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Originally posted by SleeperZ:
I can flush (and I mean complete flush) and fill my system in less than 10 minutes and for less than $25, including time to drain & add coolant (with the coolant I want and additive I want) and change t-stat (to the t-stat I want).
Plus I get an understanding of how the engine is doing.
So why would I want to pay somebody?
How about if we not fight...okay?
I gave advice...others gave advice...sweet...the person that asked the question is the only one that will make the choice to do what's best for him.
And I never said you would have to pay somebody else, did I? I was talking to another person.
Originally posted by SleeperZ:
Since I learned to do it myself, I save atleat $25 per time.
Factor in the fact that I do my oil change, another savings of atleast $20 per time.
Then brake job, ateast $100 per time.
PVC replacement, diagnostics, etc.
I have saved atleast $500 on maintenance costs & atleast $500 on repair/diagnostics.
Buil,ding from that allowed me to gain the confidence, tools, and knowledge to do performance upgrades myself.
And I have saved atleaste $500 there too.
READ, ASK, LEARN, DO!
Good for you.
I stated an opinion, others did...no cause for alarm.
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Originally posted by tiv:
OK, back to business.
Forget about the drain plug, I cannot recall either on the right or left side but there's a rubber hose coming out from the bottom of the rad going towards the back of the car and a few inches from the rad it continues into a metal pipe.
Find that connection, disconnect the hose from the metal and drain your system. It's very convenient.
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Originally posted by MeanGreen2:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by MeanGreen2:
First off, don't use Dexcool, unless you want to see built-up sludge in your fill tank and seepings at all of your hose connections...and honestly, if you've drained your washer fluid and were in the process of removing your O2 sensor, instead of draining your radiator, spending over 6 hours of your time, you really might want to consider having someone else do it for you.
That's probably not what you wanted to hear, but it's good advice, regardless.
Not really good advice. He just needs some type of manual that shows where stuff like that is, a haynes manual would work fine. Or he should have just asked on here the second he realized he wasn't finding it. If you don't work on your car, then there's no way you'll ever learn to do it yourself.
Are you trying to start another fight, friend? 
For $52.50 I could have flushed and refilled his system, using a professional machine...had him back on the road in just a few minutes...flushed, new coolant, LubeGard additive, labor, everything...
...and if actually took the time to read my words:
"you really might want to consider having someone else do it for you."
I never suggested that he had to take it to the dealer, or a shop...I just stated that he find someone else do it for him...a friend, in-law...
Not trying to start a fight at all. You know people are allowed to have different opinions and express them. 
And you might want to take time to read my words,,, if he never does the stuff himself, he'll never know how to work on his car. I take pride knowing how to work on my car, and it certainly comes in handy if someone else isn't available.
Now time to start a fight, when did you stumble upon the zetec forums anyways? I liked it better before you posted on this side of the fence. (I knew we should have gotten that electric fence)   
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Hehe- I didn't think a coolant change question would start a brawl here...  Anyways guys, anyone that has any pics of where it is would be very, very helpful. I will probably work on it this weekend, so I let everyone know what happens. BTW, I just never had any experience with cars. All I really have done is change oil, and I use a Sure Drain for that. Many of these people that know lots about cars have just had a long time to get to know them. Leave room for the newbie!
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Sounds like you got a good attitude. Never give up doing your own work.
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Well I know for myself I couldnt find it right off the bat, but I did get one of those Haynes bibles and then went out for a second try and found the thingy. When you crawl undeer the car youll have to remove the rad shield (question here for some of the more knowledgeable guys. What happens if you leave it off? Will your rad get dinged to crap or what?) Next you need to look on the passenger side of the rad. Righ at the bottom near the corner is where youll find the plug. It faces towards the rear of the car which is kind of ghey cause when you flush it and drain it, fluids will piss out everywhere. Why they just didnt make it face downwards is beyond me, woah wait to think of it the oil drain is like that too, wtf? Ok So if your havin problems seing the drain its likely cause of the mounts or braces or whatever it is kind of blocks the veiw of the drain. You nead to kinda look up past the metal bracket thingy to where the plug is. A nice slim flat head screwdriver will work well on getting it off. For me it seemed like it took forever to get it off but thats because youll have to pull it out with your fingers cause its got a little tab thingy to hold it in even when the threads are all unthreaded. Then watch the crap piss out all over. Id highly recommend A nice big drain pan for this kinda work. Hope that explains it. If you still cant see it, Id really suggest gettin a haynes bible cause that thing covers TONS of little things you need to know about the car.
