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Posted By: TourDeForce 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/20/06 08:25 PM
I hope it will be happening in the not so distant future. I've got a Dragon Run coming up in June & would like the brake upgrade available & on my car in May so I can wear things in properly & put a few miles on the kit before hitting the mountain roads.

Is a timeline or progress update available?

<=== (* sips last drop of scotch, tosses empty bottle into trash can *)
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/24/06 08:25 PM
Within 15 days I pull the trigger on the new brake kit.

FSVT or the new CEGer conversion....
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 01:07 AM
Talk to Stazi about this if you are still interested. I'm waiting on him to give feedback for the rear kit I sent. I also sent a second front kit out for testing on a stock E0 SVT with stock rims and I'm waiting for the results on that as well. A little more feedback has been necessary to correct some alignment issues on the front kit in that car but still things had been looking good.
Posted By: Todd TCE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 02:05 AM
Wow, that's a pretty big rotor!
Won't need wheels I guess. LOL
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 03:36 AM
Originally posted by Todd TCE:
Wow, that's a pretty big rotor!
Won't need wheels I guess. LOL




Need all the brakes you can get on the Dragon.

What sold me was the fade resistance reported by Demon. The importance of resisting fade was brought home one day as I was descending from Lookout Mountain in Tennessee. I was driving an '88 Grand Marquis with smoking brakes, red hot rotors and no more stopping power. Made a hard right at an uphill turnoff & got the car stopped at a 300' drop with the guard rail 3 inches from my bumper.

You never really know what is meant by sweatin' bullets until a moment like that.
Posted By: tropictour Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 06:00 AM
Thanks for the update War. Im in a soon as the brackets are figured out. This is one thing on the car that we shouldnt rush on the R&D.
-tropictour
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 11:33 AM
Originally posted by Todd TCE:
Wow, that's a pretty big rotor!
Won't need wheels I guess. LOL




Yea, lol.
It fills up the stock hardware completely and near stock harware pretty well. After going through the measurements on the FSVT wheels I had it ended up that I couldn't keep those rims and still get one of your nice brake kits unless I ended up with just the similar sized 12" rotors with the high dollar calipers. To me it wasn't worth an extra $1000 over FSVT brakes to keep my current rims and get better brakes. So it was either shell out $1800 to convert over to yours, or this.
So economics took over at that point.
For me to have gotten your larger rotors I'd have had to add another $1000 just for an average set of rims and tires. I admit I wasn't about to put in another $3K to the car when just the FSVT upgrade would suffice as I only needed a moderate increase in breaking performance.
Posted By: Stazi Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 12:46 PM
I'll be testing out the rear kit this weekend.
Posted By: Steeda. Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 02:53 PM
on my car?
Posted By: Pudmunkie Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 03:01 PM
Originally posted by Decepticon:
on my car?




No no me! my rear brakes are pissing me the hell off!
Posted By: Stazi Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 04:05 PM
Steeda, that'd be like putting lipstick on a pig.
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 04:38 PM
Originally posted by Stazi:
I'll be testing out the rear kit this weekend.




<=== (* raises hand *)

Question: Am I safe to assume that the temporary spare will fit over the rear brakes?

If not, it should be noted that a full sized 16" spare will be required - Just in case.

Posted By: Steeda. Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 05:57 PM
Originally posted by Stazi:
Steeda, that'd be like putting lipstick on a pig.




Ill test the rears and buy the pad and rotors from you at the same time
Posted By: 96BlackSE Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 06:14 PM
I think he is refering to the title of the thread "300mm x 280mm" brake upgrade... that would be one big rotor!

Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by Todd TCE:
Wow, that's a pretty big rotor!
Won't need wheels I guess. LOL




Yea, lol.
It fills up the stock hardware completely and near stock harware pretty well. After going through the measurements on the FSVT wheels I had it ended up that I couldn't keep those rims and still get one of your nice brake kits unless I ended up with just the similar sized 12" rotors with the high dollar calipers. To me it wasn't worth an extra $1000 over FSVT brakes to keep my current rims and get better brakes. So it was either shell out $1800 to convert over to yours, or this.
So economics took over at that point.
For me to have gotten your larger rotors I'd have had to add another $1000 just for an average set of rims and tires. I admit I wasn't about to put in another $3K to the car when just the FSVT upgrade would suffice as I only needed a moderate increase in breaking performance.




