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What audio setup do u have and how do u think it sounds. I have a JVC head unit(200watts), a audiobahn 12"sub(1100watt rms) and an audiobahn amp(8002T 800rms). I think it sounds very good with deep bass but will sound better once i get a capacitor. Just curious to here what everyone else is pumpin
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Alpine Head Unit (CDA-9807), Alpine Speakers (Type S 5x7s) run by Alpine F 240 amp (360 watt max), 2 12" Kicker Comps run by Alpine M 350.
Decent setup. Definitly entry level but I am pleased. The quality is excellent and I can bump pretty loud if i want to. Usually dont crank it though.
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HU - Pioneer AVX-P7000CD 7" motorized LCD
HU/Master Controller - Pioneer AVM-P9000R
includes 5.1 channel amp and DTS
TV Tuner - Pioneer GEX-P7000TV
DVD Player - Pioneer SDV-P7
Components - MB Quart Q Comps 5.25
Sub - Stryke AV12 MkII
Amp - Soundstream Van Gogh 500.4 (500 watts to sub, 125x2 to components)
it sounds great.
most of it's for sale.... 
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Pioneer P9 combo Behringer DSP 8000 XTANT 2200ix Focal TLR Tweeters SEAS W21EX002 8" woofers Image Dynamics Custom ID SPL 15" subs Sounds ok
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Originally posted by 2deep2:
Pioneer P9 combo
Behringer DSP 8000
XTANT 2200ix
Focal TLR Tweeters
SEAS W21EX002 8" woofers
Image Dynamics Custom ID SPL 15" subs
Sounds ok
It sounds alot better than ok. I remember hearing your system you had last year and it was killer.
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Old Setup
Headunit: Eclipse 5442
Eq: Eclipse 21010
Crossover: Soundstream SVX4
4 Channel amp: Premier Class A
Sub amp: Soundstream Ref 500
Subs: SOundstream Exact 12's
Fronts: Soundstream Exact 6.3's
all wiring streetwires
Sounded Great!
Still have most of the stereo for sale
New Setup: Merkur XR4Ti
Headunit: Pioneer 6500
Crossover/EQ: Pioneer DEQ-9200
4 Channel amp: Premier Class A
Sub Amp: Not sure yet
Subs: Cerwin Vega Vega Series 10's possibly changed
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my setup:
-pioneer 2400F HU
-pioneer 3 ways in the front
-crossfire 300D amp
-Diamond audio CM3 12" sub
-and an 8" aluma pro alusonic mounted in the rear deck thats currently not in use...
-oh and sound dampened doors 
comments are more than welcome...
i think it sounds pretty decent, espically with the so-so equipment i have up front. ideally i would like componets and then amp them, an EQ, etc, and then i think the system would be perfect for my tastes. unfortunately its not really worth it at this point since i'm not going to have a car the 1st year in college, starting in august...  . im DEFINITELY going to miss my car stereo...
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-the HU serves its purpose, ideally i'd want an external amp though, but huge nice improvement over stock (of course)
-pioneer 3 ways were best bang for your buck thing i did...again large improvement over stock, but they do have their limits...would be better with an external amp.
-crossfire amp is amazing, and so is the diamond subwoofer- so clean, and it gets very low and loud...definitely an SQ sub, but still loud-amazing since im probably giving it about 100-200 watts UNDER its rms rating...if i ported it i think it would be awesome, i think ill do that for my next setup, when the time comes...
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HU: Eclipse 5442
Fronts: Vifa tweeters and Vifa 7" mids
Front amp: JBL P80.4
Crossover: Custom Madisound
Sub: Elemental Designs 12O.44
Sub amp: Xtant
Battery: Optima red top
Wiring: Knu Konceptz
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JVC HU 160 watts stock speakers 2 12" pioneer subs 2 15" Rockford Punch P1's 2 900 watt mono channel Rockford Amps People thought it would sound bad. Well, news flash, it doesn't! I know, quantity doesn't necessarily make quality but it sounds damn good if u ask me. This [censored] bumbs, hard. If I listen to it full blast for like 10 min, I'll get a headache, I'm addicted to bass. I have my 15's facing the back, and my 12's facing forward with the seats folded down. The only problems is, with the 15" box being almost as tall as the trunk, I don't feel it lets enough of the sound into the cabin like it should. But it sounds nice to me, thats all the matter, oh yea...and that I make people's heads turn! 
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Pioneer AVH - P6500 Touch Screen DVD  4 Infinity Reference 6802cf 6x8 door speakers Sony XM-2165GTX 2-Channel Amp 2 Infinity Reference 1230w subwoofers  Good enough for me. 
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8 year old Sony HU
6.5" Goldwood mids (8.00 each)
5/8" Onkyo Tweeters (.90 each)
[censored] stock 5x7s
This [censored] bumps hard.
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HU: Eclipse 3422
EQ/Crossover: Audiocontrol 3.1
Front: Polk Momo 5X7's
Rear: MB Quart 6 1/2 components
Amp for mids/highs: PPI A300
Subs: 2 JL Audio 10w3's in JL HO box
Amp for subs: PPI A300.2
Overall I'm happy with the sound but the rattles in this car will forever haunt my dreams. Btw, I just installed the polk momos up front last week and I would definately recommend them to anyone who's looking for a fairly easy drop in speaker. I had vifa 7" up fron with quart tweeters but but I'm slowly taking the old system apart because a new car might be on the way towards the end of the year. Some of my equiptment will be for sale soon so if anyone is interested shoot me a PM.
Vinny 2000 T-RED CSVT
MODS: 18" REV model 2 ST200 struts/Roush springs
CTA intake Pipe/K&N Filter
Dtec Heatshield
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Alpine CDA-9830 JBL PX300.4 Vifa PL18 7" drivers in the front doors Polk Dx tweeters by the sail panels Soundstream Exact 4.3 crossovers Polk Dx-10 subwoofer in Q-logic box KnuKonceptz wiring Though there are a few glitches, It is sounding better than ever. I need to actually install my Vifa neo tweeters I got from hmouta and get a new sub.
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Originally posted by path914:
HU: Eclipse 5442
Fronts: Vifa tweeters and Vifa 7" mids
Front amp: JBL P80.4
Crossover: Custom Madisound
Sub: Elemental Designs 12O.44
Sub amp: Xtant
Battery: Optima red top
Wiring: Knu Konceptz
What happened to the Eclipse 2101?
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HU: JVC KD-AR5000 (touchscreen)
Doors: Infinity 152.1 kappa
Sub: 12" Kicker L7 (square one for those who don't know)
Amp: Visonik V900HC
Cap: MA Audio 10 Farad
I'm runnin all 0/1 gauge wire, its pretty decent. The L7's are great for clarity as well as overall performance.
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umm yah check sig it is all there
sounds good still want a little more spl i think porting the box will do that but then i will lose sq i think
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Originally posted by SVT Driver627:
HU: JVC KD-AR5000 (touchscreen)
Doors: Infinity 152.1 kappa
Sub: 12" Kicker L7 (square one for those who don't know)
Amp: Visonik V900HC
Cap: MA Audio 10 Farad
I'm runnin all 0/1 gauge wire, its pretty decent. The L7's are great for clarity as well as overall performance.
Did u mean to say u have a 1 farad capacitor or do u just have a monster capacitor?(u need 1 farad for every 1000watts of power)
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180 watt folding awia deck CDC-X927M
front doors 220 watt 6.25 sony explodes forgot model numders
rear doors 180 watt 6X8 pioneers forgot model number
rear deck 6X9 250 watt pioneers TS-6969
sub lightning audio 500 watt 12 forgot that model numder too
6X9 amp 2 chanel 80 watt black hawk AMP2020
sub amp 2 chanel 340 watt dual XAF340
Total cost $328.92
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Originally posted by GregDawg:
JVC HU 160 watts
stock speakers
2 12" pioneer subs
2 15" Rockford Punch P1's
2 900 watt mono channel Rockford Amps
People thought it would sound bad. Well, news flash, it doesn't! I know, quantity doesn't necessarily make quality but it sounds damn good if u ask me. This [censored] bumbs, hard. If I listen to it full blast for like 10 min, I'll get a headache, I'm addicted to bass. I have my 15's facing the back, and my 12's facing forward with the seats folded down. The only problems is, with the 15" box being almost as tall as the trunk, I don't feel it lets enough of the sound into the cabin like it should. But it sounds nice to me, thats all the matter, oh yea...and that I make people's heads turn!
how are u powering ur system, do u have an extra battery or do u have some capacitors
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Originally posted by Monstour:
u need 1 farad for every 1000watts of power)
Not really. Technically, you need 0 farads for any power level.