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Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by MeanGreen2:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by MeanGreen2:
First off, don't use Dexcool, unless you want to see built-up sludge in your fill tank and seepings at all of your hose connections...and honestly, if you've drained your washer fluid and were in the process of removing your O2 sensor, instead of draining your radiator, spending over 6 hours of your time, you really might want to consider having someone else do it for you.
That's probably not what you wanted to hear, but it's good advice, regardless.
Not really good advice. He just needs some type of manual that shows where stuff like that is, a haynes manual would work fine. Or he should have just asked on here the second he realized he wasn't finding it. If you don't work on your car, then there's no way you'll ever learn to do it yourself.
Are you trying to start another fight, friend?
For $52.50 I could have flushed and refilled his system, using a professional machine...had him back on the road in just a few minutes...flushed, new coolant, LubeGard additive, labor, everything...
...and if actually took the time to read my words:
"you really might want to consider having someone else do it for you."
I never suggested that he had to take it to the dealer, or a shop...I just stated that he find someone else do it for him...a friend, in-law...
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Not trying to start a fight at all. You know people are allowed to have different opinions and express them.
Really? Then why did you enter this thread trying to pretend that my opinion wasn't allowed, trying to discredit it? If you really believed that, you would have gave your advice, watched me give my advice, then left it at that, letting the person that started this thread make up their own mind for themselves. 
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And you might want to take time to read my words,,, if he never does the stuff himself, he'll never know how to work on his car. I take pride knowing how to work on my car, and it certainly comes in handy if someone else isn't available.
Not every person is mechanically inclined...and you should never jump into a job w/o being at least the slightest bit prepared. Seeing that someone was yanking on a O2 sensor and draining the washer fluid, never actually getting down to draining the coolant, during a 6 hour coolant draining marathon, was the only reason that I suggested that it might be a good idea to find someone else to take over the job...and to not use the DexCool, btw.
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Now time to start a fight, when did you stumble upon the zetec forums anyways? I liked it better before you posted on this side of the fence. (I knew we should have gotten that electric fence)
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Not trying to start a fight at all. You know people are allowed to have different opinions and express them.
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Originally posted by Matt R:
Hehe- I didn't think a coolant change question would start a brawl here... Anyways guys, anyone that has any pics of where it is would be very, very helpful. I will probably work on it this weekend, so I let everyone know what happens. BTW, I just never had any experience with cars. All I really have done is change oil, and I use a Sure Drain for that. Many of these people that know lots about cars have just had a long time to get to know them. Leave room for the newbie!
No photos, but the *drain plug* for the coolant is on the radiator, right under the lower radiator hose on the passenger side, facing towards the back of the car.
It won't be sticking out like a sore-thumb...everyone that I've seen looks sort of like a button w/ an + on it...mounts pretty flush with the radiator, doesn't stick out like most others.
Get to it from underneath, w/ the splash shield removed.
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heres a pic, mines pretty raddy. the shop that did the coolant change last (same that did my timing belt and IAC) didnt get em a new one...so i will ask fo rone when i go back. no big deal i am sure.  i have clearly labeled all parts needing to be indentified...have at!
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Meangreen my first reply was nice, though yes it discredited your opinion. I did it as nicely as possible though. Not only is it OK to have an opinion, it's OK if the opinion doesn't agree with someone else's. You have the right to disagree again with me and what not but you asked if I'm trying to start a fight, etc. I wasn't with the first post but I don't really care now, because your opinion isn't needed in the zetec section. We don't like people to discourage others from working on their cars. Sure he wasn't doing the right things, BUT that's why he posted on here, and we're here to point him in the right direction, which isn't a shop. Noone is born mechanically inclined, but it's more of a learned skill that anyone can do following a book, a how-to, or someone's directions.
And logger, it's not a big deal if you leave the radiator shield off. It's best to have it on, but mine has been off for a while as I've been doing various mods that require it to come off/on so much that I just left it off for a few months.
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