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#1049538 09/13/04 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by Static:
it looks like a riced out cavy



Yeap, ugly and not all that quick and it's ugly. Ooo yeah, it's sorta ugly.


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Originally posted by BaBySHO:
Looks like a Tc, imo.

but it has been posted once er twice.




damn beat me to that lol. it looks much like the scion tc, except i don't care for the tail lights, to much like the cavalier.


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Originally posted by FreeShyne:
Originally posted by JonnySVT:
Originally posted by AliasJerk:
Originally posted by FreeShyne:
Originally posted by Kokopellian:
Isn't it just a dolled up Saturn Ion Redline? I think the wing needs reworking as well. But who am I kidding. I'd hit it.




Actually I think the Redline is more "dolled up"...Anyway I don't like it, and the name sucks. Why won't anybody make a SC 4 door V6 that is affordable??




I partway agree with you on that one. The american car market is starting to go in the right direction... But still not quite getting it... its not all about making a 4 cylender fast... its all about going fast PERIOD... And a Supercharged V6... Even a 2.8 Liter would be insanely fast. and fun to drive... make it under 25K and you have my vote for one... depending on if the car isnt ugly or not.




Can I say "GTP".....




Maybe I should have said "Manual Tranny, and atleast all wheel drive, since rear wheel is probably unrealistic." Also, the GTP is supercharged, but really not any more powerful than my SVT when stock...I suppose I should have been a tad more specific...




Despite the fact that the GTP is 20X more mod friendly than the SVT?


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Originally posted by JonnySVT:
Originally posted by FreeShyne:
Originally posted by JonnySVT:
Originally posted by AliasJerk:
Originally posted by FreeShyne:
Originally posted by Kokopellian:
Isn't it just a dolled up Saturn Ion Redline? I think the wing needs reworking as well. But who am I kidding. I'd hit it.




Actually I think the Redline is more "dolled up"...Anyway I don't like it, and the name sucks. Why won't anybody make a SC 4 door V6 that is affordable??




I partway agree with you on that one. The american car market is starting to go in the right direction... But still not quite getting it... its not all about making a 4 cylender fast... its all about going fast PERIOD... And a Supercharged V6... Even a 2.8 Liter would be insanely fast. and fun to drive... make it under 25K and you have my vote for one... depending on if the car isnt ugly or not.




Can I say "GTP".....




Maybe I should have said "Manual Tranny, and atleast all wheel drive, since rear wheel is probably unrealistic." Also, the GTP is supercharged, but really not any more powerful than my SVT when stock...I suppose I should have been a tad more specific...




Despite the fact that the GTP is 20X more mod friendly than the SVT?




I thought I said stock...Wait, I did.

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So you want a fast, stock, supercharged, RWD/AWD, 4 door? Hmmm....how about an Audi? Other than that, which isn't in your $25k range, I don't know what else to say.... Maybe a WRX? Oh, wait, that's turbocharged, sorry.....Damn picky Americans.


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Originally posted by JonnySVT:
So you want a fast, stock, supercharged, RWD/AWD, 4 door? Hmmm....how about an Audi? Other than that, which isn't in your $25k range, I don't know what else to say.... Maybe a WRX? Oh, wait, that's turbocharged, sorry.....Damn picky Americans.




Exactly my point...All the cool cars are either too expensive, 4 cylinders, FWD, or automatic, or coupes...Is it too much to ask for a RWD, V6, manual tranny with FI for under $22K??

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Originally posted by FreeShyne:
Originally posted by JonnySVT:
Originally posted by FreeShyne:
Originally posted by JonnySVT:
Originally posted by AliasJerk:
Originally posted by FreeShyne:
Originally posted by Kokopellian:
Isn't it just a dolled up Saturn Ion Redline? I think the wing needs reworking as well. But who am I kidding. I'd hit it.




Actually I think the Redline is more "dolled up"...Anyway I don't like it, and the name sucks. Why won't anybody make a SC 4 door V6 that is affordable??




I partway agree with you on that one. The american car market is starting to go in the right direction... But still not quite getting it... its not all about making a 4 cylender fast... its all about going fast PERIOD... And a Supercharged V6... Even a 2.8 Liter would be insanely fast. and fun to drive... make it under 25K and you have my vote for one... depending on if the car isnt ugly or not.




Can I say "GTP".....




Maybe I should have said "Manual Tranny, and atleast all wheel drive, since rear wheel is probably unrealistic." Also, the GTP is supercharged, but really not any more powerful than my SVT when stock...I suppose I should have been a tad more specific...




Despite the fact that the GTP is 20X more mod friendly than the SVT?




I thought I said stock...Wait, I did.





hmmmm, stock

old gtp =240 hp..something like 260/280 tq
CSVT=190-200hp and like 170ish torque

how is the GTP not anymore powerful

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those 'bucket' seats sux IMO

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Damn you folks are short sighted and close minded.

It's a destroked 2.2L ecotec. (meaning it can actually REV and REV quickly!)

It has a grossly underrated 205HP (more like 240) in a 2600-2700lb car.
It has a very flat and broad TQ curve from the roots blower with intercooler.

"Supposedly" it will have different gearing then the weak offering in the Saturn. If not there is already an MTX that can be swapped out with much better gearing. (hence why it's "supposedly" suppose to get it since it's already a GM part)


It's based on the European Opel platform and YES that means it handles well from the factory. It is NOT the typical GM body roll car. (I know the wife has an 02 Z24 and even with the full Eibach setup it's only passable)

I think this car (MINUS THAT WING!!!) is a great addition to the market and more ammunition with a domestic flavor. (the SRT-4 raised the bar a TON!)


It's definitely a jump up for the aging J-body platform. (GM's entry level) They were great for reliability but getting very long in the tooth and never much in the handling department.


Yes I would like to see a 4 door version a well...


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the new "cobalt" looks just like an updated cavalier. this reminds me of an old saying, "you can't polish a terd"....no matter what you call it.


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