Posted By: KingpinSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 06:49 PM
Originally posted by 96BlackSE:
I think he is refering to the title of the thread "300mm x 280mm" brake upgrade... that would be one big rotor!






Whaa? Me = confused
Posted By: Mod-deth Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 06:54 PM
Originally posted by KingpinSVT:
Originally posted by 96BlackSE:
I think he is refering to the title of the thread "300mm x 280mm" brake upgrade... that would be one big rotor!






Whaa? Me = confused




Because usually a rotor is 300mm x 15mm (diameter x thickness), where in the title it says 300mm x 280mm...which would make the rotor more like a Flintstone wheel!

Get it!?
Posted By: KingpinSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/26/06 06:56 PM
Yeah, now I do. I just automatically associated the 280 with the rear, not width as the title has. I couldnt figure out what was wrong. Thanks
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 lol - 04/26/06 07:15 PM
Well yea! Flintstone rotors are the best because you never get any brake fade due to all the added mass. You think if they figured it out in the stone age you guys would get it by now....
Geez
Posted By: F5R Cobra Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/27/06 12:57 AM
I'm in, I want to get rid of my wimpy looking stock rotors!



Thanks, Pat
Posted By: Stazi Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/27/06 01:31 AM
Originally posted by F5R Cobra:
I'm in, I want to get rid of my wimpy looking stock rotors!



Thanks, Pat




I can't even see your rotors - thanks for the pic anyway.
Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/27/06 01:38 AM
haha ,no kidding, oh well
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/27/06 02:08 AM
Put some caps on those ST200s or sell them to me.
Posted By: F5R Cobra Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/27/06 02:38 AM
"I can't even see your rotors" Yes, that is a problem!
Posted By: Stazi Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 04/27/06 06:34 PM
Originally posted by F5R Cobra:
"I can't even see your rotors" Yes, that is a problem!



Let me rephrase that - I can't see SH!$, let alone rotors or anything.

i.e. bad picture to use.
Posted By: Mod-deth Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/09/06 04:22 PM
If I understand this correctly, the brackets for the front will only fit the E1 (smaller) caliper?

War, will I need new (to me) E1 calipers, or calipers and brackets as well to even fit to your adapter?

The reason I ask, is that I have E0 calipers.

TIA
Posted By: Stazi Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/09/06 04:40 PM
Seeing as all Contour knuckles are identical, I DOUBT that the bracket that is going to be used on the E1 SVT calipers would NEED be different to work on E0 SVT calipers. Hence I think the kit will work for ALL SVT's, E0 and E1.
Posted By: Mod-deth Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/09/06 06:08 PM
Originally posted by Stazi:
Seeing as all Contour knuckles are identical, I DOUBT that the bracket that is going to be used on the E1 SVT calipers would NEED be different to work on E0 SVT calipers. Hence I think the kit will work for ALL SVT's, E0 and E1.




Thanks Stazi!
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/19/06 09:17 PM
Bump.

I'm ordering brakes next week, so I guess I'm out for the full kit. I might upgrade the rears with this kit later, if the option is available.

Posted By: Tourige Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/21/06 06:17 AM
This upgrade(with baer replacement FSVT rotors) should be sufficient for a Turbo 3L right?
Posted By: Ray_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/21/06 03:21 PM
I would certainly hope so.. Its what I am running and I have ZERO.. ZERO... ZERO complaints about it.

Posted By: tropictour Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/22/06 02:53 AM
Anyone have an idea of a time frame for the kits availability? I am doing the fronts only so I can just shift those back when the brackets are ready.
-tropictour
Posted By: ExDelayed_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/22/06 08:34 AM
Im intrested in the completion date as well. The Cougar is almost road worthy and this would fill its OE 17s nicely (along with the FSVT kit).

On a different note, the regular donut spare doesnt fit the 280 mm rotors, does it? People might need/want to look for the SVT spare before there is a side of the road suprise. I recently picked one up for my car and was suprised at how light it was.
Posted By: morbid Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/22/06 04:57 PM
I try not to go OT too often... but since someone already mentioned the spare issue. Does anyone know if there's any place that sells aftermarket spares? I'd be interested in a lightweight and/or larger rim spare... but not full size (that's not very light). I probably spent 1/2 a day googling around and couldn't even find alternative spare tires
Posted By: Big Jim_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/23/06 03:25 AM
I would guess that the Focus SVT spare might work. I also wonder if the SVT and Cougar spare might work.
Posted By: ExDelayed_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/23/06 03:41 AM
Originally posted by Big Jim:
I would guess that the Focus SVT spare might work. I also wonder if the SVT and Cougar spare might work.



