing the body all that much.
All in all I'm glad CF1 is willing to make parts for our cars but if they want to do well they need to get online here and get real opinions before they build things that pretty much only we here on CEG will buy for the most part. 
A pre-98 with wing/spoiler options would be awsome. A CF pre-98 with no wing/spoiler options would be great too.
A FWD Nascar Contour, not so awsome.
the only thing keeping me from spending the money on one of them hoods is the bird bath. I love cowl, but it's ruined by that heat extractor, and forget about having it smoothed over, that ruins the CF finish. Yeah you can open it up and make it functional, but I'd rather have the back of the cowl open and let it function as a vent that way.
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Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Did you ever think about cutting the birdbath and making the hood functional!? That is what a few MI guys did. 
Nope...wrong location unless you like water puddling up all around you LIM and injectors, not me. It should have been forward more like between the radiator support and the IMRC cover to let exhaust heat escape. Plus any water would just run down between the motor and radiator and not in the top of the motor. Now it just fills up with water and looks stupid...but hey the birds seem to like it 
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Thats just it...a cowl hood should be functional with the cowl..that's the whole point! If the rear is open (and I don't know on the contour cowl hoods if it is or not) then you don't need the 'bird bath'...plus the 'bird bath' takes away from the hood itself.
I have to agree with Scotty to the MF'ing D about the trunk...the wing just does not flow with the lines of the car. If you have Kaotic or whatever body kit, then maybe it would work, but with the stock lines...no. don't try to make a new car with smooth lines into an old school boxy type car..ain't gonna work.
Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Did you ever think about cutting the birdbath and making the hood functional!? That is what a few MI guys did.
The Cowl is open and works great at getting the hot air out. Still not what a cowl hood is supposed to do though...you know suck cool fresh air in at the low pressure area at the base of the windsheild/cowl area and channel it to a big fat air cleaner
Oh yeah...it makes my intake sound real cool too 
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The back of the cowl is functional, the "bird bath" is just fer decoration.
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Originally posted by parkedcar:
Originally posted by scottd60:
"if it's anything like the CF1 cowl hood it will be awesome". Well, apparently you don't have one or haven't looked at one very closely I do have one and in general I like it (from a distance and in pic's) but if I had to buy it over again I probably wouldn't. The fit is poor and the finish and overall quality is average at best. I would consider my hood a "BLEM" but it was not sold to me that way�I paid full price.
I feel the same way about the quality of my hood. I saw their ebay auction for "grade b" hoods. Mine has all the same defects but was told this is all normal. I recieved $100 back for a bad latch but still have the bubbles, and skewing.
But at the same time no one else is making a hood like that.
My cowl hood has a crooked latch, bubbles, blemish the size of a big finger print in the clear, strange lines, skewed CF, unfinished edges and is under size by about 1" both front to back and side to side as well. I did not get anything back and also was told all of this was normal
Plus my car it the one in their pictures on both eBay and on their site selling these hoods 
Scott
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now that i see it's from the same company that made the bird bath hoods i think their excuses for the poor craftsmenship/quality is poor at best. as ive stated before, ive had a cf hood before and it was flawless and i paid $400 for it. i have seen many other people's cf hoods and trunk lids and have not seen issues like these. for the amount of money these parts cost they should practically put themselves on, let alone fit right. i was thinking of getting a hood and trunk lid. that's almost a grand but now i think ill just stick with my perfect fitting stock parts thanks. BUT, i'll hold my final judgement for when a few guinea pigs have them on their cars. 
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Originally posted by parkedcar:
Originally posted by scottd60:
"if it's anything like the CF1 cowl hood it will be awesome". Well, apparently you don't have one or haven't looked at one very closely I do have one and in general I like it (from a distance and in pic's) but if I had to buy it over again I probably wouldn't. The fit is poor and the finish and overall quality is average at best. I would consider my hood a "BLEM" but it was not sold to me that way�I paid full price.
I feel the same way about the quality of my hood. I saw their ebay auction for "grade b" hoods. Mine has all the same defects but was told this is all normal. I recieved $100 back for a bad latch but still have the bubbles, and skewing.
But at the same time no one else is making a hood like that.
I should get my $100 back too!!!
Seems like everything i was saying a month ago about problems with the hood that i was being bashed for is being backed up right now..
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Guys this not a GB about hoods. In respect to Dion, and in general hood comments are cluttering up this thread. Lets stay on topic. But to end the debate, the cowl hood was my idea all the way to the bird bath, if you don't like it I'm sorry, but it was designed to remove hot air from under the hood, and thats exactly what it does, very well I might add(kind of for the FI guys is what I had in mind). The bird bath is ment to be a customer option to cut it out or not, just like washer nozzels. Its very easy, and the benifits are there. Besides the water issue is minor at best. If you had an issue with a hood, you should have brought that up with the manufacture or who ever you purchased it from at the time. Now is not that time. Not trying to be rude, but thats just the way it works with everything. Scott I know that if the frame underneath was open you would have liked it better, well frankly me to  . Sorry guys. You could always wait for a hood from Japan , which seem to be having some issues as well. So please try to stay on topic or take it to pms.
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OK, it looks better one colour. If you look at the relationship between the high points, it's not that tall after all. It may just look good BUT how about throwing that trunk onto a contour for a second and snapping a coupla photos from a few angles to see how it actually looks on the car????
Also how about a bit of a price break it costs more than the hood! 
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Originally posted by Stazi:
OK, it looks better one colour. If you look at the relationship between the high points, it's not that tall after all. It may just look good BUT how about throwing that trunk onto a contour for a second and snapping a coupla photos from a few angles to see how it actually looks on the car????
Also how about a bit of a price break it costs more than the hood!
Thats the plan I beleive, Dion is a busy guy. So I imagine he will be down there ASAP.
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Originally posted by Stazi:
Also how about a bit of a price break it costs more than the hood!
To make a trunk is much more complicated, afterall it has a 90 degree bend and curves. A hood is bascily flat, so a price break would be out of the question.
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