We have fairly strong electrical systems and the VERY limited energy a cap can store helps very little. Adding a cap will certainly not add any audible improvements.
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Originally posted by Monstour:
Originally posted by GregDawg:
JVC HU 160 watts
stock speakers
2 12" pioneer subs
2 15" Rockford Punch P1's
2 900 watt mono channel Rockford Amps
People thought it would sound bad. Well, news flash, it doesn't! I know, quantity doesn't necessarily make quality but it sounds damn good if u ask me. This [censored] bumbs, hard. If I listen to it full blast for like 10 min, I'll get a headache, I'm addicted to bass. I have my 15's facing the back, and my 12's facing forward with the seats folded down. The only problems is, with the 15" box being almost as tall as the trunk, I don't feel it lets enough of the sound into the cabin like it should. But it sounds nice to me, thats all the matter, oh yea...and that I make people's heads turn!
how are u powering ur system, do u have an extra battery or do u have some capacitors
130A stock alternator will handle 1800w without hesitation sans a pure test tone diet to your woofer...
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Originally posted by AquaFBody:
180 watt folding awia deck CDC-X927M
front doors 220 watt 6.25 sony explodes forgot model numders
rear doors 180 watt 6X8 pioneers forgot model number
rear deck 6X9 250 watt pioneers TS-6969
sub lightning audio 500 watt 12 forgot that model numder too
6X9 amp 2 chanel 80 watt black hawk AMP2020
sub amp 2 chanel 340 watt dual XAF340
Total cost $328.92
Beats every one.
Are you trying to say its better than everyones or that for the price its better than everyones?
Becuase if your claiming either find what i have then subtract 10 dollars from what yours cost and thats how much mine was. Soo either way your last comment isn't true. Plus there are two Iasca Champs in this forum and i dno't think a Dual amp is gonna hang with that.
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Originally posted by Monstour:
Originally posted by SVT Driver627:
HU: JVC KD-AR5000 (touchscreen)
Doors: Infinity 152.1 kappa
Sub: 12" Kicker L7 (square one for those who don't know)
Amp: Visonik V900HC
Cap: MA Audio 10 Farad
I'm runnin all 0/1 gauge wire, its pretty decent. The L7's are great for clarity as well as overall performance.
Did u mean to say u have a 1 farad capacitor or do u just have a monster capacitor?(u need 1 farad for every 1000watts of power)
I really do have a 10 Farad Cap
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Polk db speakers
Corolla parts
LED Underbody Kit
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Originally posted by Doc Vox:
Originally posted by path914:
HU: Eclipse 5442
Fronts: Vifa tweeters and Vifa 7" mids
Front amp: JBL P80.4
Crossover: Custom Madisound
Sub: Elemental Designs 12O.44
Sub amp: Xtant
Battery: Optima red top
Wiring: Knu Konceptz
What happened to the Eclipse 2101?
I still have it boxed up somewhere... I installed everything else and decided that it was unnecessary (it would probably help a little, but I have no idea how to set it correctly anyway and my current systems sounds incredible as-is). I have never used it once. To be honest, I totally forgot that I had it...  , I should probably sell it... 
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Pioneer HU 7500MP Infinity 6802cf's in the doors 2 Boston Acoustics Pro Series 12.5LF Rockford Fosgate 551s Amp This system really bumps, but with this amp I am not feeding the subs nearly enough power, will get a new amp at the end of summer
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Originally posted by SVT Driver627:
Originally posted by Monstour:
Originally posted by SVT Driver627:
HU: JVC KD-AR5000 (touchscreen)
Doors: Infinity 152.1 kappa
Sub: 12" Kicker L7 (square one for those who don't know)
Amp: Visonik V900HC
Cap: MA Audio 10 Farad
I'm runnin all 0/1 gauge wire, its pretty decent. The L7's are great for clarity as well as overall performance.
Did u mean to say u have a 1 farad capacitor or do u just have a monster capacitor?(u need 1 farad for every 1000watts of power)
I really do have a 10 Farad Cap
May i ask why?
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Originally posted by dnewma04:
Originally posted by Monstour:
u need 1 farad for every 1000watts of power)
Not really. Technically, you need 0 farads for any power level.
We have fairly strong electrical systems and the VERY limited energy a cap can store helps very little. Adding a cap will certainly not add any audible improvements.
Well maybe my one amp is more powerful than other amps because with my 800watts, my lights dim(if i spelled it right)every time my bass hits and i know if i was to add another amp without 2 caps the whole thing would probably cut off. I've asked people at audio shops just incase anyone was thinking i'm coming up with this. EX. i went to an auto show and these people at the shop had their van out there that had countless amount of speakers and the guy said they don't really have enough batteries to power the system.(meaning it will cut off if they turn it up)
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Originally posted by dnewma04:
Originally posted by Monstour:
Originally posted by GregDawg:
JVC HU 160 watts
stock speakers
2 12" pioneer subs
2 15" Rockford Punch P1's
2 900 watt mono channel Rockford Amps
People thought it would sound bad. Well, news flash, it doesn't! I know, quantity doesn't necessarily make quality but it sounds damn good if u ask me. This [censored] bumbs, hard. If I listen to it full blast for like 10 min, I'll get a headache, I'm addicted to bass. I have my 15's facing the back, and my 12's facing forward with the seats folded down. The only problems is, with the 15" box being almost as tall as the trunk, I don't feel it lets enough of the sound into the cabin like it should. But it sounds nice to me, thats all the matter, oh yea...and that I make people's heads turn!
how are u powering ur system, do u have an extra battery or do u have some capacitors
130A stock alternator will handle 1800w without hesitation sans a pure test tone diet to your woofer...
I think that depends on the amp thats pumping out the 1800watts. A cheaper amp won't hit as hard as an more expensive amp, not to say mines is more powerful than anybody else's, but my altenator wouldn't be able to run any more
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Caps are pointless to an extent. 10 farad cap pointless.. 1 farad cap pointless unless you have done everything else like upgrade ground, power and alt wires aka the big 3. Then for how much your cap cost you can get a Yellow top that acctually will work! That in its self will prove that caps are worthless.
Caps are a selling tool by car audio companies and stores to make extra money by giving false hopes. I have never owned a cap in my life. when someone in this forum runs a Amp larger than a Soundstream Tarantula the 2000 watt rms one let me know and explain why you need a cap. Becuase i had one in my CSVT with a yellow top and lights never dimmed, or anything. ya if i took it off the cars main battery then the draw of 155amps (ya it was bench tested) would spell major problems for the 130a alt in the contour. and all the caps in the world wouldn't help the problem. Its good for instant spikes but most music is very fast paced and a cap can't keep up then it puts a strain on the electrical system to charge it.
The alumapro 50 farad cap is cool if you feel the need to waste money. If one needs a cap that large then do your self a favor and just get a few yellow tops you obviously have the room for them
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Originally posted by Doc Vox:
Originally posted by AquaFBody:
180 watt folding awia deck CDC-X927M
front doors 220 watt 6.25 sony explodes forgot model numders
rear doors 180 watt 6X8 pioneers forgot model number
rear deck 6X9 250 watt pioneers TS-6969
sub lightning audio 500 watt 12 forgot that model numder too
6X9 amp 2 chanel 80 watt black hawk AMP2020
sub amp 2 chanel 340 watt dual XAF340
Total cost $328.92
Beats every one.
Are you trying to say its better than everyones or that for the price its better than everyones?
Becuase if your claiming either find what i have then subtract 10 dollars from what yours cost and thats how much mine was. Soo either way your last comment isn't true. Plus there are two Iasca Champs in this forum and i dno't think a Dual amp is gonna hang with that.
