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I see plenty of big HP numbers and decent TQ numbers giving the increase in displacement from the 3.0L block swap, but how come even the turbocharged and supercharged cars are way behind cars with simular power outputs?
Are you guys tuning for big HP and trying to maximze power under the curve for better transit response after shifting? or is the gearing is all wrong for drag racing?
If I end up getting a 'Tour, I don't wanna make a bunch of changes expecting say 12 second ET's and not get them because the car just isn't capable of it.
Please no - "You should buy a Mustang post" If I bought a Stang when I was done it would do wheel stands but get 4mpg in the process, no thanks.
I'm interested in making a neat sedan whoop butt on the mean streets of Southern California and occasional track use. That way I don't have rent a car when I feel like my Neon is too edgey for dates.
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the tour just simply is not a drag car. it is more of a autocross car. the problem is gross wheel spin. soon as someone figures out how to get 300-400 whp to the ground we will see some nice times.
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Originally posted by Anthony Thomas:
Please no - "You should buy a Mustang post" If I bought a Stang when I was done it would do wheel stands but get 4mpg in the process, no thanks.
I'm interested in making a neat sedan whoop butt on the mean streets of Southern California and occasional track use. That way I don't have rent a car when I feel like my Neon is too edgey for dates.
Thanks
Get an M5  ...Hey, I didn't say get a Mustang. What the hell do you mean by your neon is "too edgey for dates". HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. I hope that is sarcasm. Is this a regular neon or an SRT-4? If it is an SRT then your problem would already be solved. If it is a regular neon,well, then you should get rid of it, it is just way too edgey.
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Originally posted by Anthony Thomas:
If I end up getting a 'Tour, I don't wanna make a bunch of changes expecting say 12 second ET's and not get them because the car just isn't capable of it.
You want 12's from a tour expect to lay down what, at least 10,000 dollars or so? Figure an upgraded ADC kit with a custom tune, forged internals, lsd, upgraded axels...
I don't think even our 400 hp 'tours are laying down 12's yet due to launch troubles.
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Originally posted by ScottK:
Originally posted by Anthony Thomas:
If I end up getting a 'Tour, I don't wanna make a bunch of changes expecting say 12 second ET's and not get them because the car just isn't capable of it.
You want 12's from a tour expect to lay down what, at least 10,000 dollars or so? Figure an upgraded ADC kit with a custom tune, forged internals, lsd, upgraded axels...
I don't think even our 400 hp 'tours are laying down 12's yet due to launch troubles.
Easier then that.
Strategic weight reduction.
Nice 3L
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BFG DR's or much better yet SLICKS!!!
I bet I could hit 12's with just a little love tap of juice & sticky tires and we found out my car's not that light.
12's are all about Traction.
Well unless of course you go Scott's route and make mad mojo power!
Even with that said several "big dogs" should be in the 12's anyway.  They easily have the power and/or trap speed.
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how Light are we talking here?
Cougar V6 MTX: GMK Carbon Fiber Cold Air Intake : SVT UIM : SVT LIM : SVT TB : MSDS Headers & Ypipe : TruBendz 2.5" Borla Single Exhaust : Soild Front Motor Mount : & more
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Originally posted by GrandMasterKhan:
how Light are we talking here?
100lbs, you supposedly can't remove more weight than that. 
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so what are you waiting for girly man.. Originally posted by DemonSVT:
I bet I could hit 12's with just a little love tap of juice & sticky tires and we found out my car's not that light.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by GrandMasterKhan:
how Light are we talking here?
100lbs, you supposedly can't remove more weight than that.
Oh boy, round 3.. DING DING DING!
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by GrandMasterKhan:
how Light are we talking here?
100lbs, you supposedly can't remove more weight than that.
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