The FSVT donut's tire might be smaller then the Contour/Cougar spare. If the wheels are the same size, the standard Contour spare tire could possibly fit onto the FSVT wheel. I cant respond with what kind of setup the large brake Cougar came with as my car's previous owner removed it to save weight (maybe to help shave off some of the weight of the bodykit?). I grabbed the CSVT spare just in case either way.

As for finding one, Swazo has one for sale in the classifieds.
Posted By: tropictour Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/23/06 09:54 PM
Has anyone tried fitting a full size E0 or E1 spare with a tire mounted in the trunk? That would be ideal IMO.
-tropictour
Posted By: RandyCSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/24/06 04:18 AM
is there an approx date on when these will be available?
Posted By: Pole120 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/24/06 04:19 AM
Originally posted by RandyCSVT:
is there an approx date on when these will be available?




W3RD
Posted By: LoveMySVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/24/06 05:46 AM
I am also interested in seeing the outcome of this. In need of new brakes soon and this is just what I'm looking for.

- Chris
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/24/06 03:20 PM
Just pulled the trigger on FSVT brakes, so I'll only be interested in the brackets - maybe.
Posted By: Steeda. Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/24/06 04:14 PM
I need the rear brackets! Come on! lets do dis eh
Posted By: Stazi Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/24/06 09:36 PM
I will have more time to devote to this project now SZ is over. Stay tuned.
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/25/06 01:57 AM
Jim - don't post drunk.
Stazi - I'm interested in a big rear brake set up.


I've got FSVT front brakes and they're t!ts.
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/25/06 03:06 AM
Originally posted by ChattavegasSE:
Jim - don't post drunk.




DAMMIT!!!!
Posted By: hmouta_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/27/06 09:26 PM
if were talking about the fsvt 300mm rotors then shouldnt the fsvt spare be made to fit the 300mm rotors on that very car? if the csvt spare doesnt fit, the fsvt has got to be the next alternate
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/28/06 12:34 AM
Originally posted by hmouta:
if were talking about the fsvt 300mm rotors then shouldnt the fsvt spare be made to fit the 300mm rotors on that very car? if the csvt spare doesnt fit, the fsvt has got to be the next alternate




Just move a good wheel/tire from the rear and put it onto the front, then put the spare on the rear. Problem solved and it would be smarter to have the full size tire on the drive and/or turning wheels.


As far as the brakes, we just got a second test set installed on the fronts in the last few weeks in order to get independent testing impressions. A few small changes needed to be made to the fronts to improve the fit.
Posted By: tropictour Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/28/06 12:40 AM
SOunds great War. I think everyone just wanted kind of a progress report. Im sure everyone is as axious as I am.
-tropictour
Posted By: Bronco_WRX Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/29/06 12:19 AM
Originally posted by LoveMySVT:
I am also interested in seeing the outcome of this. In need of new brakes soon and this is just what I'm looking for.



Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/29/06 05:29 PM
Just FYI, at this time I am ONLY going to work on this if/when Stazi gets his project done and decides there is enough interest to make a go of it. In the meantime, we'll let BigJim finish testing out his fronts and see what kind of feedback he gives in addition to the fitment corrections he recently sent me.
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/29/06 06:25 PM
So do we need to make an interest check thread?
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/29/06 08:52 PM
Originally posted by warmonger:
Just move a good wheel/tire from the rear and put it onto the front, then put the spare on the rear.




Exactly! I would NEVER put a spare tire on, anywhere but the back.

Mark
Posted By: tropictour Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/29/06 09:36 PM
Originally posted by ChattavegasSE:
So do we need to make an interest check thread?



1. tropictour
2.
3.
4.
5.
-tropictour
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/29/06 10:21 PM
1. tropictour
2. ChattavegasSE
3.
4.
5.
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/29/06 11:03 PM
1. tropictour
2. ChattavegasSE
3. Kremit
4.
5.
Posted By: Tourige Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/29/06 11:17 PM
1. tropictour
2. ChattavegasSE
3. Kremit
4. Tourige
5.
Posted By: Pole120 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/30/06 01:07 AM
1. tropictour
2. ChattavegasSE
3. Kremit
4. Tourige
5. Pole120
Posted By: LoveMySVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/30/06 04:17 AM
1. tropictour
2. ChattavegasSE
3. Kremit
4. Tourige
5. Pole120
6. LoveMySVT
Posted By: SVTGT350 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/30/06 04:59 AM
For those of us that have already done the FSVT upgrade on the front, will/are the brackets for the rear available.