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Originally posted by Monstour:
I think that depends on the amp thats pumping out the 1800watts. A cheaper amp won't hit as hard as an more expensive amp, not to say mines is more powerful than anybody else's, but my altenator wouldn't be able to run any more
Ehh...an amp producing 1800w will produce more than a cheap amp that can't produce 1800w. But two amps producing 1800w will draw similar current assuming they are of similar topology.
A class A/B amp producing 1800w will use substantially more power than a class D amp producing the same amount of power.
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Originally posted by Monstour:
Originally posted by GregDawg:
JVC HU 160 watts
stock speakers
2 12" pioneer subs
2 15" Rockford Punch P1's
2 900 watt mono channel Rockford Amps
People thought it would sound bad. Well, news flash, it doesn't! I know, quantity doesn't necessarily make quality but it sounds damn good if u ask me. This [censored] bumbs, hard. If I listen to it full blast for like 10 min, I'll get a headache, I'm addicted to bass. I have my 15's facing the back, and my 12's facing forward with the seats folded down. The only problems is, with the 15" box being almost as tall as the trunk, I don't feel it lets enough of the sound into the cabin like it should. But it sounds nice to me, thats all the matter, oh yea...and that I make people's heads turn!
how are u powering ur system, do u have an extra battery or do u have some capacitors
Nope no extra batteries or caps. Just ran it normally. My lights dim, you can tell, but its not that bad. I also have to have my car turned on if I really want to bump it. Not because it'll drain my battery but because if the car isn't on and I turn it up, my 2 15's pop alot. I guess the 15's need all the power they can get. Otherwise, never had a problem in the year plus I've had a system. Except for a major power surge that shorted out my underbodies and fried my old 15in Rockford HE. Other than that, its good.
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eclipse 5423HU
JL 300/4
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-boston pro series 4x6 plates
JL 500/1
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2x Stingpro 1.5f digital caps
optima redtop
monster wiring & voodoo 200amp fuse
its in a full custom setup built be me and my boy and sounds great IMO and according to others. hits pretty damn hard with rap and very clean and tight with punk and stuff. got me a trophy at a local show. check out page 4 or 5 in my sig.
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Old...
HU: Sony CDX-F7705X
Front Speakers: Infinity 6500CS Components
Rear Speakers: Pioneer 5x7s (don't know the model #)
Front SPKR amp: Boss BA-3000
Subwoofer: 15" Kicker Solobaric L7
Sub amp: JBL 1200.1
Accessories: Prestige 3 way crossover, Rockford 1 Farad Cap, Audiopipe Ground Loop Isolator, Audiopipe wiring/fusehodlers/distribution block, streetwires battery terminals
Verdict: My rear deck flaps up and down when the bass hits, it's toooo much for me. So...
New Setup...
HU: Pioneer AVH-P6400CD
Front Speakers: Same
Rear Speakers: Same
Front Speaker Amp: JBL 180.2
Subwoofer: Dont Know yet lol
Sub Amp: JBL 600.1 maybe
Accessories: Modded Xbox with 120gb HD (hee-hee!), TView 10.4 roofmount Monitor, wiring, same crossover, cap, blah blah blah...
this will be finished in about 2 months, tops.
1999 SE White
AVH-P6500DVD
Infinity Reference 6500CS
Pioneer 5x7s
Punch 360a2
Punch 500a2
Adire Tempest in a custom sealed 3.4cuft box
Modded Xbox
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4 pioneer 6x8's
jbl 1200.1 running at 4 ohms
2 12" diamond cm3's ported @ 38 hz
knu wiring
sounds okay, but could sound a lot better
especially the highs
blue 95 se MTX
alpine 9805
2 diamond 12" cm3's tuned to 38 hz
4 pioneer 3-ways(POS)
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how do the CM3's sound ported?
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Originally posted by 2deep2:
Pioneer P9 combo
Behringer DSP 8000
XTANT 2200ix
Focal TLR Tweeters
SEAS W21EX002 8" woofers
Image Dynamics Custom ID SPL 15" subs
Sounds ok
Yeah, it's ok... mine is ok too, but is a little better.
Head Unit: JVC KD-SH77
EQ: PPI DEQ-230
Amps: Xtant X604 (2 of them)
Front stage:
..Mid/tweet: Xtant XIS2.5
..Subs: JL Audio 8IB4
SPL subs: Xtant X1244
See pics at www.sounddomain.com/id/soundqsvt
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1998 T-Red SVT Contour #3088
2001 IASCA Pro Street 1-600 Champion
2002 SLAP Pro Street 1-600 Champion
2002 MECA SQL Master Class Champion
2003 IASCA StreetX 1-600 Champion
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Originally posted by SoundQ SVT:
Originally posted by 2deep2:
Pioneer P9 combo
Behringer DSP 8000
XTANT 2200ix
Focal TLR Tweeters
SEAS W21EX002 8" woofers
Image Dynamics Custom ID SPL 15" subs
Sounds ok
Yeah, it's ok... mine is ok too, but is a little better.
Head Unit: JVC KD-SH77
EQ: PPI DEQ-230
Amps: Xtant X604 (2 of them)
Front stage:
..Mid/tweet: Xtant XIS2.5
..Subs: JL Audio 8IB4
SPL subs: Xtant X1244
See pics at www.sounddomain.com/id/soundqsvt
Luckily Bob's getting married and I need to give him a present, so "Yes Bob, you are correct your is better"
I will concede this fact until next years SVR, then it on 
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2002 IASCA SQ Ult Ama 601+ World Champion runner up
2002 SLAP dBQ Champion
2000 USAC SQ World Champion
2002 USACi SQ World Champion
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Elcipse 8443
What can I say... IMO the cleanest HU out there without going to a balanced output.
Boston Z6's
Also IMO the most natural sounding component set there is.
JL450/4
JL quality running the Z6's in bi-amped fashion. Very clean, and very loud.
Eclipse 88122
For me it seemed to be the sub that could do it all. Play deep and long because of it's excursion capabilitites. And still be very punchy like 10's.
JL1000/1
JL quality again. No messin around just getting it done.
Monster Cable
Of course
Dynomat
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Originally posted by jaxsvt:
Monster Cable Of course
02 Mustang GT... Tuned by Nelsons. Low 12's, anyone?
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Originally posted by jaxsvt:
Elcipse 8443
What can I say... IMO the cleanest HU out there without going to a balanced output.
Boston Z6's
Also IMO the most natural sounding component set there is.
JL450/4
JL quality running the Z6's in bi-amped fashion. Very clean, and very loud.
Eclipse 88122
For me it seemed to be the sub that could do it all. Play deep and long because of it's excursion capabilitites. And still be very punchy like 10's.
JL1000/1
JL quality again. No messin around just getting it done.
Monster Cable
Of course
Dynomat
Just weighs me down.
I can't believe that you think your stuff sounds the cleanest out there. Hmm Very interesting. lol 
Cool setup any pics?
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I just put a el cheapo System in the Merkur today
Pioneer AVH-6500 6.5indash touch screen bla bla you know the rest.
Primier Class A powering a Cerwin vega series 10, PS2 you know the normal stuff you put in a car that looks like crap!
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Panasonic 3400 HU
stock speakers
soon to come:
pioneer, kenwood or infinitys in the doors
2 rockford power 15's or 2 jl w7's
not sure what type of amp
Metallic Steel Blue 99 SE Sport ATX
college= few mods 
Infinity Kappas just added 
I have no secondaries! SELL ME YOUR WORKING IMRC box!!!
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1-Alpine CDA-9835
4-POlk/MOMO MMCC570 5x7 carbon fiber two way with external crossover
1-Eclipse 12" dual voice coil aluminum sub
1-Rockford fosgate P3001 mono sub
The Sub and Amp are in a custom box and the Factory amp has been bypassed
I think my system sounds pretty good, and I am very pleased with it. I considered amplifying the interior speakers, but I don't really listen to my music that loud.
Future plans include a few tv's, XM radio, and a PS2
Originally posted by Who the F are You?:
does your family tree not have any branches on it?
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I invite you to come over and listen for yourself. Are there good sounding alternatives for less money - yes. Do they sound this good - not a chance in hell.
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Originally posted by jaxsvt:
I invite you to come over and listen for yourself. Are there good sounding alternatives for less money - yes. Do they sound this good - not a chance in hell.
Jack
does the monster cable make it all sound better?
