What I'm wondering is, I'd want to do my own oil change now but the thing that stops be is that it is actually cheaper to give my mechanic $20 cash to do the oil lube and filter. I mean the oil he puts in is just generic 5w30 and a generic filter but hey for $20 he does the labour. Now If I were to do it, I think I'd lose money. If i put in the higher mileage oil, I'm looking at about $18 plus another $4 for the extra 1L. On top of that I'm out about $4-7 for the oil filter which comes up to $26-$30. A net loss of $10 per oil change, I know it's counting pennies, but as a student and with rising tuitions I need the extra cash. Now generic oil (still meets standards) is asbout $10 + the filter which leaves me saving $5 every oil change, or in my driving scenario about $5 bucks every 2 months or $60 a year. What should I do? is there a recommendation you guys can make on this topic?
Dino oil is fine if you plan to change it every 3K miles/3 months. If you have someone else change the oil, you MUST check the oil level and oil filter for leaks immediately after that. There have been too many instances of CEGers experiencing not enough oil being put in or leaks by the oil filter after an oil and filter change by "trusted" mechanics.
ah no don't worry about that, I got the oil pan changed and a new gasket. Made sure, also had an oil change. Is there any BENEFIT to using Higher Mileage formula from Quakerstate, mobil or Castrol. I mean am I going to NOTICE ANYTHING in terms of power, performance, fuel economy (the big 3, although the first two are pretty much the same).
You misunderstood me. I meant, sometimes, they do not put enough oil and, sometimes, they do not tighten the oil filter enough (and it leaks there).
As for the higher mileage oil for performance and power, I'll let those who have more experience with those answer. I have a stock Duratec and have not used "high mileage" synthetic oil.
Ford changed the specs recently to 5W-20 for fuel economy improvement (how noticeable, I don't know). I stayed with 5W-30.
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my car has had nothing but mobil 1 in it since it was new....12 year and 180K miles ago. Compression is extreamly good in it still. I just got a leak in the oil pan gasket, but that isn't the oils fault. I did just switch to AmsOil, the good 25K mile or one year interval stuff. If you want to save money get that stuff. $5.35 a quart and get a filter that lasts 12K miles for another $10. Costs $45ish but then you don't have to worry too much for a year....besides doing the filter.
thank you for your help guys. About the 5w20, it only improves fuel economy maybe... 0.5% - 5% max. I use it in my MDX beacuse it's a requirement since 2001 to report BETTER fuel economy numbers, especially in V6s and in SUVs.
For the other point, maybe I'm old fashioned, but I'd like to change the oil every 3000miles or 5000KM simply because that's how I've always been doing it
. My dad's car has about 540,000KM on it, so about 325,000 miles on it and he does just the regular oil changes, and the other things that need to be changed over time. I'm trying to drive my car into the ground and have it as long as possible. Only reason I care so much is well this is my first car and I want it to last me a while.
Any hoo, there was a higher mileage dino oil I was thinking of trying, it's by Castrol. It's a 5w20, and as soon I've driven my 5k, im going to change that in. I'm definitely going ot
uh lets see I just went over 250,000KM the other day so... about 150,000 miles. If you believe I'll benefit I will do it. In about Dec 03, I acquired my old mystique. So in about 20 months or so I've put on about 60,000 miles. Most of them highway obviously. So well here's what I'm going to do then, Higher mileage 5w20 with a high endurance oil filter, that sounds like a good economical investment. I'll get the durable oil that lasts as long as you say, about 5,000 miles.
I'd be wary about using Amsoil for 1 whole year/25,000 miles.
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this oil life study Amsoil changed from 5w30 to 15w40 after 14,000 miles!! Mobil 1 lasted 18,000 miles with no viscosity change.
Thanks for the input, i'll go with 5w20 synthetic from Mobil 1 or Quaker state. ANd yes those are my goals, but I would switch them around juts because I think I'd get more mileage first before I start saving money. By the time I finish my degree it'll be time to buy myself a new car, so cheers! Thanks for the input btw, it's really much appreciated.
Well, mine went over 190,000 miles with very little wear on regular 5w30 dino Valvoline with 3,000 mile oil changes.
You do know that fram is one of the worst filters out ther. Motocraft filters have been proven to be extreamly effective with these cars...and they are cheap to boot.
I thought the wal-mart oil was Tech2000? I was planning on buying these oils, tell me what you think
Tech2000 5w20 (wal-mart house brand)
Formula 1 with synthethic belnd 5w20 ($2 more but it's Canadian Tire house brand)
Castrol GTX 5w20 ($4 than wal-mart house brand)
QUaker State PEAK PERFORMANCE 5w20 (comes with a free oil filter by Quaker state).
Quaker state HIGHER MILEAGE FORMULA "specially formulated for higher mileage engines to prevent both viscosity and thermal breakdown"
Any ideas? Are any of those rated for more than the recommended 5000km (3000miles) interval? Is there a filter as durable and better
I think Supertech and Tech2000 are the same thing. It's in the blue plastic bottles.
Dude, if you really need to save money at all costs, then get the 5qt jug of Tech2000 and another qt, should run about $9 with tax, plus a motorcraft filter, $4 w/tax. $13 out of the door/3k miles.
If you want more assurance, buy the next cheapest name-brand oil, Quaker STate. It'll be like $3/4 more/oil change interval=$17/change.
All of these are 3k intervals, more than 3k, is into the synthetics. For example, on my car I use M1= $25 oil + 4 Motorcraft filter + tax=$30/change. However, I change my oil every 6k miles. Hence, why a lot of people use synthetic, it's better for your engine (if younger-older engines can deteriorate crude holding seals in place, thus forming leaks), it's almost the same cost/oil ratio, and it involves less frequent changes, hence a win, win situation.
It doesn't seem logical at the store, but in the long-run as Roger pointed it out, it's pretty practical.
In regards, to your deals w/QS filters and whatnot, I believe most of those are Fram filters, so I would avoid that. You can always ask them to double-check, but most of the oil change guys aren't very reliable sources of info. Secondly, from my Canadian friends, I've heard CT isn't the most reliable source for car work in Canada.
Good luck man, whatever you decide. Hey, one thing, I checked your profile, and noticed your last name is Prakash. Are you Indian by chance?
the older an engine gets, the more it should have a synthetic oil in it.
) and the Oil pan (mother fu****). Would I still benefit any from using Synthetic now at 250,000 KM ? If so I'll have that done for my next oil change, btw i'm changing the oil myself and the only thing I have to work out besides the exact oil and filter, is how to transport the old oil an d filter to a disposal site. And yes CT is a big overpriced and unreliable place for oil and things like that, I need someone there who has a discount or a Wal-mart discount or some discount place for car enthusiasts, it's just i'm not really plugged into those kind of things now since I just started making ceg my homepage.