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normal signs of a bad TOB are a grinding noise when the car is in neutral right?

Originally posted by ElKy:
normal signs of a bad TOB are a grinding noise when the car is in neutral right?

more of a wirring, but yeah that would be right...

Originally posted by ElKy:
normal signs of a bad TOB are a grinding noise when the car is in neutral right?

That, or it came in a SPEC box.

Originally posted by muntus:

Originally posted by ElKy:
normal signs of a bad TOB are a grinding noise when the car is in neutral right?

That, or it came in a SPEC box.

oh snap!

if your TOB is bad make sure you get the six cyl and not the 4cyl TOB. There was a problem where they weren't packaged right. I posted some pics in an old TOB post a few months ago.

Originally posted by muntus:

That, or it came in a SPEC box.

Exactly why I'm going back to a stock SVT clutch next year when I pull the tranny for a HMS tranny.

The clutch has gotten so loud and drives me insane. Everyone thinks I have engine problems when they hear it.

Originally posted by CSVT1214:

Originally posted by muntus:

That, or it came in a SPEC box.

Exactly why I'm going back to a stock SVT clutch next year when I pull the tranny for a HMS tranny.

The clutch has gotten so loud and drives me insane. Everyone thinks I have engine problems when they hear it.

I meant the TOB. As far as the Spec clutch is concerned, I got the internals coated which makes my Stage 1 very quiet. Sometimes it makes some rollover noise(not loud) and sometimes it makes zero noise. I recommend this process to anyone doing a transmission through HMS.

Originally posted by AliasJerkâ�??¢:

Originally posted by ElKy:
normal signs of a bad TOB are a grinding noise when the car is in neutral right?

more of a wirring, but yeah that would be right...

well, i guess its kind of a metal on metal whirring.
when i put a prybar on the case and listened it kinda sounded like that.

Terry says, with your foot OFF the clutch the TOB is just 'kissing' the release fingers of the clutch pressure plate so a worn bearing should be quiet. When you depress the clutch pedal THEN the full load from the clutch springs is on the release bearing. That is the time a bady worn bearing will be VERY noisy.

Originally posted by muntus:

Originally posted by CSVT1214:

Originally posted by muntus:

That, or it came in a SPEC box.

Exactly why I'm going back to a stock SVT clutch next year when I pull the tranny for a HMS tranny.

The clutch has gotten so loud and drives me insane. Everyone thinks I have engine problems when they hear it.

I meant the TOB. As far as the Spec clutch is concerned, I got the internals coated which makes my Stage 1 very quiet. Sometimes it makes some rollover noise(not loud) and sometimes it makes zero noise. I recommend this process to anyone doing a transmission through HMS.

Yeah, sorry. I didn't read enough. I saw noise, and SPEC and put the two together without paying attention to what you were referring to.

I'll have to keep in mind what you said about the internal coating.

ok so that rules out the TOB, but does terry have any idea what could be making that noise with the clutch out and the car in neutral?

thanks for the relay of info todd

....a rattle with the clutch up in neutral can be
*Loose or worn springs in the clutch disc 'hub'
*Loose or worn fingers on the clutch pressure plate
*Gear rollover within the trans
*Incorrect lube in the trans...as we all should know

With the clutch up and in neutral ALL of the gears within the trans rotate except the output shaft and final drive/diff gears.

hrrmm
i am running amsoil and friction modifier in the box.
i don't know how long this noise has been present.
so i guess maybe i will ignore it for now, unless it gets worse or i launch parts through the housing.

what about when i shift the car at high RPMS.. when i hear a little. "tweet" (kind of like a belt)

its only when i shift after i release the clutch.

and its only when its a high rev, umm such as, if .. i was.. umm racing ?

Originally posted by JEFFtourCT:
(kind of like a belt)

Because it is.

It's a Contour thing.

Is some occasional belt noise when releasing the clutch in first gear for a regular start normal as well?

No.

I would think it would be a weak tensioner on the belt, in that situation. How often does it happen?

Just occasionally, sorta depends on how I let the clutch out and give gas. Usually it's at really low rpm. I figure it's probably tensioner too. I'll wait till it gets bit worse though and just keep an eye on it.

Originally posted by JEFFtourCT:
what about when i shift the car at high RPMS.. when i hear a little. "tweet" (kind of like a belt)

its only when i shift after i release the clutch.

and its only when its a high rev, umm such as, if .. i was.. umm racing ?

Are you sure you're not hearing it while you're mid-shift (i.e. clutch in motion or in, and throttle partly closed)? I hear it too when I'm hammering it, shifting at 5K or above, it's like a little tweet or sigh, and I thought it was the TOB but now I wonder if maybe it's a little vacuum noise, either a leak or by design.