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lol i laugh at people that use those octane boosters. especially the nos brand. its especially funny when they go to stations that have unleaded racegas (in MN they are 110) they could put that in
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Originally posted by TRicker:
our snowmobile race team is sponsored by torco, we have tried every octane booster they have. in a time slip mindset, the leaded booster they sell is the best. but you cant use that on your stock 02 sensors, so the unleaded stuff is the next best. and man i feel bad for anybody that pays for that stuff! $$$$$
Im sure torco would be happy to hear you talking so high of their product. I know if I paid someone to advertise for me, id want them to also.
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Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by TRicker:
our snowmobile race team is sponsored by torco, we have tried every octane booster they have. in a time slip mindset, the leaded booster they sell is the best. but you cant use that on your stock 02 sensors, so the unleaded stuff is the next best. and man i feel bad for anybody that pays for that stuff! $$$$$
No kidding.
NOS "Octane booster" (and i use that term lightly) increases the Octane by .2 points.. not 2 points, so when you think your running 93, your really running 91.2
Go to sportcompact cars website. They did an article about octane boosters and the nos racing booster did boost octane on california crap tractor gas. Very good article.
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Originally posted by warmonger:
Go to sportcompact cars website. They did an article about octane boosters and the nos racing booster did boost octane on california crap tractor gas. Very good article.
The NOS Off Road version (maximum MMT allowed) added a full 2 octane rating to the 91 octane tractor piss. It was proven to be even better then using Toluene as a home brew octane booster; well for the money any way. It took 1.5-2 gallons of Toluene ($15-19) to match the $10 bottle of NOS Off Road.
The other aromatic and solvent types of octane booster ranged from negligible to ~1 octane.
Quality amounts of MMT is the way to go. However it does transfer into your oil and can eventually foul O2 sensors. (hence the off road "legalize" in the warning)
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Originally posted by Tourige:
your right.. dont tune a car with nitrous... Talk to me when you blow your engine.. idiot.
Mmmm... I think it might be a little crass for you to be calling anyone an idiot, Tourige. I mean, I've read so many threads about each individual aspect and problem of your Zex install, I feel like I put the damn thing in. Maybe think about that before you bash others.
Anyhow, with a 75 shot (assuming it's wet, of course), it really wouldn't be absolutely necessary to run a custom tune. Most of the EFI kits you'll see on the market are designed to work with stock ignition, timing, and injection, so there's really no need to be adjusting anything. Is it safer? Of course. Does not doing it mean you're going to blow your engine? Nope. Back when I used to hang in Levittown, where the only entertainment was racing, plenty of people would bolt on a 75 (and even a few 100) shot and be completely fine.
I am going to be using a new tune, but largely because I already have an X-CAL2.
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by warmonger:
Go to sportcompact cars website. They did an article about octane boosters and the nos racing booster did boost octane on california crap tractor gas. Very good article.
The NOS Off Road version (maximum MMT allowed) added a full 2 octane rating to the 91 octane tractor piss. It was proven to be even better then using Toluene as a home brew octane booster; well for the money any way. It took 1.5-2 gallons of Toluene ($15-19) to match the $10 bottle of NOS Off Road.
The other aromatic and solvent types of octane booster ranged from negligible to ~1 octane.
Quality amounts of MMT is the way to go. However it does transfer into your oil and can eventually foul O2 sensors. (hence the off road "legalize" in the warning)
Yes, that's the article I'm referring to. I thought they were able to make 93 octane out of it but I didn't want to quote it. lol
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Originally posted by Matty K:
Originally posted by Tourige:
your right.. dont tune a car with nitrous... Talk to me when you blow your engine.. idiot.
Mmmm... I think it might be a little crass for you to be calling anyone an idiot, Tourige. I mean, I've read so many threads about each individual aspect and problem of your Zex install, I feel like I put the damn thing in. Maybe think about that before you bash others.
Anyhow, with a 75 shot (assuming it's wet, of course), it really wouldn't be absolutely necessary to run a custom tune. Most of the EFI kits you'll see on the market are designed to work with stock ignition, timing, and injection, so there's really no need to be adjusting anything. Is it safer? Of course. Does not doing it mean you're going to blow your engine? Nope. Back when I used to hang in Levittown, where the only entertainment was racing, plenty of people would bolt on a 75 (and even a few 100) shot and be completely fine.
I am going to be using a new tune, but largely because I already have an X-CAL2.
A Custom tune is 2 fold, you get inproved performance, and you KNOW your car is runnin properly and that its actually setup for the nitrous.
That 600-800 bucks for a chip+tune is a much better investment than a new engine.
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Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by allstyle12:
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by allstyle12:
Remember to get some type of octane booster. I have used Lucas and NOS. I have heard Torco also works well, but have yet to try it.
You shouldent need octane booster unless your tuner is an idiot.
and Torco is the only octane booster that actually works.