Does the 280mm rotor from the CSVT need to be machined thinner to fit the rear caliper or is this not an issue.

-SVTGT350

Posted By: Bronco_WRX Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/30/06 06:24 AM
1. tropictour
2. ChattavegasSE
3. Kremit
4. Tourige
5. Pole120
6. LoveMySVT
7. Bronco_3LSVT
Posted By: BloodyTomFlint Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/30/06 12:35 PM
1. tropictour
2. ChattavegasSE
3. Kremit
4. Tourige
5. Pole120
6. LoveMySVT
7. Bronco_3LSVT
8. BloodyTomFlint
Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/30/06 01:34 PM
Originally posted by BloodyTomFlint:
1. CEG


fixed.
Posted By: rkneeshaw Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/30/06 02:50 PM
1. tropictour
2. ChattavegasSE
3. Kremit
4. Tourige
5. Pole120
6. LoveMySVT
7. Bronco_3LSVT
8. BloodyTomFlint
9. rkneeshaw3.0
Posted By: morbid Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/30/06 05:17 PM
1. tropictour
2. ChattavegasSE
3. Kremit
4. Tourige
5. Pole120
6. LoveMySVT
7. Bronco_3LSVT
8. BloodyTomFlint
9. rkneeshaw3.0

Incase it matters for the interest check, I've listed the below. If it doesn't matter, someone can add me to the above list.
Rear only kit:
1. morbid
Posted By: Hdbngr8 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/30/06 06:12 PM
1. tropictour
2. ChattavegasSE
3. Kremit
4. Tourige
5. Pole120
6. LoveMySVT
7. Bronco_3LSVT
8. BloodyTomFlint
9. rkneeshaw3.0

Incase it matters for the interest check, I've listed the below. If it doesn't matter, someone can add me to the above list.
Rear only kit:
1. morbid
2. hdbngr8 (bracket only)
Posted By: Tourige Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/30/06 06:43 PM
1. tropictour
2. ChattavegasSE
3. Kremit
4. Tourige (brackets only)
5. Pole120
6. LoveMySVT
7. Bronco_3LSVT
8. BloodyTomFlint
9. rkneeshaw3.0

Incase it matters for the interest check, I've listed the below. If it doesn't matter, someone can add me to the above list.
Rear only kit:
1. morbid
2. hdbngr8 (bracket only)
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/30/06 09:25 PM
1. tropictour
2. Kremit
3. Tourige (brackets only)
4. Pole120
5. LoveMySVT
6. Bronco_3LSVT
7. BloodyTomFlint
8. rkneeshaw3.0

Incase it matters for the interest check, I've listed the below. If it doesn't matter, someone can add me to the above list.
Rear only kit:
1. morbid
2. hdbngr8 (bracket only)
3. ChattavegasSE
Posted By: RandyCSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/30/06 10:13 PM
1. tropictour
2. Kremit
3. Tourige (brackets only)
4. Pole120
5. LoveMySVT
6. Bronco_3LSVT
7. BloodyTomFlint
8. rkneeshaw3.0
9. RandyCSVT

Incase it matters for the interest check, I've listed the below. If it doesn't matter, someone can add me to the above list.
Rear only kit:
1. morbid
2. hdbngr8 (bracket only)
3. ChattavegasSE
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/30/06 11:10 PM
Whole kit: (front and rear)
1. tropictour
2. Kremit
3. Tourige (brackets only)
4. Pole120
5. LoveMySVT
6. Bronco_3LSVT
7. BloodyTomFlint
8. rkneeshaw3.0
9. RandyCSVT

Rear only kit:
1. morbid
2. hdbngr8 (bracket only)
3. ChattavegasSE


There we go, clean and stream-lined.
Posted By: 98SVTC Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/30/06 11:18 PM
Originally posted by RandyCSVT:
1. tropictour
2. Kremit
3. Tourige (brackets only)
4. Pole120
5. LoveMySVT
6. Bronco_3LSVT
7. BloodyTomFlint
8. rkneeshaw3.0
9. RandyCSVT
10. 88SVT

