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Originally posted by Roz 1999 SVT-C:
Buckshot spent 32,000$ on building his supercharged 400Hp monster.
Rick has $32,000 into the car as a whole, not $32,000 into the engine and transmission to make/support 400 whp.
In my setup I have about $5000 into the motor alone, $5000 in the turbo kit, and then $2800 into the drivetrain so ~ $13,000 total.
Its really a shame these cars pistons, axles etc, are so darn brittle. Maybe just buy a Maxima or something. Just add a T-66 turbo kit, upgrade clutches, and injectors and your good to go. Harolds put down 538 whp, 603 wtq on a STOCK internal motor, and the motor and stock axles hold up to 6,000 clutch dumps on slicks. Could probably be done for about $5500. If our drivetrain and motor were just as strong, we could be right in that price range but were not, so we have to add parts to strengthen the motor and drivetrain if you want to shoot for that kind of horsepower. 
 
Jim Hahn
1996 T-Red Contour SE Reborn 4/6/04
3.0L swap and Arizona Dyno Chip Turbo Kit
364 whp, 410 wtq @ 4,700 rpm
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Thats more like it. Ugh... must be nice..
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Holy Crap !!! Is this still going! LOL
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Originally posted by ssmumich00:
Originally posted by Stazi:
I think Smokeshow's been smoking too much as he doesn't seem to get the point, even when broken down into Business 101 terms. 
Also anything with 500hp is not going to get any better than 15mpg - it's simple physics...to make power you need to burn more fule=more gas=lower mileage.
Note: ssumich's car puts down, to the wheels, 400hp, at the crank you're "approaching" close to 500hp. The engine could possibly put out more, but the options for harnessing this sort of power, i.e. transmission, driveshaft and suspension upgrades are the next limiting factors.
Why can't you be happy with getting this sort of output from a small 4-door without havig a car that looks like a gutted Civic dragster? 
hehe, I was so happy when I drove back from AZ and posted nearly 350 or more to the tank. . .because now, in the city, racing prick's with M3's and other household exotics, my tank is almost empty and I've only driven 140miles!!!  I'll be lucky to hit 180, which, like Stazi mentioned, is about 15mpg. Yup, that much hp translates to no gas mileage. . .oh well,
I need to stop staying in boost so much, and stay below 3k.
Haven't I been saying this about fuel economy the whole time! I've been living with 13 MPG in the city for a year and a half now. It sucks but thats because I also cannot stay out of the pedal. Oh well, you gotta pay to play.
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Originally posted by ssmumich00:
I need to stop staying in boost so much, and stay below 3k.
when I had my 240 SX it was impossible for me to drive it like a "normal" person.....don't even try cuz you will just upset yourself....
People suck.
Rev it till it MELTS.....
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you do have to pay to play, here's the run down on what I ACTUALLY spent:
$5.5k for ADC kit
about $4k to have it, along with a new engine, installed and tuned.
$1700 in engine parts.
$1400 in tranny parts.
$800 for tranny labor (which is retarded because my tranny is a little messed up, but whatev).
So total=$13400.
eh, could've bought a new car, or used it as a downpayment, but since I could'nt afford insurance on a new car, and couldn't get rid of my car (it's nearly new as far as I'm concerned, 56k on clock), I did what I did. . .
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I would be content with anything over 10 mpg consistantly. I guess it's a min. of $10,000 to get these cars to where they should of been in stock form. By that I mean, fast and not easily broken. And anyone who has boost knows, it is very hard to stay out of boost. Everytime a car gets ahead of you. You push the pedal a little more. Or hell, just for the shear ability to hear it spool up, or dump off. It's just addictive.
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Originally posted by Smokeshow:
I guess it's a min. of $10,000 to get these cars to where they should of been in stock form. By that I mean, fast and not easily broken.
LMAO you still don't get it?! This was not a car designed to be like the M5. You could just as easily say that the Contour should have cost another 20k, and competed with the Corvette. The Contour is a 4 door family car, priced for the average family, not someone that wants a 400hp daily driver that gets 13mpg!
I am sure you are right in how addicting turbos are, but if you want the power you are looking for, it sounds like you want a GT mustang or the likes of it.
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Originally posted by 99blacksesport:
Originally posted by Smokeshow:
I guess it's a min. of $10,000 to get these cars to where they should of been in stock form. By that I mean, fast and not easily broken.
You could just as easily say that the Contour should have cost another 20k, and competed with the Corvette.
my thoughts exactly.
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A mustang gt? Are you on crack? A stock svt contour is door to door with a gt. But yes, I think the car should of run mid 13's in stock form and cost more. But as you can see I do not think like the main stream. Nor will I ever. And as much as you apparently are "waiting for me to get it", I am not going to say that this car can not be made fast for under that price range. Not saying that I am crazy for thinking it. But I have not come to terms with it.
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