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#1610817 07/17/06 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by The Spelling Nazi:
Originally posted by BloodyTomFlint:
Wrong. You can also run waste vegetable oil after it is filtered to remove all the leftover food particles and whatnot.




and your exhaust will smell like french fries! Yummy!




That would be the last thing I need on long trip. I would be stopping at every rest stop on the way...


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Originally posted by TGO:
EDIT: and who cares what they pay in the uk?? Their taxes are their problem! Gas triples in price in the last 2 years, and you expect people not to complain!?




I do! Well, close enough!


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Originally posted by The Spelling Nazi:
Diesel engines can be converted to run on pure vegetable oil. In fact, the first diesel engine ever built ran on peanut oil. And no changing of the lines is required to run bio. I suppose you could do it if you wanted, but it is not needed.





that's not what they said on dirty jobs...but whatever.


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1. Go to www.google.com.
2. Search for biodiesel, waste vegetable oil, and straight vegetable oil.
3. Read.

I'm pretty sure, not positive, but pretty sure that a 12 minute segment on Dirty Jobs doesn't cover everything about alternative fuels.


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Originally posted by BloodyTomFlint:
I'm pretty sure, not positive, but pretty sure that a 12 minute segment on Dirty Jobs doesn't cover everything about alternative fuels.




No! Say it isn't so!

I do plan to eventually replace my pick-up with a diesel (someday, cash willing!). With my crane at the shop being diesel, I can justify the cost of building/buying a small set-up to make bio-diesel for more than one vehicle. I've got the space here at the shop to build a small building to house all the gear and isolate it from the main building. Yeah, it's a bit more work than just driving down to Allsups, but worth it in my mind if I can stick it in the eye of OPEC AND save myself money in the long run.


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Originally posted by BloodyTomFlint:


I'm pretty sure, not positive, but pretty sure that a 12 minute segment on Dirty Jobs doesn't cover everything about alternative fuels.




yes yes yes...I'm just saying, watching that segment they had this enviro-hippie dude who popped the hood on his truck and said the only thing he did was change the rubber hoses because the biodiesel was eating them. It was a really old truck though.

Probably the most important thing i've learned from everything i've read about the process of making bio-diesel, is the removal of "sugar" (glucose, fructose, sucrose...whatever is in veggie oil) and other stuff that would gum up in your fuel system/engine.


When searching I found:

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The central problem in using vegetable oil as diesel fuel is that vegetable oil is much more viscous (thicker) than conventional diesel fuel (petro-diesel, DERV, "dino-diesel"). It's 11 to 17 times thicker. Vegetable oil also has very different chemical properties and combustion characteristics to those of conventional diesel fuel.

If the fuel is too thick it will not atomise properly when the fuel injectors spray it into the combustion chamber and it will not combust properly -- the injectors get coked up, leading to poor performance, higher exhaust emissions and reduced engine life.




http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svo.html

And just looking at a conversion kit for a golf TDI - looks like between 800 and 1500 euros depending on the car.



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Consumer Reports ran a TDI Jetta on a vegetable oil conversion system. The system requires diesel upon startup and shutdown, but runs on oil the rest of the time.


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good one todras! that one made everyone at work laugh their assses off.


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Is there really going to be an endless supply of veggie oil to use to make fuel, if everyone converted over to it?

The only alternatives I can see worth investing into are solar and hydrogen power, as those are going to be the most abundant for the long haul.


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