02 Mustang GT... Tuned by Nelsons. Low 12's, anyone?
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I think soo.. Monster Cable is Amazing!!!  Its cool. I'll save the gas and take a trip into my garage and turn on mine.
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Does Dynomat just weigh you down? It fixed a lot of the rattles in my trunk.
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I think it just weighs me down because the application of which didn't solve the problem. The rear deck lid is the culprit. It vibrates so much that the 3rd brake light hits the rear window. A plastic wedge would've done more to stop the annoying vibration than all the dynomat I put in. Now the Dynomat has decreases some trunk lid resonance but the front of the trunk has been lited up because of the sheer volume of air that is being pushed by these subs. Excursion - what a great thing. At this point I probabaly need to realign my trunk.
SteedaSVT - Yes I do like Monster Cable.... The amount of engineering that goes into their products is just overkill... and just the way I like it. When you start investing serious money into your system, audiophile grade equipment, you really start to appreciate music. I now listen to more Vocal and Jazz instead of rap because you can hear the fingers move across the fretts of a guitar. All my old cd's are like new cd's because of all the detail you can hear now. Can you hear Dido roll her tongue around when she's next to the mic? Tell me, when you close your eyes and listen to music in you car(in your garage) can you hear Celine Dion move from the right side of the stage to the left and then back towards the band??... because I can. Pictures are up in the registry but they are not up-to-date... At that time I had a JLe4300 working the Boston SL80's. Nice stuff... just limited in capabilities. Now I don't mean to insult you equipment, or your expertise in this area of car audio... But at this time, according to your posts, I've spent more on Dynomat and Monster Cable than you have on your entire system.
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You are obviously a newbie to this forum.
a few things Monster Cable isn't any better than say Streetwires ZN5.0's or the Stinger Dream series. Good RCA is a GOOD RCA nothing more. As far as power wire  thats about all i can say. Now your little ignorant comment about your dynomat and wires costing more than my system try again. And ya i could hear all the little details when i had my system in my SHO. Eclipse 5442, Eclipse 2101 EQ, Soundstream SVX4, Soundstream Picasso Class A 4 channel, Soundstream reference 500, Soundstream Exact 6.3 Comp's in front and exact 6x8's in the rear then 2 Soundstream Exact 12's(blue basket) with streetwires througout. Im pretty sure that your wires and dyno didn't cost more than system. Ive had subs that cost almost as much as your system.
Before you start saying your stuff amazing with your 12 post's and what not, i suggest that you do a little searching even in the same thread as this one as it states what most of the CEGr's have.
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Monster = Streetwires = KnuKonceptz = Coat hanger with RCA terminals.
The coat hangar won't have the noise rejection capabilities of the others and doesn't look quite as good. That is why I would recommend getting Knukonceptz. Good quality, looks great, sounds as good as any other copper and best of all, it's uber affordable for the quality of materials.
If you want to spend a lot of money on speaker wire and patch cables, do so for material quality and showiness. If you are doing it for sound quality, your priorities are in the wrong place. Oh, I suppose if you think it sounds better, appeasing your mind is a good reason, as well. Just don't tell me your wiring makes your system sounds better.
Always remember this, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, and this is something you won't be able to find. (there are exceptions like MIT patch cables that intentionally alter the signal but I can't fathom how a person could logically argue that the response is more accurate by intentionally changing it.
The bottom line is that if your system makes you happy, more power to you and you should highly recommend the equipment you own from personal experience. Don't start making claims of sonic superiority that isn't there, and if you do, make sure you back it up with a little more than "Monster Cable spends a lot of money on marketing...err....research!"
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Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
I invite you to come over and listen for yourself. Are there good sounding alternatives for less money - yes. Do they sound this good - not a chance in hell.
Jack
does the monster cable make it all sound better?
*casts bait and waits*
BTW, I would be willing to bet I could equal that SQ for 50% of the cost, maybe even exceed the performance. Do you mind saying how much you spent since prices can vary so substantially online and locally?
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Dave, was it you that wired a home theater system with lamp cords?
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Originally posted by dnewma04:
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02 Mustang GT... Tuned by Nelsons. Low 12's, anyone?
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Originally posted by dnewma04:
Monster = Streetwires = KnuKonceptz = Coat hanger with RCA terminals.
The coat hangar won't have the noise rejection capabilities of the others and doesn't look quite as good. That is why I would recommend getting Knukonceptz. Good quality, looks great, sounds as good as any other copper and best of all, it's uber affordable for the quality of materials.
If you want to spend a lot of money on speaker wire and patch cables, do so for material quality and showiness. If you are doing it for sound quality, your priorities are in the wrong place. Oh, I suppose if you think it sounds better, appeasing your mind is a good reason, as well. Just don't tell me your wiring makes your system sounds better.
Always remember this, extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof, and this is something you won't be able to find. (there are exceptions like MIT patch cables that intentionally alter the signal but I can't fathom how a person could logically argue that the response is more accurate by intentionally changing it.
The bottom line is that if your system makes you happy, more power to you and you should highly recommend the equipment you own from personal experience. Don't start making claims of sonic superiority that isn't there, and if you do, make sure you back it up with a little more than "Monster Cable spends a lot of money on marketing...err....research!"
allow me to condense and simplify this for you.
there's nothing wrong with monster cables. but if you think they make your system sound better (i.e. hearing dildo roll her tongue around) then there is something wrong with you.
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I once cut a Huge extension cord up to Use it as speaker wire for my Strokers
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I need wired that will compensate for my 7998's messed up CD drive. Maybe $700 RCAs will fix it! 
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Children... let's have a little chat,
SteedaSVT -
+If Streetwires and Monster are no diferent in quality than why do you diss them on your post on page 5?
+You said your system cost $10 less than AquaFBody's on page 3
+I never said that Monster made my system all that great. You, MXRacerCam and dnewma04 eluded to that. What I did say was that I really liked monster cable.... period. The amount of "engineering"(look close guys) not marketing or research is what I appreciate.
So far all I've seen from you, the obvious "Hard-Core CEG'r"
is a lot of angry replies to poeple's posts. If this makes you a "true member" or something of this community then you can have it all to yourself... it can be your little secret. My 12 posts have nothing to do with what I know about car audio and you trying to guage my experience in this field by the number of my post just confirms your ignorance. Steeda, I'm sure you know a lot about car audio but I'm not about to get into a pissing match over this. Grow up, read what I wrote and respond to them in kind if you do have a response to them.
MXRacerCam -
I never said that Monster Cable let me hear things in music like Dido rolling her tongue around. I said that audiophile grade equipment let's me hear that. Wheter it's Monster cable, streetwires whatever.... my wires are not a weak link in my system.
Like I said before - Please feel free to drive up to Auburn Maine and listen for yourself and prove me wrong if you can because all this "bench racing" with your audio equipment isn't proving anything other than the idea that you can influence people by the number of posts you have made.
Get some rest guys... you'll need it for class.
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Originally posted by jaxsvt:
Children... let's have a little chat,Quote:
Ah yes...the "call them children" tactic, nice touch. The creativity displayed in your subtle insult is truly tragic. Now, to get back to the point of the post, my response was not meant to in anyway flame you, please re-read it.
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+If Streetwires and Monster are no diferent in quality than why do you diss them on your post on page 5?
+You said your system cost $10 less than AquaFBody's on page 3
Don't let Steeda get to you. He has owned a lot of equipment including some CV Strokers (which IMO, were outrageously overpriced) but still cost above 1000.00 each early on in their entry into the car audio scene. It wasn't more than a few years ago that Streetwires owned the competition audio scene. Monster cable was a distinct minority but there are quite a few factors in that not the least of which is reputation. Remember when a winning car was virtually guarenteed with the following combo: Alpine source, PPI amps, MB Q components, JL Audio subs, audiocontrol processors? That was the same era that streetwires dominated. Anyway, moving on.
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+I never said that Monster made my system all that great. You, MXRacerCam and dnewma04 eluded to that. What I did say was that I really liked monster cable.... period. The amount of "engineering"(look close guys) not marketing or research is what I appreciate.
Another subtle jab. You may not have said directly that Monster Cable made you system great, but you did insinuate on a couple of occasions that lesser brand wire could compromise the system. The engineering behind Monster's wires is sound. The claims of sonic superiority (especially in speaker wire) is ridiculous...wait, that is not a strong enough word but it's late and I don't feel like getting the Roget's out.
