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Originally posted by Tourige:
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Yeah, that Mustang was pulling ahead. Pretty slow if you ask me. Let's just say that that MS6 is doing thirteens. A stock Mustang GT should do high thirteens as well. A blown one should do low thirteens or twelves, depending on the driver. Now a stock 02 Trans Am WS6 Ram Air will do a 13.5 STOCK. See what I'm getting at?
a Stock MS6 will do 13.9 with a decent driver, notch that boost up to 17PSI, get a CPE intake, exhaust, and a BOV and he is probably close, if not into the 12's
You need to read some more before posting.
1.4 psi and intake and exhaust ... and BOV  are not gonna make it a second quicker.
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Mazdaspeed6 is a nice car, but its not all that really, i test drove one and wasnt all that impressed... remember, its AWD, so can get off line fast.. sure they can run the same 1/4 time maybe, but iam sure the stang would have some mph on it there as well, basically just driving around it...
cant watch video since iam at work, but what year stang? plus i would venture to say the current gt could outrun the 6 as well.
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Originally posted by 99REDSE:
Mazdaspeed6 is a nice car, but its not all that really, i test drove one and wasnt all that impressed... remember, its AWD, so can get off line fast.. sure they can run the same 1/4 time maybe, but iam sure the stang would have some mph on it there as well, basically just driving around it...
cant watch video since iam at work, but what year stang? plus i would venture to say the current gt could outrun the 6 as well.
It's all that to me.   Meh, maybe I can't smoke Stangs regularly, but it holds its own.
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Originally posted by 99REDSE:
Mazdaspeed6 is a nice car, but its not all that really, i test drove one and wasnt all that impressed... remember, its AWD, so can get off line fast.. sure they can run the same 1/4 time maybe, but iam sure the stang would have some mph on it there as well, basically just driving around it...
cant watch video since iam at work, but what year stang? plus i would venture to say the current gt could outrun the 6 as well.
It was an 05 GT Supercharged with Drag radials..
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Originally posted by Big Daddy Kane:
Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Yeah, that Mustang was pulling ahead. Pretty slow if you ask me.
I agree, which makes that MS6 soo much cooler!
Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Let's just say that that MS6 is doing thirteens. A stock Mustang GT should do high thirteens as well. A blown one should do low thirteens or twelves, depending on the driver. Now a stock 02 Trans Am WS6 Ram Air will do a 13.5 STOCK. See what I'm getting at?
All I see that you're saying is you're comparing the fastest of the Firebirds against the non-fastest of the Mustangs...
How about instead of a GT, you be more fair in your "stock" WS6 comparo and throw in a "stock" Cobra... Oops, the WS6 is no longer the fast one!
Cobra 12.9 > WS6 13.5
Are you retarded? You are telling me a brand new GT with a blower isn't fair game to compare against a four year old stock F-body? Are you Ford guys REALLY that afraid of the SS/Ram air? I respect the 03/04, but it has NO place in this comparison. That car is in the Corvette's performance range, not the F-body's. Now if you'd like to compare an '01 Cobra and an '01 Ram-air, I'd be more than pleased to show you the facts.....
Because without a blower, the mustang cobra isn't a proper speed machine and barely performs better than the GT. I like the Mach 1 better because it actually stands a chance against an F-body....
And it doesn't look like a V6 with some big tips and a Cobra-knock-off badge.
All that said, I like the new MS6 alot, and I am truly impressed by the nature of the car. However, it is no muscle car(not that it intends to be...) and should not be treated as one, aka racing people in a straight line. That car would be respected at our local track, but behind the guys back the F-body and Mustang guys would be making fun of it. Just telling you how it is. Keep it where it belongs, the autoX courses and track days.
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Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Originally posted by Big Daddy Kane:
Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Yeah, that Mustang was pulling ahead. Pretty slow if you ask me.
I agree, which makes that MS6 soo much cooler!
Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Let's just say that that MS6 is doing thirteens. A stock Mustang GT should do high thirteens as well. A blown one should do low thirteens or twelves, depending on the driver. Now a stock 02 Trans Am WS6 Ram Air will do a 13.5 STOCK. See what I'm getting at?
All I see that you're saying is you're comparing the fastest of the Firebirds against the non-fastest of the Mustangs...
How about instead of a GT, you be more fair in your "stock" WS6 comparo and throw in a "stock" Cobra... Oops, the WS6 is no longer the fast one!
Cobra 12.9 > WS6 13.5
Are you retarded? You are telling me a brand new GT with a blower isn't fair game to compare against a four year old stock F-body? Are you Ford guys REALLY that afraid of the SS/Ram air? I respect the 03/04, but it has NO place in this comparison. That car is in the Corvette's performance range, not the F-body's. Now if you'd like to compare an '01 Cobra and an '01 Ram-air, I'd be more than pleased to show you the facts.....
