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How far off was my alignment?
Left numbers are before and right numbers are after.
Front Toe
Left -.73 -.09 Right +.11 -.09 Total -.62 -.17
Rear Toe
Left +.02 +.19 Right +.15 +.16 Total +.17 +.34
Front Camber for the heck of it
Left -.5 Right -.3 Cross -.2
So, how bad was it?
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Not to bad. With the exception of the LF toe. Thats pretty far out. But your camber looks good.
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Your total front toe was off a lot. Mine exibited a lot of toe wear when it was half of what yours read.
Your rear toe is now worse than it started.
Your camber readings are very good.
Personally, I like to see the front toe as close to 0 as possible while still being slightly negative and the rear toe as close to 0 as possible while still being slightly positive.
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ed, what are the caster readings? do u have the camber/caster kits installed?
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Originally posted by hmouta: ed, what are the caster readings? do u have the camber/caster kits installed?
No, the suspension is stock. No kits installed.
Jim,
The rear toe specs were closer to the target specs on the sheet after the alignment. Is this not correct?
The car is now smooth as silk.
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Originally posted by Ed98.5SVT: Originally posted by hmouta: ed, what are the caster readings? do u have the camber/caster kits installed?
No, the suspension is stock. No kits installed.
Jim,
The rear toe specs were closer to the target specs on the sheet after the alignment. Is this not correct?
The car is now smooth as silk.
If it is within spec (not close, but within), then leave it alone. It is not what I would call ideal though.
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Lol yeah "within spec". My alignment for my Cougar said within spec for camber was from .7 degrees to -1.89 degrees. WTF that much negative camber would burn up tires. My camber is at approx -1.2 to -1.7 degrees all around and I have bad tire wear on the insides of all my tires and the alignment shop said it was from my tire pressures being off. I don't even have that bad of a drop I'm riding on Eibachs.
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Originally posted by Blackcoog: Lol yeah "within spec". My alignment for my Cougar said within spec for camber was from .7 degrees to -1.89 degrees. WTF that much negative camber would burn up tires. My camber is at approx -1.2 to -1.7 degrees all around and I have bad tire wear on the insides of all my tires and the alignment shop said it was from my tire pressures being off. I don't even have that bad of a drop I'm riding on Eibachs.
Camber doesn't really eat tires up unless the toe setting is off (in which case they get chewed in a hurry) or the car exhibits poor toe control.
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Originally posted by MFE:
Camber doesn't really eat tires up unless the toe setting is off (in which case they get chewed in a hurry) or the car exhibits poor toe control.
Sure it does in street cars. Just takes a little longer. Toe can effect the whole tire, by feathering, while camber is just the inner or the outer.
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Yes...on street cars with sloppy components that don't provide proper dynamic alignment control, and on street cars that don't have a proper toe setting to begin with, which if you slam a strut equipped car and get increased camber, trust me, you do NOT have the proper toe setting anymore.
I've run what many people would consider "excessive" negative camber for a long time, and paying careful attention to the toe cured 95% of all inner-edge tire wear issues. The rest was cured by making the aligment more stable with better components.
Show me the uneven wear on these tires...at the time the pictures were taken they had been run with 2.5 degrees negative camber for 10,000 miles of street driving, 2 open track events, and dozens of autocross runs. The key is the toe was carefully set and the suspension has good toe control.
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