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#1060001 09/23/04 06:46 PM
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I sat in a Ford Five Hundred in SEL trim yesterday. Let me say it looks so much different person than it does in the magazine. I think maybe the stuff in the mags and newspapers are the Limited models. I dont know where the SEL sits in the hiearchy of the models but man it looks so plan jane. The ones in the reviews look so more plush and refined. The interior cloth fabric seems no diff than on a current Taurus and the fake woodgrain is kinda cheezy. The grill was kind of cheap too. The only going for the car was the trunk space. They should razzle up that car in SVT trim n make it look much better.


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I think SEL is the medium level model


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I thought it went S, SE, SES?

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According to Ford Website,Trim levels are: SE, SEL, and Limited

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Ford 500 =



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Despite the design flaws, it does have some key high points. The chassis and frame are based on the Volvo S80 platform; so, presumably world class crash protection. This will be one safe car in terms of collision and occupant safety.

I do like the interior; compared to most every other Ford offering. One plus is the separation of HVAC and Radio. It looks like a regular din sized aftermarket HU would work if you were so inclined. Not that a typical 500 buyer would be. It's also larger inside than a Crown Vic. The handleing and center console provide a mild European flavor. Autoweek didn't bash it's handling, but did ask for more power. Perhaps the future will provde a hotter version of the Duratec.



It's trim levels are SE, SEL, and Limited. Each can be had in FWD or AWD.

The top of the line Limited, with AWD - Optioned with 2-Row Safety Canopyââ??¢ with Rollover Sensor, Side Impact Air Bags and a Power Moonroof will be just under $30K.


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Originally posted by Trapps:
Autoweek didn't bash it's handling, but did ask for more power. Perhaps the future will provde a hotter version of the Duratec.






Road & Track quite liked it as well. No negatives said. They actually said the 5spd auto keeps its revs up and in the power band so acceleration isnt an issue.

They also said it had the largest trunk of any auto at over 22cu/ft.



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Originally posted by Trapps:
It's also larger inside than a Crown Vic.




While it may be larger inside, it won't be nearly as fun as a Crown Vic. Sure the Vic may be big and heavy, but its RWD and a V8 with decent power. If they would have made this car exactly the same as it is, but RWD and with a V8, they would've had something to compete with the 300.. I suppose they have the Lincoln for that, but oh well.

Most other automakers are using RWD for their big passenger cars, and Chrysler even went back to RWD from FWD.. Just seems like Ford is a little behind the times here.

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Originally posted by ottawanker:
While it may be larger inside, it won't be nearly as fun as a Crown Vic. Sure the Vic may be big and heavy, but its RWD and a V8 with decent power. If they would have made this car exactly the same as it is, but RWD and with a V8, they would've had something to compete with the 300.. I suppose they have the Lincoln for that, but oh well.

Most other automakers are using RWD for their big passenger cars, and Chrysler even went back to RWD from FWD.. Just seems like Ford is a little behind the times here.




Wrong on so many levels.

Ford has a large sedan with RWD and a V8, It's called the Lincoln LS. The Crown Vic is an outdated and overwieght pig, it's really sad to still see them on the road.

Honda, Audi, Toyota, Nissan, Ford, and GM, plus child companies, are almost all FWD or AWD. BMW and Dahlmer/Chrysler are really only on RWD and AWD.

Get rear wheel drive in a little bit of snow and tell me which is better.

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Yeah, I can't wait to see how many people praise their RWD Hemi powered 300's when it snows


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