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Posted By: SHOgoFast using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/29/06 08:44 PM
Anyone doing their own turbo tuning with xcal2 + PRP? With group buy that is going on for the PRP I am considering picking it up since I already have an xcal2 and was wondering what some individual experiences were like tuning at home.
Posted By: Ray_dup1 Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/29/06 08:47 PM
I have a turbo that is tuned via PRP by Warmonger (prior owner of said car)

There are a few others using a PRP tune.

Burrita
Stilov
et al.
Its pretty much THE way to go.
Posted By: RobSVT-t Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/30/06 12:08 AM
I'm using the PRP for my turbo Contour.

Robert
Posted By: SHOgoFast Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/30/06 02:51 AM
Well, with that list of users, I feel confident that I too shall go the route of PRP. I really am unsure what I am getting into regarding DIY tuning. Is is really difficult?
Posted By: posthuman63t Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/30/06 03:16 AM
its not something you just pick up...Warmonger has done a good deal and I'm sure he'd be willing to help ya get started...

But like I said, don't expect to understand the whole deal a month after you get it without taking time off to do a lot of learning...(Thats where I'm at right now)
Posted By: SHOgoFast Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/30/06 04:30 AM
Is there any suggested reading one could do to increase knowledge of the tuning process? Something equivalent to Maximum Boost for turbo knowledge? I have spent some time on the SCT forums but they dont seem to be "busy" enough. Almost completely Mustang related too.
Posted By: 99cougar Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/30/06 05:13 AM
Originally posted by SHOgoFast:
Is there any suggested reading one could do to increase knowledge of the tuning process? Something equivalent to Maximum Boost for turbo knowledge? I have spent some time on the SCT forums but they dont seem to be "busy" enough. Almost completely Mustang related too.




SCT has a book that they sell. Give them a call or an e-mail and ask them about it. I think i saw somewhere that it was $75...
Posted By: JEDsContour Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/30/06 11:31 AM
Originally posted by SHOgoFast:
Is there any suggested reading one could do to increase knowledge of the tuning process? Something equivalent to Maximum Boost for turbo knowledge? I have spent some time on the SCT forums but they dont seem to be "busy" enough. Almost completely Mustang related too.



"How to Tune and Modify Engine Management Systems" by Jeff Hartman is a fun introduction to the topic. Kind of like a series of magazine quality articles on different topics and cars. No contours or PRP in it though.
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/30/06 12:30 PM
Originally posted by SHOgoFast:
Is there any suggested reading one could do to increase knowledge of the tuning process? Something equivalent to Maximum Boost for turbo knowledge? I have spent some time on the SCT forums but they dont seem to be "busy" enough. Almost completely Mustang related too.




Go to SCTs forums and just search for threads on topics that interest you. The mustang stuff is just as valid because tuning an engine on the same type of engine management system is basically the same. Mustangs just have a few different features from us but that really isn't much to learn the differences. It is the air/Fuel, spark, Fuel and such that are the most important things to learn to tune and they all tune the same way.

EEC-V is great! I coudln't even imagine buying a standalone system now when I know how powerfull the EECV is! I'd sooner buy the SCT PRP, a used computer and harness and adapt it to an engine, all for around $1000 rather than buy a standalone for up to $2000 without wiring harnesses, etc.

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Posted By: DemonSVT_dup1 Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/30/06 07:56 PM
Originally posted by warmonger:
EEC-V is great! I couldn't even imagine buying a standalone system now when I know how powerfull the EECV is! I'd sooner buy the SCT PRP, a used computer and harness and adapt it to an engine, all for around $1000 rather than buy a standalone for up to $2000 without wiring harnesses, etc.



I could not have said it better myself.
Posted By: stilov Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/31/06 12:23 AM
Just have Warmonger do it man...it isn't even worth learning. WARMONGER!!!!
Posted By: SHOgoFast Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/31/06 01:04 AM
If we lived closer together and he would take some of my money I would totally give him my car to tune.
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/31/06 03:17 AM
Originally posted by DemonSVT:
Originally posted by warmonger:
EEC-V is great! I couldn't even imagine buying a standalone system now when I know how powerfull the EECV is! I'd sooner buy the SCT PRP, a used computer and harness and adapt it to an engine, all for around $1000 rather than buy a standalone for up to $2000 without wiring harnesses, etc.



I could not have said it better myself.




It's about time you pop up around here again. Man I could of used your help a couple of days ago. I was hitting a mental block or something when tuning....but I figured it out.
I just needed to get away from the computer screen and all those tables.
Posted By: stilov Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/31/06 03:20 AM
he doesn't need your car...all you need is an xcal and a laptop and he can do it through email.
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/31/06 01:03 PM
Originally posted by SHOgoFast:
If we lived closer together and he would take some of my money I would totally give him my car to tune.




Yeah, I can tune your car via email if you already have an xcal2.

It just takes a bit more commitment from me and from you to do it then just one afternoon on a dyno. You will need to do a series of datalogs and I'll look at all the information and produce a base tune. Then subsequent datalogs will allow us to dial things in.


If anyone wants tuning done by me, now is the time to get it done. I'm jumping on any tuning job while I have some off-time at work.
Posted By: SHOgoFast Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/31/06 03:18 PM
Im gonna have to take you up on that offer...will I need the PRP to have tuning done by you Tom? I already have the Xcal2 and some base tunes from ADC.

Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: using PRP to tune turbo tour - 08/31/06 09:31 PM
Originally posted by SHOgoFast:
Im gonna have to take you up on that offer...will I need the PRP to have tuning done by you Tom? I already have the Xcal2 and some base tunes from ADC.






No. You just need to download the latest xcal2 drivers for windows, and download the latest version of extremeTune software, I think it is 1.6xx something or other. You can then just plug in your xcal2 with a usb cable, and use extreme tune to load the tune into an empty slot.

If you want me to tune for you, PM me your request with your pcm code and we'll go from there.
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