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Posted By: Harrry Holocaust cartoon fair opens in Iran - 08/14/06 09:11 PM
I think this is amazing how childish this country is getting!! And other muslims that agree with him.

60 other countries also participated in this prize winning animation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060814/wl_mideast_afp/iranmediaholocaust


This s soo messed up on how they go about there lifes.!!










Originally posted by Harrry:
I think this is amazing how childish this country is getting!! And other muslims that agree with him.

60 other countries also participated in this prize winning animation.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20060814/wl_mideast_afp/iranmediaholocaust


This s soo messed up on how they go about there lifes.!!





So, this is "tit for tat" for the Western Press publishing a slightly amusing caricature of Muhamad (sp?). Funny/Sad thing is they went after the Holocaust because they know Jesus is fair game in the West.
I don't condone it but yea...its in retaliation to something that we did to "piss them off" so now they do something back and they have problems but we don't?

Bottom line is Iran/Iraq/N. Korea w/e are all messed up...But so is the USA. Every country does stuff that is rude, crude, and wrong in a sense to someone. Why do we (americans) keep jumping on others for doing things that we do too? It's plain retarded.
Idiots. Time for some more Mohammed cartoons. Maybe something where Moses is beating the crap out of him with the Ten Commandments.
Why not...I watched Carlos Mencia last night and he had like, buddah, moses, jesus, and some other dude all fighting in a ring...then the scientology starter uy came out and beat them all...then mencia pinned the scientology guy...funny stuff.
Posted By: European Re: Holocaust cartoon fair opens in Iran - 08/14/06 09:54 PM
Unbelievable.
Originally posted by posthuman63t:
Why not...I watched Carlos Mencia last night and he had like, buddah, moses, jesus, and some other dude all fighting in a ring...then the scientology starter uy came out and beat them all...then mencia pinned the scientology guy...funny stuff.



I saw that too. Funny! Cracked me up that Mohammed was invisible since he "can't be shown."
Posted By: 2000myst Re: Holocaust cartoon fair opens in Iran - 08/14/06 09:59 PM
they are all a bunch of babies. Just because some "westerners" did that makes it right for them to retaliate. They should be he "bigger, more mature man" and not do it because someone else did it. Isn't that something we learn as kids, no not just in the USA but in the world. If he does something to you should you do something back or not and be more mature.

BTW I am a Jew and I take this stuff seriously. More than just Jews died in the Holocaust. It was done out of an act of hatred due to race, religion, etc. And I guess the cartoons of Mohammed were too and they were not right. the people who did publish them were reprimanded and got in trouble. This won't go unnoticed and it wont be left alone. this is more than some joke.

Dan
Posted By: Harrry Re: Holocaust cartoon fair opens in Iran - 08/14/06 10:09 PM
The funny thing they didn't target christ they targeted the halocaust. Which is really not attacking us for the cartoons we published.


It's picking on the smaller guy which makes me think they are insecure about there religion and goverment.
I say Germany/Austria should step down to their level and just nuke em in retaliation to this. You know if Iran had the ability to nuke someone, they'd nuke them over something like disgracing Muhommad.

I mean, WTF?

Originally posted by Article:
1) "We staged this fair to explore the limits of freedom Westerners believe in."

2) "They can freely write anything they like about our prophet, but if one raises doubts about the Holocaust he is either fined or sent to prison."

3) "Though we do not deny that fact that Jews were killed in the (second world) war, why should the Palestinians pay for it?"




They're stupid for 3 reasons that go along with the quote above:

1) Ok, go ahead and 'explore.' Not like we're gonna do anything to you in your country.

2) True, but you have to 'raise doubt' in/around Germany/Austria to go to jail. Not like we're gonna go arrest everyone that attended this in Iran. This is also whey they're stupid. They got all pissy about someone disgracing Muhammad in some other country... if you disgrace Muhammad in their country, you're gonna get killed, more than likely by the government. No 'getting fined or sent to prison.'

3) What do the Palestinians have to do with the holocaust? (I might be missing something here...)
Originally posted by Big Daddy Kane:

3) What do the Palestinians have to do with the holocaust? (I might be missing something here...)



They believe that the holocaust was used as an "excuse" to give Jews their own country, which was "taken" from the Palestinians. Never mind that Egypt, Jordan, and Lebanon occupy territory that was given to the Palestinians back in the 50s/60s. They conveniently choose to ignore that fact, since those are primarily muslim countries. It's all about their hatred of the Jews, there is no logic in what they do.
The Mohammad cartoons were witty editorial statements of how Islam has been hijacked by extremists. It was a statement of reality rather than an attack. This is an attack and a statement to alter reality with propaganda.
Posted By: Harrry Re: Holocaust cartoon fair opens in Iran - 08/15/06 12:51 AM
Well isreal was orginally jewish terrioty beform they were over comed by the muslims. More travled towards west of that continent that is why there was a larger mount in germany and russia.

It was after WW2 the united states gave jewish people money tanks bombs etc, to go back and take out the people who over came there orignal spot. Since then they where pissed at us for helping them.

It was the jew's that prosecuted jesus not muslims.


SO they can cry all the want. They took it from the jew's so the jews took it back.

They all are just pissed that the jew's are near the holy land. The arabic muslims just want the land so they control all the holy land.

All they want, is everything. Do you think everything will be enoguh for them??
Originally posted by Harrry:
All they want, is everything. Do you think everything will be enoguh for them??