Incase it matters for the interest check, I've listed the below. If it doesn't matter, someone can add me to the above list.
Rear only kit:
1. morbid
2. hdbngr8 (bracket only)
3. ChattavegasSE


Posted By: F5R Cobra Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/31/06 12:19 AM
Originally posted by 88SVT:
Originally posted by RandyCSVT:
1. tropictour
2. Kremit
3. Tourige (brackets only)
4. Pole120
5. LoveMySVT
6. Bronco_3LSVT
7. BloodyTomFlint
8. rkneeshaw3.0
9. RandyCSVT
10. 88SVT
11. F5R Cobra

Incase it matters for the interest check, I've listed the below. If it doesn't matter, someone can add me to the above list.

Rear only kit:
1. morbid
2. hdbngr8 (bracket only)
3. ChattavegasSE





Posted By: SVTGT350 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/31/06 03:59 AM
1. tropictour
2. Kremit
3. Tourige (brackets only)
4. Pole120
5. LoveMySVT
6. Bronco_3LSVT
7. BloodyTomFlint
8. rkneeshaw3.0
9. RandyCSVT
10. 88SVT
11. F5R Cobra

Incase it matters for the interest check, I've listed the below. If it doesn't matter, someone can add me to the above list.

Rear only kit:
1. morbid
2. hdbngr8 (bracket only)
3. ChattavegasSE
4. SVTGT350
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/31/06 03:01 PM
OKAY OKAY! I get the point. You guys want these kits. Let me make another trip to my fabricator to see what its gonna cost me to get the cad drawings changed for these updates I got from the real world testing, and a few other details. Then I'll get back to this. At a minimum I'd like to make back the money and time I invested in making this setup.
Posted By: Pudmunkie Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/31/06 03:21 PM
Well Ill be broke as hell for awhile, but I deff want these eventually!
Posted By: ExDelayed_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/31/06 03:35 PM
Originally posted by SVTGT350:
Rear only kit:
1. morbid
2. hdbngr8 (bracket only)
3. ChattavegasSE
4. SVTGT350
5. ExDelayed


Posted By: ExDelayed_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/31/06 03:35 PM
Originally posted by SVTGT350:
Rear only kit:
1. morbid
2. hdbngr8 (bracket only)
3. ChattavegasSE
4. SVTGT350
5. ExDelayed


Posted By: BloodyTomFlint Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/31/06 03:40 PM
Originally posted by warmonger:
OKAY OKAY! I get the point. You guys want these kits. Let me make another trip to my fabricator to see what its gonna cost me to get the cad drawings changed for these updates I got from the real world testing, and a few other details. Then I'll get back to this. At a minimum I'd like to make back the money and time I invested in making this setup.





I can change the drawings for free.
Posted By: ContourGuy9817 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 05/31/06 07:29 PM
and im waiting, cash money!
Posted By: ExDelayed_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/01/06 05:22 AM
Doh. Double post.
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/01/06 02:02 PM
Probably, but the guys software is specific to the cutting machine and at the time that is where he created them from the design. So the machine can take a true cad drawing and convert, but his is already converted since he punched it in that way and it doesn't convert backward. Whatever, it won't require that much of a change. I just need a reasonable guess as to the amount of kits I need so I can estimate material costs and such.
Posted By: BloodyTomFlint Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/01/06 02:11 PM
Gotcha.
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/01/06 04:17 PM
Welp, put me down for two sets of brackets.

I'll have the FSVT kit (on the way now) installed on one car, but if this will allow me to run the FSVT calipers & rotors without having to use spacers, I'll feel a lot better about that...

Posted By: T-RED 98 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/02/06 03:13 PM
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Rear only kit:
1. morbid
2. hdbngr8 (bracket only)
3. ChattavegasSE
4. SVTGT350
5. ExDelayed
6. T-Red 98 (bracket only)
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/02/06 03:30 PM
Do we have an estimate/ballpark idea of how much the brackets only will cost? $50? $100? $200? I can't even begin to guess, so maybe a rough idea of what they'll cost would get my attention. I know I'd like to do this, but don't want to be 100% in until I have an idea of what I'm getting into with price.

Mark
Posted By: Tourige Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/02/06 10:48 PM
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Do we have an estimate/ballpark idea of how much the brackets only will cost? $50? $100? $200? I can't even begin to guess, so maybe a rough idea of what they'll cost would get my attention. I know I'd like to do this, but don't want to be 100% in until I have an idea of what I'm getting into with price.

