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#1057189 09/22/04 06:37 PM
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Originally posted by TourDeForce:
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Wow NAPA makes wine now???



I hope you weren't serious about that question.



it was a joke
he was referring to NAPA the auto parts store.


don't drink red wine ice cold. It tastes horrible.
I've made the mistake of doing that to red wines because I'm so used to drinking chilled white zinfandel.

I still have a hard time with reds, but this thread has proven to be quite helpful. I am going to try to take some of the advice and expand my tastes.
Nothing can stop my lust for the Rosato wine at the Olive Garden though




You should try a few German wines. Check out a nice Rhinehessen Spatlese about 4 years old for a super smooth, rich flavor. There are many nice ones like Oppenheimer Krotenbrunen available for a very good price. The alcohol content of the German wines is typically low - around 9%, and that can be a benefit too. German wines, IMHO, go much better with food than ANY other kind. This was proven in a huge wine tasting at Disney World back when I worked for the Olando Wine Exchange. The margin was something like 4 to 1 over any other type of wine. ENJOY!

This brings me to make a few comments on the subject. All these posts & I have not hear anybody talk about the age of the wine. That is probably the biggest influence on wine that there is! Take a 10 year old cheap $10 Cabernet & taste it next to a 2 year old $40 Cebernet & most people will prefer the cheap wine because it has had time to mature and become smooth & "drinkable". Drinking a wine too young just takes a lot from the enjoyment IMHO because the wine is still grassy or acidic.

So, you ask, "Who the hell are you to be shooting your mouth off?!!". I was a wine consultant here in Florida for over 10 years, I did some importing for the Olando Wine Exchange wholesalers/importers, and I am a Sommelier which is a certified, registered expert in wine.

Pick your dry white wines from those that are typically 4 to 6 years old & you should always be happy with it.

Pick your red wines from those that are at least 6 years old & they'll typically be nicely aged.

Cabernets are typically most stout of the popular varietals. They have bold, strong flavor & take longer to age. These are suggested only with the richest foods with powerful, concentrated sauces.

Merlot are a bit more subtle, but still have a rich flavor & will usually be a little smoother. This is a varietal that I would generally suggest for beef & lamb.

Pinot Noir is one I like to have all by itself. They will usually have a nice velvety smooth finish and many very subtle 'layers' of flavor. I generally don't drink it with food because the pinot noir just doesn't seem to mix well with foods.

If you start with a bottle of any of the reds chilled in the fridge for 20 minutes or so, you can pick up the many different flavers easier as the wine warms up in your glass. Each sip will be a little different by bringing in more oak or berries or a softer finish, and the smoothness of the aged wine will become more & more apparent as the minutes tick by.






What suppliers did you deal with? and what brands did you import?



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Quick! What wine goes best with Panda Express Chinese food?!?!1

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Cakebread has an excellent Cab, as well as Franciscan Vineyards.

If you like the fruity tooty wines, stick to an Auslese, Sptlese or a Reisling. Even a zin or a white zin are blush type wines and easy to throw down. As stated earlier, the cabs require a very discerning pallete.

If all else fails, grab some Mad Dog 20/20 or some Ripple and get your swerve on.

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Originally posted by JaTo:
If you want a few sparklers (I'm more on Spanish and Italian reds than French, mainly due to price), ping me. There are some Spanish reds that are killers for ~$15...






Rioja's rule! The french will never admit it, but often they buy grapes grown in Rioja to addin to their own production during lean or bad years. When living in England we drove to Spain, bought three cases of awesome Riojas and drove right through Bordeaux with out stopping...


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Originally posted by Fmr12B:
Two Buck Chuck

Have Trader Joes? start there




Great suggestion! Learn the types and your taste prefferences. Then move up the ladder.


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Originally posted by infuryum:
Quick! What wine goes best with Panda Express Chinese food?!?!





OMG, I love Panda Express, I must go there next payday. I haven't been in so long. Well, if you get something with beef, red wine, if you get something with chicken, white wine.


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Originally posted by infuryum:
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Boone's Farm Tickle Pink


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Originally posted by TexasRealtor:
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Quick! What wine goes best with Panda Express Chinese food?!?!1




Boone's Farm Tickle Pink



YAY!!! I'm glad I'm not the only one that is a fan of this fine wine. I serve it at all my dinner parties. It is a big hit with the ladies.


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I got a 2001 Bottega Vinaia pinot noir from north Italy's Trentino region. I paired it with orange chicken and black pepper chicken. Both were heavy, as far as chicken goes, but I can tell that red wine wasn't the best selection. I don't eat much beef, though.

As a wine, it was great. I let it breath for about twenty five minutes before I drank it. I got a couple of wine glasses from my mom to start me out. I swirled it around and inhaled as I drank it and let it sit in my mouth for a few seconds. It's going to take some getting used to, coming from an avid beer drinker. I enjoyed it, though, and I'll have more tonight.

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Originally posted by infuryum:
I swirled it around and inhaled as I drank it and let it sit in my mouth for a few seconds.



this made me laugh (mostly at myself because I don't drink wine this way too often) I realize it's the proper way to enjoy it, but I still toss wine back just like a tequila shot.
I must be an alcoholic.
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