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So far all I've seen from you, the obvious "Hard-Core CEG'r"
is a lot of angry replies to poeple's posts.
You seem to be fitting right in with this particular post. Your condescending tone is actually kind of cute. Oh wait...i think i just played your own game....;)
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you a "true member" or something of this community then you can have it all to yourself... it can be your little secret.
This entire site has been irrelevant for years, so yours or anyone elses presence here couldn't possibly matter any less.
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My 12 posts have nothing to do with what I know about car audio and you trying to guage my experience in this field by the number of my post just confirms your ignorance.
I 100% agree. Post counts mean nothing. But, then again, by referring to us as "children" you are doing the same thing. Making a judgement on a group of people without knowing anything about them. Double standard?
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Steeda, I'm sure you know a lot about car audio but I'm not about to get into a pissing match over this. Grow up, read what I wrote and respond to them in kind if you do have a response to them.
I don't think anyone wants to run this thread downhill anymore than it has already.
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my wires are not a weak link in my system.
I agree, but if you used 16 guage zip cord for speaker wire, your system wouldnt' sound any different than it does now. So, even in that case the wires wouldn't be the weak point in your system.
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Like I said before - Please feel free to drive up to Auburn Maine and listen for yourself and prove me wrong if you can because all this "bench racing" with your audio equipment isn't proving anything other than the idea that you can influence people by the number of posts you have made.
And what point would listening to your system possibly have? I don't think anyone disagrees your system sounds quite good. I believe that some people may have been a bit annoyed by the "Eclipse 8443 greatest sound HU of all time" type of reviews of your own equipment. It came across as fairly arrogant whether it was intended or not. (I don't need to re-read your post, i know I didn't quote you word for word). When you were questioned about your choices, your response that essentially said that you had the best system that money could buy for each of your components, you didn't do anything to quell the elitism you hinted at earlier.
Again, the number of posts couldn't possibly mean anything less. This forum has been decidedly anti-voodoo when it comes to audio equipment. I have done my best to dispell as many audio myths as I can over the years and this forum is no different than others I have participated on. Things like
"my wires sound better than your wires"
"underpowering kills speakers"
"you need a capacitor!"
"my amp has great imaging and presence"
"bose makes the best speakers"
and other such nonsense will be met semi-harshly, because most of the people on this forum no better than to believe it and will try to crush it before some poor nube starts to believe it.
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I will get some rest. Everyday is class for me, I guess I'm not old enough to know it all yet.
Good night.
Dave
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Well written denewma04. I applaud your ability to respond without letting the conversation get any more "base".
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"Just don't tell me your wiring makes your system sounds better. "
What nobody here believes that $10,000 per meter silver speakers wires makes the speakers sound better.
come on some body must believe that
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Originally posted by jaxsvt:
SteedaSVT -
+You said your system cost $10 less than AquaFBody's on page 3
Get some rest guys... you'll need it for class.
Jack
I think Monster is overpriced#1 and yes even with my fatty discount it is.
Becuase my system cost me less doesn't mean anything. I get everything brand new and i disclose what i paid for it after i sell all of it. I get stuff at Dealer cost or below. And as many SEmich CEG'r's know "I DON'T Pay retail." My Brand new Soundstream Exacts where 75 dollars each. The only reason I started ripping you is the way you posted everything.
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Originally posted by jaxsvt:
Well written denewma04. I applaud your ability to respond without letting the conversation get any more "base".
Jack
and you don't attempt to refute him either. is it safe to assume then that you are agreeing with his points?
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Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
Well written denewma04. I applaud your ability to respond without letting the conversation get any more "base".
Jack
and you don't attempt to refute him either. is it safe to assume then that you are agreeing with his points?
NO it is not safe to assume that. At least not on all his points.
"Another subtle jab. You may not have said directly that Monster Cable made you system great, but you did insinuate on a couple of occasions that lesser brand wire could compromise the system. The engineering behind Monster's wires is sound. The claims of sonic superiority (especially in speaker wire) is ridiculous...wait, that is not a strong enough word but it's late and I don't feel like getting the Roget's out."
-I have never insinuated in any of my posts that a lesser brand of any sort would compromise the system - although it is a true point. I also never made mention of speaker wire in my car or of any claim of superiority to another speaker wire. But if it makes him feel better to rebut a statement that wasn't made by me so he could have something to do as a moderator... so be it.
"I 100% agree. Post counts mean nothing. But, then again, by referring to us as "children" you are doing the same thing. Making a judgement on a group of people without knowing anything about them. Double standard?"
-I rest my case on this one. Both yourself and Steeda responding about the Monster Cable is beyond me... If it is an inside joke, go ahead, laugh it up. But from my perspective it was a childish response to a statement that was never made.
"And what point would listening to your system possibly have? I don't think anyone disagrees your system sounds quite good. I believe that some people may have been a bit annoyed by the "Eclipse 8443 greatest sound HU of all time" type of reviews of your own equipment. It came across as fairly arrogant whether it was intended or not. (I don't need to re-read your post, i know I didn't quote you word for word). When you were questioned about your choices, your response that essentially said that you had the best system that money could buy for each of your components, you didn't do anything to quell the elitism you hinted at earlier."
-I stand firm with my opinion that the 8443 from Eclipse is the cleanest HU around... without going to a balanced output. How many other decks out there can say they have a 55ohm impedence level at 8volts? Basicaly what that means is that the signal flows from the source to the amp virtually unrestricted.
-No one asked me about my choices for my system. The only questions posed were if I had any pitures, and if Monster Cable made it sound better. Both of these questions were addressed. If you feel as though from what you read is in my car makes me "elite" in some sort of way then I say Thank you. Now I'm supposed "quell the elitism you hinted at earlier". What is this crap?! I never hinted to anything - and I'm not about to make everyone feel equal by toning down the "elitism". This is life guys... This isn't elementary school soccer where everyone goes home a winner with ribbons and no hurt feelings. What?, am I supposed to make it "fair" for everone?
denewma04,
This entire site has been irrelevant for years, so yours or anyone elses presence here couldn't possibly matter any less
-Man that is sad. You are a moderator of this forum and you bash it yourself! I don't need to say anything else on that.
"BTW, I would be willing to bet I could equal that SQ for 50% of the cost, maybe even exceed the performance. Do you mind saying how much you spent since prices can vary so substantially online and locally?"
-I paid retail.
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Originally posted by jaxsvt:
-Man that is sad. You are a moderator of this forum and you bash it yourself! I don't need to say anything else on that.
I agree, it is sad what it has deteriorated to over the last 2 years or so.
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"BTW, I would be willing to bet I could equal that SQ for 50% of the cost, maybe even exceed the performance. Do you mind saying how much you spent since prices can vary so substantially online and locally?"
-I paid retail.
Jack
Jack, let me make it clear that I am not bashing your system but I can understand your defensiveness. Adding a "In my experience" or "In my opinion" would help the presentation of information. The 8443 is a fine HU and if you choose to send you signal in the analog domain, it is way above average (especially if you have noise problems where the voltage can help). It helps even more if you have one of those rare amps that can accept that input voltage. Is your system outstanding? very likely. Is it the best that your money could have bought? very unlikely but it doesn't matter as long as you think it's worthwhile.
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Originally posted by jaxsvt:
-I have never insinuated in any of my posts that a lesser brand of any sort would compromise the system - although it is a true point.
no it's not. there's no proof. it's a bunch of crap.
if your system is setup properly in the first place, theres no need for any special cabling. and since yours is obviously so superior, you don't need it as well.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
-I rest my case on this one. Both yourself and Steeda responding about the Monster Cable is beyond me... If it is an inside joke, go ahead, laugh it up. But from my perspective it was a childish response to a statement that was never made.
it wasn't that you made the statement, you clearly inferred it, however. and most ceg audio forum members have little tolerance for perpetuating audio myths. if you take offense to that, i'm sorry.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
- Now I'm supposed "quell the elitism you hinted at earlier". What is this crap?! I never hinted to anything - and I'm not about to make everyone feel equal by toning down the "elitism". This is life guys... This isn't elementary school soccer where everyone goes home a winner with ribbons and no hurt feelings. What?, am I supposed to make it "fair" for everone?
but we're expected to do it for you? you truly are the king of double standards.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
This entire site has been irrelevant for years, so yours or anyone elses presence here couldn't possibly matter any less
-Man that is sad. You are a moderator of this forum and you bash it yourself! I don't need to say anything else on that.
instead of running your mouth about daves "bashing" the forum, maybe you should THINK about his statement. the contour has not been in production since 2000. thus, this site is dedicated to a deceased platform. hence the irrlevance.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
"BTW, I would be willing to bet I could equal that SQ for 50% of the cost, maybe even exceed the performance. Do you mind saying how much you spent since prices can vary so substantially online and locally?"