Mark




I dont see them being more than 100 bucks.. Thats pretty nuts.
Posted By: ZomzSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/03/06 02:28 AM
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Do we have an estimate/ballpark idea of how much the brackets only will cost? $50? $100? $200? I can't even begin to guess, so maybe a rough idea of what they'll cost would get my attention. I know I'd like to do this, but don't want to be 100% in until I have an idea of what I'm getting into with price.

Mark




I dont see them being more than 100 bucks.. Thats pretty nuts.




1. tropictour
2. Kremit
3. Tourige (brackets only)
4. Pole120
5. LoveMySVT
6. Bronco_3LSVT
7. BloodyTomFlint
8. rkneeshaw3.0
9. RandyCSVT
10. 88SVT
11. F5R Cobra
12. ZomzSVT (possibly brackets only, depends on prices etc)

( I'm sure this was covered, and from what I've read in the FAQ and stuff it will work fine with the E0 calipers and E0 wheels, correct? )
Posted By: mamisano_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/03/06 03:43 AM
Add me in Front and Rear. Thanks

1. tropictour
2. Kremit
3. Tourige (brackets only)
4. Pole120
5. LoveMySVT
6. Bronco_3LSVT
7. BloodyTomFlint
8. rkneeshaw3.0
9. RandyCSVT
10. 88SVT
11. F5R Cobra
12. ZomzSVT
13. MAmisano
Posted By: Big Jim_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/03/06 04:55 AM
They do work with E0 wheels and calipers. I did the beta test for E0 and they fit fine.
Posted By: ExDelayed_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/19/06 07:13 AM
Bumpity bump. Any news?
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/21/06 09:43 PM
Originally posted by ExDelayed:
Bumpity bump. Any news?



I'm wondering too.
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/22/06 12:50 AM
I've got the adjustments figured out and I just need to get off my butt and go see the fabricator again. It's a ways away for me and I have to get the time during the work day and work week to do it. I'll be getting some morning time soon.

Posted By: ExDelayed_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/22/06 01:25 AM
The Cougar comes home tomorrow and it needs something to fill up its 17s. Im not going to get to do anything to it for the next five weeks (away for work) but I want to see this happen.
Posted By: tropictour Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/22/06 02:05 AM
Originally posted by warmonger:
I've got the adjustments figured out and I just need to get off my butt and go see the fabricator again. It's a ways away for me and I have to get the time during the work day and work week to do it. I'll be getting some morning time soon.





I think its great that you no longer own a Contour but your following through with this anyway. We all appreciate it and I feel like its going to be a great addition. Thanks again.
-tropictour
Posted By: RandyCSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 06/22/06 03:43 AM
warmonger is my hero!
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/05/06 08:12 PM
Originally posted by warmonger:
I've got the adjustments figured out and I just need to get off my butt and go see the fabricator again. It's a ways away for me and I have to get the time during the work day and work week to do it. I'll be getting some morning time soon.




Any further progress as yet? I'm sure the holiday weekend slowed things down a bit, but now that the Dragon Run is over, I ready to get back to modding.

or depending on your perspective...
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/06/06 05:48 AM
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:
I've got the adjustments figured out and I just need to get off my butt and go see the fabricator again. It's a ways away for me and I have to get the time during the work day and work week to do it. I'll be getting some morning time soon.




Any further progress as yet? I'm sure the holiday weekend slowed things down a bit, but now that the Dragon Run is over, I ready to get back to modding.

or depending on your perspective...




YES! I did go and see the gentleman just today in fact, around 2pm. I had to wait till I was working nights again to get down to the city and talk about the changes. I should have word in a couple of days. That's the good news. The bad news is I have to change to a different style cutting machine to improve the tolerances on the parts in order to eliminate the fitment issue variations I faced on the prototype bracketry. This machine costs more to run and of course in order to validate it and the brackets it spits out, I will have to pay up front for a set or two, test them for fitment AGAIN, then if all goes well arrange a large batch and group-buy to distribute the costs. Not perfect or the best answer but give me a few days.