It will never be enough for them until every infidel is dead. Call me cynical, but there will never be peace of any kind in the middle-east. They've been killing each other for 1600 years, and they'll go on killing each other for the next 1600.
Posted By: m4gician Re: Holocaust cartoon fair opens in Iran - 08/15/06 01:50 AM
people in the middle east (the majority of them) are ignorant mother [censored]. Uneducated, always [censored] in the [censored] head. Makes me insane how they use religion to justify their every action, and they have to retaliate in childish ways. All I know is that neither side wants to be wrong, and well... this will not have a happy ending for either side.
Posted By: Harrry Re: Holocaust cartoon fair opens in Iran - 08/15/06 03:31 AM
Originally posted by m4gician:
people in the middle east (the majority of them) are ignorant mother [censored]. Uneducated, always [censored] in the [censored] head. Makes me insane how they use religion to justify their every action, and they have to retaliate in childish ways. All I know is that neither side wants to be wrong, and well... this will not have a happy ending for either side.




I wish more canadians where more like you.
Posted By: m4gician Re: Holocaust cartoon fair opens in Iran - 08/15/06 03:40 AM
sorry I offended anyone, it's just when I saw this break the news, it just made me think of children in the playground. One child insults another child and gets away with it. Instead of appealing for justice, the other child attempts to do the same and justifies his actions as retaliation and punishment done onto him would be 'unfair.' Why couldn't they take one lousy editorial cartoon in stride. Hell there are a lot of editorial cartoons in North America which are far more offensive than one little cartoon such as that. I can understand it's the Prophet which leaves room for interpretation that he and bombing and terrorism are synonomous but come on...why didn't they accept the apology or demand one? They just want a reason to go to war, and the way they use their religion to influence others of the same faith against another is just plain stupid. No religion EVER stated that death of another human being or beings was something to be carried out.

The people are ignorant IMHO because of two things, when this cartoon was published, was it the company that was held responsible? No, the DUTCH country as a whole was the one blamed. Every Dutch embassy was set a flame anywhere east of London when this should have been a matter dealt exclusively with the publishing company who published the article.
Posted By: elraido Re: Holocaust cartoon fair opens in Iran - 08/15/06 04:27 AM
Originally posted by m4gician:
people in the middle east (the majority of them) are ignorant mother [censored]. Uneducated, always [censored] in the [censored] head. Makes me insane how they use religion to justify their every action, and they have to retaliate in childish ways. All I know is that neither side wants to be wrong, and well... this will not have a happy ending for either side.



they are taught the idioligy of the iotola (how ever you spell it) in school...and that is to kill everyone who isn't muslim. it is in the freakin' text books.
Posted By: Harrry Re: Holocaust cartoon fair opens in Iran - 08/15/06 04:30 AM
Originally posted by m4gician:
sorry I offended anyone, it's just when I saw this break the news, it just made me think of children in the playground. One child insults another child and gets away with it. Instead of appealing for justice, the other child attempts to do the same and justifies his actions as retaliation and punishment done onto him would be 'unfair.' Why couldn't they take one lousy editorial cartoon in stride. Hell there are a lot of editorial cartoons in North America which are far more offensive than one little cartoon such as that. I can understand it's the Prophet which leaves room for interpretation that he and bombing and terrorism are synonomous but come on...why didn't they accept the apology or demand one? They just want a reason to go to war, and the way they use their religion to influence others of the same faith against another is just plain stupid. No religion EVER stated that death of another human being or beings was something to be carried out.

The people are ignorant IMHO because of two things, when this cartoon was published, was it the company that was held responsible? No, the DUTCH country as a whole was the one blamed. Every Dutch embassy was set a flame anywhere east of London when this should have been a matter dealt exclusively with the publishing company who published the article.






No you didn't offend me. I am glad there is people like you who live in canada.

I always hear liberal tree huggers speak out from canada
Posted By: KyleH Re: Holocaust cartoon fair opens in Iran - 08/15/06 01:23 PM
Originally posted by Harrry:
Originally posted by m4gician:
sorry I offended anyone, it's just when I saw this break the news, it just made me think of children in the playground. One child insults another child and gets away with it. Instead of appealing for justice, the other child attempts to do the same and justifies his actions as retaliation and punishment done onto him would be 'unfair.' Why couldn't they take one lousy editorial cartoon in stride. Hell there are a lot of editorial cartoons in North America which are far more offensive than one little cartoon such as that. I can understand it's the Prophet which leaves room for interpretation that he and bombing and terrorism are synonomous but come on...why didn't they accept the apology or demand one? They just want a reason to go to war, and the way they use their religion to influence others of the same faith against another is just plain stupid. No religion EVER stated that death of another human being or beings was something to be carried out.

The people are ignorant IMHO because of two things, when this cartoon was published, was it the company that was held responsible? No, the DUTCH country as a whole was the one blamed. Every Dutch embassy was set a flame anywhere east of London when this should have been a matter dealt exclusively with the publishing company who published the article.






I always hear liberal tree huggers speak out from canada




Ya we seem to have too many of them. I'm with m4gician, but I'm a quiet person and just don't tend to say much. It always annoys me when one of my friends go on a rant about how the US is stupid for doing something (usually just because it's the US ) and I'll be sitting there thinking "Man you're such a moron"
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