-I paid retail.
Jack
how about this, since you're so intent on everyone listening to your system. you tally up how much you've spent on your system. dave and i will design and build one for appx. half the price, and we will enter both cars in a sanctioned sq event. i'd say a $3,000.00 bet to who scores higher in the sq points would make it interesting. what do you say?
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Im not cool enough to be in this design  Bastard!
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Originally posted by SteedaSVT:
Im not cool enough to be in this design Bastard!
You like all that mainstream crap, you aren't invited.
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Originally posted by SteedaSVT:
Im not cool enough to be in this design Bastard!
if it was a matter of being cool, dave couldn't help either.
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Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
-I have never insinuated in any of my posts that a lesser brand of any sort would compromise the system - although it is a true point.
no it's not. there's no proof. it's a bunch of crap.
if your system is setup properly in the first place, theres no need for any special cabling. and since yours is obviously so superior, you don't need it as well.
++Are you telling me that unshielded Lightning Audio cable is as good as Streetwires ZN5.0's??? I don't think so. Part of properly setting up a system, and I think everyone will agree is having the proper wire for your requirements.
Whether it's the kid who just wants some bass or someone like me who wants it all and doesn't really care if it costs twice as much.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
-I rest my case on this one. Both yourself and Steeda responding about the Monster Cable is beyond me... If it is an inside joke, go ahead, laugh it up. But from my perspective it was a childish response to a statement that was never made.
it wasn't that you made the statement, you clearly inferred it, however. and most ceg audio forum members have little tolerance for perpetuating audio myths. if you take offense to that, i'm sorry.
++Dude, was it "clear" or "inferred" make up your mind as they are opposite in meaning in this context. Kinda like "Oxy-moron". I can certainly agree that the audio forum members have little tollerance for perpetuating myth... So, what myth is it that I am prepetuating...???
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
- Now I'm supposed "quell the elitism you hinted at earlier". What is this crap?! I never hinted to anything - and I'm not about to make everyone feel equal by toning down the "elitism". This is life guys... This isn't elementary school soccer where everyone goes home a winner with ribbons and no hurt feelings. What?, am I supposed to make it "fair" for everone?
but we're expected to do it for you? you truly are the king of double standards.
++I never asked anyone to do anything. Please...
"You are truly the king of double standards" Get over yourself MX. Unless you have something specific to say reguarding the post at hand - just be quiet and observe.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
This entire site has been irrelevant for years, so yours or anyone elses presence here couldn't possibly matter any less
-Man that is sad. You are a moderator of this forum and you bash it yourself! I don't need to say anything else on that.
instead of running your mouth about daves "bashing" the forum, maybe you should THINK about his statement. the contour has not been in production since 2000. thus, this site is dedicated to a deceased platform. hence the irrlevance.
++OMG you're right!!! The contour has been dead since 2000. But we're talking about car audio, and since we're still talking about it I doubt that it is dead. Hell, I know that you have a good grasp of car audio so... hardly dead or irrelevant.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
"BTW, I would be willing to bet I could equal that SQ for 50% of the cost, maybe even exceed the performance. Do you mind saying how much you spent since prices can vary so substantially online and locally?"
-I paid retail.
Jack
how about this, since you're so intent on everyone listening to your system. you tally up how much you've spent on your system. dave and i will design and build one for appx. half the price, and we will enter both cars in a sanctioned sq event. i'd say a $3,000.00 bet to who scores higher in the sq points would make it interesting. what do you say?
++I don't care if you listen to it or not. And who cares about the money? This money issue has been harped on enough already. Did I ever say that money was an issue? Did I ever say that you couldn't build a good system for less money? About the only person who seems to be caring about the money is MX and dnewma04. Do you guys need some money or something?? Are you broke? I'd be glad to help out a fellow CEG'r if they could prove to me that they could pay it back.
++I've spent around $4,500 retail including tax and labor. I'd say that the money would definitley make it interesting but unneccessary. I don't need to take your money(by the sounds of it.. you need it more than I do). How about just bragging rights... would that work for you? I guess all there would be is a couple stipulations. You build your system but you can't use any of the equipment that I use. So, No Boston Acoustics, JLAudio, Eclipse, Dynomat and let's not forget MONSTER CABLE. Don't forget... you're gonna build it for half the cost of mine. Don't forget to pay yourselves(master installers) for your time as well. Let's see 10 hours at $50 and hour - a modest fee for the obvious audio gueniuses that you two are. And tax on the equipment(retail cost here guys) none of this deep employee discount stuff. So I figure you have about $2,000 to spend.
denewma04
"Jack, let me make it clear that I am not bashing your system but I can understand your defensiveness. Adding a "In my experience" or "In my opinion" would help the presentation of information. The 8443 is a fine HU and if you "
++Thank you for not bashing my system. If you look on the top of page 5 in my original post you will see that I did use In My Opinion(IMO).
That's it for tonight guys... Though the "fencing" is stimulating I need to get some sleep. So farewell untill tomorrow for Round 3!
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Car Audio Myth - Certain brands of wiring will "sound" better than others.
Copper is copper is copper. Anybody that pays more for Brand X (which is loved in the audiofool circles) is wasting their money on Company X's advertising budget.
Disclaimer: This is of course assuming equal gauges, lengths, etc...
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Originally posted by jaxsvt:
++Are you telling me that unshielded Lightning Audio cable is as good as Streetwires ZN5.0's??? I don't think so. Part of properly setting up a system, and I think everyone will agree is having the proper wire for your requirements.
Whether it's the kid who just wants some bass or someone like me who wants it all and doesn't really care if it costs twice as much.
sheilding is ONLY neccessary if there is noise inherent in the system design. it's simple. the only thing that needs to be proper is the type and size. otherwise, trying to eliminate noise by purchasing expensive wire is akin to putting band-aids over herpes sores. it may seem to help mask the problem, but it's not actually doing anything to cure it.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
++Dude, was it "clear" or "inferred" make up your mind as they are opposite in meaning in this context. Kinda like "Oxy-moron". I can certainly agree that the audio forum members have little tollerance for perpetuating myth... So, what myth is it that I am prepetuating...???
your lack of a firm grasp on the usage of the english language doesn't suprise me. the two words are not opposite.
you are clearly inferring (insinuating)that more expensive cables help your system sound better. which is one of the biggest myths in audio, especially car audio. if it's not a myth, prove it. show us some evidence.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
++I never asked anyone to do anything. Please...
"You are truly the king of double standards" Get over yourself MX. Unless you have something specific to say reguarding the post at hand - just be quiet and observe.
i didn't say you asked for anything sparky. your whining about it speaks for itself. and i have no need to get over myself. i'm not the one on here telling everyone his stuff is the best, am i? as for specifics.... your opinions regarding wiring are simply a product of clever marketing and a litany of mis-information that has been perpetuated by know-nothings who have only hearsay to back up their positions.
is that specific enough for you?
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
++I don't care if you listen to it or not.
thats funny, you mentioned that we should come up and listen to it twice in the last two pages.... i think perhaps you do, in fact, care.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
And who cares about the money? This money issue has been harped on enough already. Did I ever say that money was an issue? Did I ever say that you couldn't build a good system for less money?
i could care less how much you've spent on your system. there are more than a few of us here who have spent exceptional amounts of money in the pursuit of excellence in the arena of automotive audio reproduction. but it's our hobby, and not an area of bragging rights or one-upmanship.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
Did I ever say that you couldn't build a good system for less money?
actually, you said:
"I invite you to come over and listen for yourself. Are there good sounding alternatives for less money - yes. Do they sound this good - not a chance in hell.
and that would be our point of contention. because i think there is a pretty good chance, right here in good old michigan, that it would sound better.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
About the only person who seems to be caring about the money is MX and dnewma04. Do you guys need some money or something?? Are you broke? I'd be glad to help out a fellow CEG'r if they could prove to me that they could pay it back.
it's not about the money, it's about proving you wrong. but i'm not going to spend time and money to do so without getting paid (and believe me, we would get paid) in the end. otherwise, i'm not going to spend the money to just shut up another keyboard commando.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
I guess all there would be is a couple stipulations. You build your system but you can't use any of the equipment that I use. So, No Boston Acoustics
crap! no harsh tweeters? how will we win???