Because without a blower, the mustang cobra isn't a proper speed machine and barely performs better than the GT. I like the Mach 1 better because it actually stands a chance against an F-body....
And it doesn't look like a V6 with some big tips and a Cobra-knock-off badge.
All that said, I like the new MS6 alot, and I am truly impressed by the nature of the car. However, it is no muscle car(not that it intends to be...) and should not be treated as one, aka racing people in a straight line. That car would be respected at our local track, but behind the guys back the F-body and Mustang guys would be making fun of it. Just telling you how it is. Keep it where it belongs, the autoX courses and track days.
Sorry but the 03/04 Cobra IS a direct comparison to a WS6/SS. All three of the cars always have been pony cars and always will be. All three have two doors, rear drive, FOUR seats, and the similarities go on. Don't be upset (or ask if people are retarded) because the 03/04 Cobra came with a blower from the factory and could spank on a WS6/SS.
In all seriousness what you were getting at would be like me saying, in previous years it wouldn't be fair to compare the WS6/SS to the Cobra because the WS6 and SS had more than a litre displacment advantage over the Cobra. Just because the Cobra came with a blower is no reason to say the cars are not a direct comparison.
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Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Originally posted by Big Daddy Kane:
Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Yeah, that Mustang was pulling ahead. Pretty slow if you ask me.
I agree, which makes that MS6 soo much cooler!
Originally posted by MadMerc97:
Let's just say that that MS6 is doing thirteens. A stock Mustang GT should do high thirteens as well. A blown one should do low thirteens or twelves, depending on the driver. Now a stock 02 Trans Am WS6 Ram Air will do a 13.5 STOCK. See what I'm getting at?
All I see that you're saying is you're comparing the fastest of the Firebirds against the non-fastest of the Mustangs...
How about instead of a GT, you be more fair in your "stock" WS6 comparo and throw in a "stock" Cobra... Oops, the WS6 is no longer the fast one!
Cobra 12.9 > WS6 13.5
Are you retarded? You are telling me a brand new GT with a blower isn't fair game to compare against a four year old stock F-body? Are you Ford guys REALLY that afraid of the SS/Ram air? I respect the 03/04, but it has NO place in this comparison. That car is in the Corvette's performance range, not the F-body's. Now if you'd like to compare an '01 Cobra and an '01 Ram-air, I'd be more than pleased to show you the facts.....
Because without a blower, the mustang cobra isn't a proper speed machine and barely performs better than the GT. I like the Mach 1 better because it actually stands a chance against an F-body....
And it doesn't look like a V6 with some big tips and a Cobra-knock-off badge.
All that said, I like the new MS6 alot, and I am truly impressed by the nature of the car. However, it is no muscle car(not that it intends to be...) and should not be treated as one, aka racing people in a straight line. That car would be respected at our local track, but behind the guys back the F-body and Mustang guys would be making fun of it. Just telling you how it is. Keep it where it belongs, the autoX courses and track days.
Laughing at a car that does that good in the 1/4? I dont think those people are to brainy anyways..
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All that said, I like the new MS6 alot, and I am truly impressed by the nature of the car. However, it is no muscle car(not that it intends to be...) and should not be treated as one, aka racing people in a straight line. That car would be respected at our local track, but behind the guys back the F-body and Mustang guys would be making fun of it. Just telling you how it is. Keep it where it belongs, the autoX courses and track days.
At 3700lbs the MS6 is a very portly beast and frankly not much fun to toss around. It's probably more at home on the dragstrip where it's very competitive than it is on the autocross course where it really isn't. The actual "muscle car" guys are always gonna make fun of the 4-door semi-luxury sedan that cost $5000 less than their ride but runs mid-13s stock and runs 12s for less than the price of headers on a GT. Nothing you can do about that but let them have their fun while you kick their ass.
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Originally posted by sigma:
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The actual "muscle car" guys are always gonna make fun of the 4-door semi-luxury sedan that cost $5000 less than their ride but runs mid-13s stock and runs 12s for less than the price of headers on a GT. Nothing you can do about that but let them have their fun while you kick their ass.
I'm curious as to what car you're talking about here. Surely not the MS6, as it runs, at the VERY best, high 13s, and I'm curious as to how $500 can get you a full second improvement in the quarter mile.
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Originally posted by PurpleMystique:
Originally posted by sigma:
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The actual "muscle car" guys are always gonna make fun of the 4-door semi-luxury sedan that cost $5000 less than their ride but runs mid-13s stock and runs 12s for less than the price of headers on a GT. Nothing you can do about that but let them have their fun while you kick their ass.
I'm curious as to what car you're talking about here. Surely not the MS6, as it runs, at the VERY best, high 13s, and I'm curious as to how $500 can get you a full second improvement in the quarter mile.
bumping the boost up to 17psi.
Its the same as the Cobra guys putting different Blower pullies on..
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Originally posted by MxRacer:
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I'll be keeping it to myself, until the time comes. It'll be hard to find.
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