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#1019986 08/04/04 03:25 AM
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Is there a difference in the different model years y-pipes? I have been looking at the after market y-pipes and they have that sharp bend near the flange. It looks on my 2000 that the bend is mandrel. So what is the advantage of the after market y-pipe? Am I not seeing what's inside my stock y-pipe. Also do ALL the svt's resonators go down to 2"? I bought my car new # 2111 of 2150 and it looks like it's 2.25" all the way thru. What's up?

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This past weekend I finaly talked my buddy into helping me optimize my stock y-pipe on my 2000 csvt. I feel I must warn you that doing this is a pretty big pain in the a$$.
Altough it is well worth the effort.

There is a crushed bend where the two pipes off the headers join into the y at the rear flange of the y pipe.

Once you take it apart you will see what a major bottle neck this is .I know someone has pics of this.look under CEG photos on the main web site page and its under a heading of someone doing a 3L swap.

The 2000 from what I under stand and on my car has a three bolt flange. other svt produced mid year 99 and 98 have a two bolt flange .

This is the reason I believe the borla cat back is only made for 98-99 contour svt's due to the different flange. most aftermarket y-pipe give you a choice.

If you deside to go the cheap route like I did you will see what a pain cutting off the heatshield and welding the two halfs back together really is.

I was able to use a sawzaw a welder and file to do the complet task. but I could have used a grinding stone !

Once you over come the task of optimizing the y-pipe the benifit it well worth the effort you will notice a difference a big difference .I'm guessing a solid 5whp and 5 ftlbs of torque at the wheels.the car will have better throttle responce and it will get to redline a whole hell of a lot faster. you will really like this mod.

Before with my yokohama AVS ES100's I was lucky if i could bark the tires into second gear now with my current mods it SPINS yes SPINS the tires into second gear.

Sound difference is a little deeper but besides that theres no rasp or drone to note. good luck. IF you have the money buy an after market y-pipe if your on a budget like me this will take a few hours and it helps to know someone that can weld.


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2000 silver frost svt

-yokohama AVS ES100's 225-45-16
-optimized throttle body
-optimized y-pipe
-K@N RU-3530,KKM maf adapter,rubbermaid breadbox heatshield
-fsvt fuel pump
-mufflers removed and replaced with straight pipes
-roush shift knob
-white HVAC overlays


-2000 csvt silver frost #1619 -magnaflow 14415 -optimized T/B & y-pipe -superchips xgt1 -75mm proflow maf -K&N RU-3530 -fsvt smart pump # 354Z-9H307-BC -spec stage one, LSD -low-tek,a/f,oil press.,volts -B&M short shifter -17" konig gt-r
#1019988 08/04/04 06:34 AM
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Stock Y-pipe has a CRUSH flange.

Best option is to modify your stock Y-pipe by removing it and replacing it with a 2.5" flange.


Want more info and pictures then SEARCH. It's a well hashed out topic!


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Thanks, I figured there was a reason and I saw that there was an outer skin on the y-pipe, to hide the crush I quess. Did you do anything else to your exhaust? The precats, resonator, etc?
And Demon, once again thanks. You are a wealth of info! And you always respond quickly. You are a HUGE asset to this club!!!!! THANKS again!!!

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Originally posted by tblazer:
Thanks, I figured there was a reason and I saw that there was an outer skin on the y-pipe, to hide the crush I quess. Did you do anything else to your exhaust? The precats, resonator, etc?
And Demon, once again thanks. You are a wealth of info! And you always respond quickly. You are a HUGE asset to this club!!!!! THANKS again!!!




HMMMM!!

Is that sarcasim I smell?


Originally posted by MapOfTaziFoSho:
Can u ask him to measure his shaft and compare it to your shaft?


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Originally posted by BlackBirdRacing:
HMMMM!!

Is that sarcasim I smell?



Iâ??m sure it's not. tBlazer sounds like a real enthusiast â?? though maybe he is laying it on a little deep!

I have to say that anyone who has been here awhile sees that DemonSVT really does have a phenomenal understanding of what works with our cars, and I think he is pretty damn good about sharing his experience and understanding.

So for whatever itâ??s worth, I second tBlazerâ??s sentiment â?? Thank you DemonSVT, you definitely make CEG more interesting and valuable!


99 Tropic Green SVT, Tan Leather, 20K miles, "Nice Twin" (factory stock). 99 Tropic Green SVT, Tan Leather, 28K miles, "Evil Twin" (Turbo AER 3L and more in progress) 96 Red LX, Opal Grey Leather 2.5L, ATX, 22K miles
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Originally posted by BlackBirdRacing:
Originally posted by tblazer:
Thanks, I figured there was a reason and I saw that there was an outer skin on the y-pipe, to hide the crush I quess. Did you do anything else to your exhaust? The precats, resonator, etc?
And Demon, once again thanks. You are a wealth of info! And you always respond quickly. You are a HUGE asset to this club!!!!! THANKS again!!!




HMMMM!!

Is that sarcasim I smell?




Not at all!! Tom is a 1st class guy

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Originally posted by JEDsContour:
I have to say that anyone who has been here awhile sees that DemonSVT really does have a phenomenal understanding of what works with our cars, and I think he is pretty damn good about sharing his experience and understanding.



Then the tuners here will love my current projects...

LM-1 output cable (done)
S-AFC input cable (done)
LM-1 Aux Input cable with regulated RPM converter (designed and waiting on a few chips)

...and those are just the ones I can talk about.


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I hate you. In a good way.


99 SVTC, T-Red, #652/2760-12.8.1998 Mother#@%@!* did I sound abstract? I hope it sounded more confusin than that!
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Originally posted by DemonSVT:

LM-1 output cable (done)
S-AFC input cable (done)
LM-1 Aux Input cable with regulated RPM converter (designed and waiting on a few chips)




Am i the only one in wich that makes absolutly 0 sense?
Does this have something to do with being able to tune the air/fuel and timing with out have to go to a shop. Isnt that what you have the tweeker for? Or am i way out in right field on this one?


98 csvt t-red.. sho-shop intake, b&m, fidanza, spec1 clutch, Torsen, DMD,optimized Y& TB, Brullen, rear strut bar,h&r's,17" konig traffik's. "I say what I mean and I do what i say"
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