Correct, you don't NEED octane booster. I just like to play is safe when it comes to any type of forced induction as should everyone who does not want a blown engine. Especially when the weather is hot.
Suit yourself, but I would rather be fast and reliable at the same time without having to worry about detination. I have yet to "Tune" my car, but I am only running a 75 shot so I don't really NEED to "Tune" it yet. Tunning will come if I decide to go bigger than 75. You indicate "Torco is the only octane booster that actually works". It will be helpful to us all if you have tests that "actually" proves it is the "only" one that works.
your right.. dont tune a car with nitrous... Talk to me when you blow your engine.. idiot.
Explain to me how adding octane booster even comes close to the quality of a good tune? Dosent..
And yes, Torco is the only octane booster that works, unless you want .02 of an octane for each bottle you add.
Thanks to DemonSVT, Warmonger & Matty K for clarifing what I was trying to portray.
2 years, countless bottles and no blown engine yet....Touriage. I appreciate the info, but the bashing is unnecessary.  I may not have a lot of post, but I have done plenty of research, hence why my car is running in pristine shape. You may want to try to research a little more yourself so that way, you can share your info in a polite and mature fashion.
Now, you explain to me where I indicated in my posts comparing octane booster to a quality good tune? Didn't think so.  Once I get and XCAL2 or something equivalent, I will definitely tune my car to make it run even more reliable and stronger.
Sorry to break the bad news Touriage, but you are incorrect when you indicate "Torco is the ONLY that works." Others have been proven to work as well. Torco might boost the levels more than others, but that does not mean others don't work. Good day.
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Originally posted by allstyle12:
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by allstyle12:
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by allstyle12:
Remember to get some type of octane booster. I have used Lucas and NOS. I have heard Torco also works well, but have yet to try it.
You shouldent need octane booster unless your tuner is an idiot.
and Torco is the only octane booster that actually works.
Correct, you don't NEED octane booster. I just like to play is safe when it comes to any type of forced induction as should everyone who does not want a blown engine. Especially when the weather is hot.
Suit yourself, but I would rather be fast and reliable at the same time without having to worry about detination. I have yet to "Tune" my car, but I am only running a 75 shot so I don't really NEED to "Tune" it yet. Tunning will come if I decide to go bigger than 75. You indicate "Torco is the only octane booster that actually works". It will be helpful to us all if you have tests that "actually" proves it is the "only" one that works.
your right.. dont tune a car with nitrous... Talk to me when you blow your engine.. idiot.
Explain to me how adding octane booster even comes close to the quality of a good tune? Dosent..
And yes, Torco is the only octane booster that works, unless you want .02 of an octane for each bottle you add.
Thanks to DemonSVT, Warmonger & Matty K for clarifing what I was trying to portray.
2 years, countless bottles and no blown engine yet....Touriage. I appreciate the info, but the bashing is unnecessary. I may not have a lot of post, but I have done plenty of research, hence why my car is running in pristine shape. You may want to try to research a little more yourself so that way, you can share your info in a polite and mature fashion.
Now, you explain to me where I indicated in my posts comparing octane booster to a quality good tune? Didn't think so. Once I get and XCAL2 or something equivalent, I will definitely tune my car to make it run even more reliable and stronger.
Sorry to break the bad news Touriage, but you are incorrect when you indicate "Torco is the ONLY that works." Others have been proven to work as well. Torco might boost the levels more than others, but that does not mean others don't work. Good day.
Originally posted by allstyle12:
Correct, you don't NEED octane booster. I just like to play is safe when it comes to any type of forced induction as should everyone who does not want a blown engine. Especially when the weather is hot.
Suit yourself, but I would rather be fast and reliable at the same time without having to worry about detination. I have yet to "Tune" my car, but I am only running a 75 shot so I don't really NEED to "Tune" it yet. Tunning will come if I decide to go bigger than 75. You indicate "Torco is the only octane booster that actually works". It will be helpful to us all if you have tests that "actually" proves it is the "only" one that works.
That sounds a lot like "I dont need a tune, but throwing in some octane booster is going to save my engine"
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Originally posted by allstyle12:
Correct, you don't NEED octane booster. I just like to play is safe when it comes to any type of forced induction as should everyone who does not want a blown engine. Especially when the weather is hot.
Suit yourself, but I would rather be fast and reliable at the same time without having to worry about detination. I have yet to "Tune" my car, but I am only running a 75 shot so I don't really NEED to "Tune" it yet. Tunning will come if I decide to go bigger than 75. You indicate "Torco is the only octane booster that actually works". It will be helpful to us all if you have tests that "actually" proves it is the "only" one that works.
That sounds a lot like "I dont need a tune, but throwing in some octane booster is going to save my engine"
Incorrect. Care to try again?
By the way, I have yet to see your Torco documentation as of yet. Care to be helpful and share your findings with everyone?
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