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
JLAudio
nice but exceptionally overpriced.
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and let's not forget MONSTER CABLE.
i'll use wire from the hardware store. how about that?
Don't forget... you're gonna build it for half the cost of mine. Don't forget to pay yourselves(master installers) for your time as well. Let's see 10 hours at $50 and hour - a modest fee for the obvious audio gueniuses that you two are. And tax on the equipment(retail cost here guys) none of this deep employee discount stuff. So I figure you have about $2,000 to spend.
i won't be paying myself because i'm not an installer, nor is dave. and neither of us get any sort of employee discount. but that doesn't mean we are going to pay retail either. just because you're a sucker doesn't mean everyone else has to be as well.
since you won't do this for money (as you have nothing to lose if you don't), this is all just conjecture.
again, as dave stated, nobody is bashing your system. just contending a few of your points is all.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
Whether it's the kid who just wants some bass or someone like me who wants it all and doesn't really care if it costs twice as much.
i guess thats where the difference lies. perhaps you just feel better about your system design if you spend extra money on cabling. the rest of us simply know better.
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Holy crap... these posts keep getting longer and longer....
My setup....
- Stok bose system... sounds awesome! (compared to other stock systems I have heard)
Still workin on getting my system in the damn camaro, no space for anything fancy.
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Originally posted by MxRacerCam:
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
++Are you telling me that unshielded Lightning Audio cable is as good as Streetwires ZN5.0's??? I don't think so. Part of properly setting up a system, and I think everyone will agree is having the proper wire for your requirements.
Whether it's the kid who just wants some bass or someone like me who wants it all and doesn't really care if it costs twice as much.
sheilding is ONLY neccessary if there is noise inherent in the system design. it's simple. the only thing that needs to be proper is the type and size. otherwise, trying to eliminate noise by purchasing expensive wire is akin to putting band-aids over herpes sores. it may seem to help mask the problem, but it's not actually doing anything to cure it.
--Answer the question. You posed it. I never said my car didn't have the possibilty to have problems but that I took steps to avoid them at a later time. And dude!, whatever it is that you do with your herpes should be left off the boards.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
++Dude, was it "clear" or "inferred" make up your mind as they are opposite in meaning in this context. Kinda like "Oxy-moron". I can certainly agree that the audio forum members have little tollerance for perpetuating myth... So, what myth is it that I am prepetuating...???
your lack of a firm grasp on the usage of the english language doesn't suprise me. the two words are not opposite.
you are clearly inferring (insinuating)that more expensive cables help your system sound better. which is one of the biggest myths in audio, especially car audio. if it's not a myth, prove it. show us some evidence.
--There you go again. clear=without a doubt, inferring=to conclude by reasoning(which you can't do). FOR THE FINAL TIME. I HAVE NEVER SAID THAT MONSTER CABLE WAS THE BEST OUT THERE!!! NOR DID I "INFER" THAT IT GIVES MY SYSTEM SOME SORT OF SUPERIORITY. If you chose to continue along this line of crap about what wire whoever uses please be prepared to talk to yourself.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
++I never asked anyone to do anything. Please...
"You are truly the king of double standards" Get over yourself MX. Unless you have something specific to say reguarding the post at hand - just be quiet and observe.
i didn't say you asked for anything sparky. your whining about it speaks for itself. and i have no need to get over myself. i'm not the one on here telling everyone his stuff is the best, am i? as for specifics.... your opinions regarding wiring are simply a product of clever marketing and a litany of mis-information that has been perpetuated by know-nothings who have only hearsay to back up their positions.
is that specific enough for you?
Are you drunk? Here you go again on wiring. Who cares?
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++I don't care if you listen to it or not.
thats funny, you mentioned that we should come up and listen to it twice in the last two pages.... i think perhaps you do, in fact, care.
--No, "I invite you to come over and listen for yourself. Are there good sounding alternatives for less money - yes. Do they sound this good - not a chance in hell" This is for your own edification(look this up, you'll need to).
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
And who cares about the money? This money issue has been harped on enough already. Did I ever say that money was an issue? Did I ever say that you couldn't build a good system for less money?
i could care less how much you've spent on your system. there are more than a few of us here who have spent exceptional amounts of money in the pursuit of excellence in the arena of automotive audio reproduction. but it's our hobby, and not an area of bragging rights or one-upmanship.
-- The point of how much I spent was to form a cap as to which you could spend. That is if you are still up to your challenge.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
Did I ever say that you couldn't build a good system for less money?
actually, you said:
"I invite you to come over and listen for yourself. Are there good sounding alternatives for less money - yes. Do they sound this good - not a chance in hell.
and that would be our point of contention. because i think there is a pretty good chance, right here in good old michigan, that it would sound better.
-- I doubt it. I've been to plenty of competitions in the Northeast and you can't get better sound without spending more money. I ask everyone of the competitors how much they spent to get it the way they like it and it has ALWAYS been more than I have spent. Besides what do you know about how my system sounds... you won't even get off your butt to find out unless I wave some cash infront of you.
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
About the only person who seems to be caring about the money is MX and dnewma04. Do you guys need some money or something?? Are you broke? I'd be glad to help out a fellow CEG'r if they could prove to me that they could pay it back.
it's not about the money, it's about proving you wrong. but i'm not going to spend time and money to do so without getting paid (and believe me, we would get paid) in the end. otherwise, i'm not going to spend the money to just shut up another keyboard commando.
--Yada Yada, so says you. It's about proving me wrong... I thought it was your hobby?? "another keyboard commando" you come up with that one yourself? How many of these people(keyboard commandos) come on these boards all gunning for you? Face it. You wouldn't get paid - not because I don't have the cash but because you don't have the balls to come over here and get the whipping that's owed to you. I've invited you twice now. Now I'm calling you out. Put up or shut up or else you're the "keyboard commando".
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
I guess all there would be is a couple stipulations. You build your system but you can't use any of the equipment that I use. So, No Boston Acoustics
crap! no harsh tweeters? how will we win???
--What, you gonna use Focal? The Z6's are the only set to beat Focals.
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JLAudio
nice but exceptionally overpriced.
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and let's not forget MONSTER CABLE.
i'll use wire from the hardware store. how about that?
--Funny that's how Monster started too... Hum, maybee you're onto something.
Don't forget... you're gonna build it for half the cost of mine. Don't forget to pay yourselves(master installers) for your time as well. Let's see 10 hours at $50 and hour - a modest fee for the obvious audio gueniuses that you two are. And tax on the equipment(retail cost here guys) none of this deep employee discount stuff. So I figure you have about $2,000 to spend.
i won't be paying myself(BECAUSE YOU DON'T HAVE THE CASH) because i'm not an installer, nor is dave. and neither of us get any sort of employee discount. but that doesn't mean we are going to pay retail either. just because you're a sucker(THIS SUCKER HAS THE CASH) doesn't mean everyone else has to be as well.
since you won't do this for money (as you have nothing to lose if you don't), this is all just conjecture.
again, as dave stated, nobody is bashing your system. just contending a few of your points is all.
--You have absolutely no points to contest. Every point you have made I have answered with you refusing to answer the 1st question. You're a waste of time and are now wasting my time. I'll state again;
Face it. You wouldn't get paid - not because I don't have the cash but because you don't have the balls to come over here and get the whipping that's owed to you. I've invited you twice now. Now I'm calling you out. Put up or shut up or else you're the "keyboard commando".
Originally posted by jaxsvt:
Whether it's the kid who just wants some bass or someone like me who wants it all and doesn't really care if it costs twice as much.
i guess thats where the difference lies. perhaps you just feel better about your system design if you spend extra money on cabling. the rest of us simply know better.
