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Dude. It was GSP that did the manaveur, after 13 minutes of the vechicle being in their jurisdiction. I'm sure some of that was spent catching up to the SUV, so MAYBE 10 minutes that it took for this GSP officer to do that. And notice that he flies by the other cop (non-gsp i believe) and does it pretty quickly. How hard is to understand that spike strips would have been a lot better to use? The insterstate isn't exactly a difficult thing to figure out. Get a unit that is ahead of the vehicle to park on the side of the road, or better yet TWO units, each with strips. As the SUV comes by, slide the strip out, flat tires, and pull it back in. I guess you don't know about spike strips or just want to ignore them. Most 17 yr olds aren't gonna pull the keys out from someone running from the cops, especially someone older than them. Would you say the same thing if it was a baby? Yeah what a stupid baby for not pulling them keys out. I swear, some people just want to argue for the sake of arguement and not even THINK about alternatives to a situation.

Spike strips are better used in a more controlled situation ie. less traffic, smaller road.
So when you cross a state line you get like a do over or a start again?
We're not talking babies stupid! He's 17! One more year and he can vote! If this 17 year old thinks like you think he thinks then maybe a little bleach for the gene pool is what's required!
Despite these points you're trying to make let's go back to my first post, try a little personal responsibility and...

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DON'T RUN FROM THE COPS!

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I'm not arguing for the sake of an argument I'm just trying to enlighten another fingerpointer who's trying to find someone else to blame other than the people who started the chase in the first place!

Well no crap you shouldn't run from the cops, man you're smart. But cops should use a little more thought and not go killing people every chance they get, especially ONE innocent person,, oo but that person was guilty because they didn't get the key out. How do you know that 17 yr old didn't try to stop the driver? How would you feel if it was your kid that had been the 17 yr old? Oo I bet you woulda felt the same. You know what, pit manaveurs are also better used at slower speeds and less traffic.
I'm not saying the SUV driver was right, and I'm not even saying the cops were completely wrong BUT there are alternatives that they could have used and saved an INNOCENT life. Ooo but what does that persons life matter? According to you they deserved to die. Dude, you shoulda been in that SUV, you pathetic loser. You don't care about human life either that or you just don't think. OR both.

kermit please contribute something useful to this thread or just stop posting. Not only do you not know a single thing about EVO but you also dont know a single thing about what went through/ is going through that officers head. He may have been ordered to do that - he may be at home crying that he killed someone. Bottom line - you dont know anything about the situation and you obviously dont know much about law enforcement.

As I have told you many times please learn about a subject before you post up useless garbage

I'm not saying the officer is at fault. Though I'm saying the supervisor or however ordered should have thought of better methods first. There are many chases that end without pit manaveurs being performed at 100mph+. Please read my posts and try to understand them, and understand them with more than just your cop view. I'm not mad about the cop himself (as you seem to think I am), I'm mad about the action when other alternatives weren't tried. Again, how would you feel if that was a relative of your's as the passenger?
And do you realize I started this thread?
How many times will it take for you to realize it doesn't matter what you tell me? I'm not gonna think about how I might go against someone else's opinion, because that's basically what this boils down to.
Please come back with something useful yourself, in relation to the arguement. Don't get off topic by trying to make it look like I'm blaming a single officer.

I already told you I dont play this game -

Made a crappy outline so ya'll can flame me more rather than discuss/argue the subject. :::
1.SUV driver wrong for running
2.Cops should have tried a different manaveur first
3.Innocent life lost, some people try to argue that somehow that because this person was in the SUV, that they aren't innocent because they didn't stop the driver. Obviously the driver isn't the kinda person that is easily stopped, so maybe they did try but failed. They were innocent and they are now dead
4.Yeah some things have to be done, but if there is a better way, how bout we try it first, huh? Ooo no, let's kill people.
5.horse, I don't know much about EVO, that's true, I'm sure RT and his SE doesn't either
6.I'm not blaming a single officer
7.I probably know more about law enforcement than you think
8.This doesn't even really boil down to what I know, it boils down to what's right,,, or to put it to where ya'll can understand ,,, let's try NOT to kill people

OK suppose they where allowed to continue and after the spike strip did work, this 4500 lb moving at 100 mph piles into a car caring your family? THEY ALL DIE! Who do you blame? The cops? I mean it certainly by your logic it couldn't be the people in the other car breaking the law. There must have been something else they could have done. Well spiking them in heavy traffic is not an exact science but Kremi said it would work so how come it didn't?
I said earlier that in MY eyes the 17 after 60-some miles is an accomplice. That's MY opinion, bite me if you don't like it!
As far as life goes I care a lot but I care far less for those breaking the law and endangering other because of what amounts to their own selfishness.

Maybe when you grow up you'll understand but I doubt it!

After the spike strip did work? Well their vehicle would be decellerating prettyt quickly at that point. Why would they hit a vehicle then as opposed to the 70 miles they already went?
This is all opinion, we need to both bite each other.
DUDE, you think that 17 yr old was breaking the law? You have some weird logic to me. I know that if I was driving there are many people that could TRY to stop me, but I could easily get them to stop, by hitting,etc. (Many could also stop me by hitting,etc.)
Like I said the cops weren't completely wrong. But in that 70 mile chase, they could have tried strips or something else. Did they keep doing that chase just hoping at some point the SUV would decide to stop? They should have tried something before then.
You really really have bad logic when you think because someone is in a vehicle they are a law breaker and should die. Sad thing is you're already grown up and have that logic.

Do you remember the lady who hit a homeless man and just went home? She hits this guy and he is her front window, like through it. She goes home and lets him die in her car window in her garage. I think she was just nuts and maybe a little drunk.... This one is pretty bad, how do think you can drive with that much in you.