Igronance is bliss - you must be orgasmic. Besides, it can be your little secret.
I'm done with you.
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Anyway...this has gotten totally off track by everyone involved. Debating the context of words used in the post is getting a little ridiculous(i doubt anyone will need to look that up). The name of the forum clearly infers that it should be car audio related. It was fun while it lasted, but get back on topic.
Jack, you have a nice system. There is a chance in hell that lower cost systems can sound better. There is also a chance that more expensive system can sound better. You can spend 1699 on a set of BA components if you like, I can spend 5.89 on a Goldwood midbass. If I prefer the Goldwood, it is better than BA. If you prefer the BA, it is better than the goldwood. How's that?
My contour included:
Sony CDX-C910: Decent HU, good features, easy to use layout, sounded the same as every other HU using S/PDIF output.
Sony XDP-210EQ: Decent EQ with some minor time alignment features including 10 EQ presets, of which I used 2, one for flat response and one with a more realistic first order rise in response under 150 hz.
McIntosh MC440M: Great build quality, attractive looks, and best customer service in the industry in my experience made the McIntosh worth the price tag. Does it sound different than an amp half it's cost? Nope, it doesn't add spaciousness, or make imaging better or even make things sound crisper than anything from US Acoustics to Zapco.
MB Quart 6.5" components: Thought they were great at the time. Learned quite a bit since about value and wouldn't choose them again.
Adire Audio Shivas: 5-6 years after their introduction, they are still one of the best values on the market. Sounds good, plays comfortably down as low as needed at the SPL I am looking for. I could have spent quite a bit more money with worse results.
Streetwires ZN5.0: Sadly, I bought into the marketing and paid 150.00 for 3 18" (yes, inch) lengths to run from the processor to the amp. Later swapped out for rat shack red/white plastic RCAs with no difference in SQ.
Streetwires power/speaker wire: Again, poor decision by an ignorant consumer. Worked just fine but was a complete waste of money that could have been invested in making my car sound better.
Current system (under development):
Maybe a DIY head unit, but I haven't decided. S/PDIF output is a high priority which will likely lead me into a CarPC.
Amps: Probably reuse the McIntosh MC440M to run the front stage. Good quality 600-1000w amp for the subwoofers, processing features not important. Any competent amp will do.
Processor: 12V conversion on a couple of pro-fi pieces most likely by behringer. I hope to have a limiter/gate implemented in the system that would seamlessly turn the subs on at a volume level where the front stage starts to struggle.
Front stage: Hi-Vi D-10 10" woofer handling bass/midbass duties until the subs kick in. Creative sounds 4" full range** unit mfg by Adire Audio will handle the critical midrange freq where a majority of the imaging critical freq are. Tweeters are undecided...
Subs: Possibly a single Lambda PB15 in an IB. More likely, 4 10" subs also used in an IB. Model undetermined. Preferably, something with an advanced motor design.
Wires: Knukonceptz. Nice looking, very affordable, high build quality interconnects. Power and speaker wire will probably be Knu to match. Plus, heat shrinking coat hangers never turns out that good looking.
**i believe it had less then 50% of the distortion levels that the previous low distortion champ had when measured.
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Myself and SVTmike where talking about either building a Van or putting a HUge system in the Merkur, last night. I would rather get a van but we shall see. Something like 4 stroker 15's with 8Krms in the Merkur would be amazing! But would take up alot of room. Hmm decisions.
Ohh and to JAXSVT Im a installer(only first class nothing special) and ill pay myself for my time. THe whole 8 dollars/HU and $20/amp. Installers either make money off of fiberglassing or Alarms. I make about $90 dollars off of remote starter/alarm with a bypass. So to pay myself wouldn't be that much.
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Originally posted by SteedaSVT:
Something like 4 stroker 15's with 8Krms in the Merkur would be amazing! But would take up alot of room. Hmm decisions.
Lay off the Strokers already!!!
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Originally posted by SVTMike:
Originally posted by SteedaSVT:
Something like 4 stroker 15's with 8Krms in the Merkur would be amazing! But would take up alot of room. Hmm decisions.
Lay off the Strokers already!!!
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Get some real subs. Strokers suck.
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I hate you too old man!! So Allknowing Dave what should i get? Insane SPL!im talking like over 160 from 4 15's Throw some names out there and ill look into them. Then go with the Strokers anyhow Seriously throw some ideas out Needs to be around my cost for a stroker cuase for what i get them for theres not alot of subs that can hang unless im using MOnster cable wiring!
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i got a pyle 6.5" motorized tv tunner/dvd 3 audiobahn 12s in a sealed box 2000watt amp 6"x8" rockford fosgate 3 ways here are some pics: http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/555327/6
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If this is still being discussed...my setup: Head Unit: Kenwood Excelon x979 Interior: 6.5" Diamond Hex components front and back Subs: 2 JL Audio W6v2's(12") Amps: JL Audio 300/4 JL Audio 500/1 1 Farad Capacitor I like it...that's what matters.
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What about Treo's? I saw a ZX3 on Focal Jet with two 18"s put up some good numbers; although I can't remember them now.
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Off hand, I would suggest some Funky Pups.
How much can you get strokers for? If they are really cheap, they may be the best choice.
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Get Roland to climb in your trunk Steeda! His farts contain more bass than any sub could ever dream! 
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About 250ish give or take a few dollars
Treo's? never heard of them..
and i have often considered the farting in the trunk thing would be toight
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Originally posted by SteedaSVT:
About 250ish give or take a few dollars
Treo's? never heard of them..
i've heard excellent things about them, but i doubt you'll be able to beat your stroker prices!
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the TSX's look sweet other than the basket looks like stamped steel not a forged basket but i could be wrong.
anyone have price on the tsx 15's?
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A properly made stamped steel basket can be just as good as a forged aluminum one. Plus it's considerably cheaper to make. Just doesnt have the "bling" factor.
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If you're gettin the Stroker's for $250 then you, sir, suck. The Treo's would run way more than that; so they're out.
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Way late, but I have a Kenwood Head Unit ( KDC-MP625 ) a Rockford Punch 400s ( running mono at 4 ohms,about 410 watts) 2 12" Kicker Comps ( 8 ohm running parallel) Kicker components in the door...... Bout it..... Loud as h3|| tho....
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haha...nice screen name. are you bill laimbeer?
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Originally posted by SVTMike:
A properly made stamped steel basket can be just as good as a forged aluminum one. Plus it's considerably cheaper to make. Just doesnt have the "bling" factor.
Thats cool and all i have never had a sub with a stamped basket so i would like to keep it that way... whats the cost on them JBL amp's? the 1200.1? like 200 each or soo? Those are out if soo then too Sounds like if i do this its another Cerwin/Soundstream setup..
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Right around 200 for the BP1200.1, give or take a few bucks yeah.
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Originally posted by SVTMike:
A properly made stamped steel basket can be just as good as a forged aluminum one. Plus it's considerably cheaper to make. Just doesnt have the "bling" factor.
Up to a certain point, you are absolutely correct. I'm not aware of any forged baskets, but there are plenty of cast baskets. ANyway, at some point, aluminum baskets do have some serious advantages in heat dissappation and rigidity. I would certainly avoid a sub with Brahma like excursion claims that used a stamped steel basket.
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Originally posted by dnewma04:
Originally posted by SVTMike:
A properly made stamped steel basket can be just as good as a forged aluminum one. Plus it's considerably cheaper to make. Just doesnt have the "bling" factor.
Up to a certain point, you are absolutely correct. I'm not aware of any forged baskets, but there are plenty of cast baskets. ANyway, at some point, aluminum baskets do have some serious advantages in heat dissappation and rigidity. I would certainly avoid a sub with Brahma like excursion claims that used a stamped steel basket.
Yeah, cast aluminum.
And Steeda, those W3's have stamped baskets.
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damn thats right ok one sub out of the many i have owned..
Even my CV Vega series 10's are cast thast what i ment to say not forged sooooooooooooorrry.
I wouldn't get any Comp sub witha stamped basket! unless you where only competing SQ or had alot of non High Excursion subs.
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There are a lot of good stamped steel basket subs. The Shiva and Tempests have a pretty stellar record in both SPL and SQ comps.
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