Also, the good news is that both people running sets of front brakes adapter brackets report excellent improvement in braking and so far no issues once they got everything mounted. The hardware so far has proved to be strong enough and well worth the costs. But don't ask me costs right now till after I get this next set made and tested. Then I'll set up a group buy. Don't anyone ask me anything other than "are we there yet? Are we there yet...." until I put out more information. When I'm ready I'll post all the information.
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/06/06 12:48 PM
Originally posted by warmonger:
"are we there yet? Are we there yet...."






Wasn't expecting that from you...
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/09/06 03:04 PM
Okay, the preliminary estimate is too high.
The cost to use the waterjet machine and cut these brackets is so high that it wouldn't be cost effective. I need to tighten up the tolerances when they are produced but I need it to be more precise so there is no fitment issues, or minimal issues later.

The first way I built them that they were cut on a plasma machine and then I drilled them. I don't have precision drilling and in order to do that it costs more $. So I'm going to research getting them cut on a plasma then having the holes drilled and tapped at a machine shop afterwards. Still more expensive but maybe cheaper than the waterjet.
Posted By: Pole120 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/10/06 01:15 AM
Well, after just running my first on-track event on saturday i've decided...i NEED this......
Posted By: Tourige Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/10/06 01:37 AM
Originally posted by Pole120:
Well, after just running my first on-track event on saturday i've decided...i NEED this......




brakes were a little crappy past 70? heh, yea mine were pretty bad for a while tell the pads started to heat up, But then the pedal started to feel spongy and i knew she needed a break.
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/10/06 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Pole120:
Well, after just running my first on-track event on saturday i've decided...i NEED this......




Trust me, YOU DO! It takes a bit of work but when all four wheels are fat and happy, the brake bias is preserved like stock and you will have more brake power than you have traction...meaning you will be hitting ABS more often than you ever would have with stock brakes. And that is with wider tires too!

I'll be calling the guy again today.
Posted By: Auto-X Fil Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/10/06 05:58 PM
Originally posted by Pole120:
Well, after just running my first on-track event on saturday i've decided...i NEED this......




What pads were you running?
Posted By: Pole120 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/10/06 06:40 PM
Originally posted by Auto-X Fil:
Originally posted by Pole120:
Well, after just running my first on-track event on saturday i've decided...i NEED this......




What pads were you running?




Nothing special, Motorcraft....
Posted By: Hdbngr8 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/10/06 08:07 PM
Say it with me, bro - WIL-WOODS!

Posted By: nadthomas Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/10/06 09:16 PM
I would be interested in a set of rear brackets.
Posted By: Tourige Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/10/06 10:19 PM
Originally posted by Hdbngr8:
Say it with me, bro - WIL-WOODS!






CHA CHING!!!!
Posted By: Steeda. Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/11/06 04:19 PM
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by Hdbngr8:
Say it with me, bro - WIL-WOODS!






CHA CHING!!!!




Wilwoods = Crappy Calipers!!!

Brembo>Wilwood
Posted By: Hdbngr8 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/11/06 05:16 PM
You can say that once you put Brembos on your car. Otherwise - STFU!!
Posted By: Steeda. Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/11/06 05:20 PM
Originally posted by Hdbngr8:
You can say that once you put Brembos on your car. Otherwise - STFU!!




Give it some time!!! its in the works. Plus i have read enough about failing wilwood cal's for me never to buy them
Posted By: Hdbngr8 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/11/06 05:29 PM
Where have you read/seen that?
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/11/06 05:31 PM
Originally posted by Decepticon:
Originally posted by Hdbngr8:
You can say that once you put Brembos on your car. Otherwise - STFU!!




Give it some time!!! its in the works.




What is in the works?

Mark
Posted By: Hdbngr8 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/11/06 05:33 PM
Sounds like he is looking to put some Brembos on his car.
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/11/06 05:55 PM
Originally posted by Hdbngr8:
Sounds like he is looking to put some Brembos on his car.




What car? He sold his SVT and bought a motorcycle....

Mark
Posted By: Hdbngr8 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/11/06 05:57 PM
I didn't know that. I thought the bike was still in impound
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/14/06 04:43 PM
Okay, I've found a reasonable estimate for lasercut. I commissioned a single front and rear to be cut so that I can compare them to the brackets that are already in use. If the fit is good then I can get a batch cut.
It will take 5 days or so to get the new prototypes and then at least another few days for one of the people who did prototype testing to swap them out on their car and compare the fit. If all goes well with the fitment and no changes are needed then we'll run it.
The problem is that I have to run off a large amount in order to bring the costs down. I haven't finalized the costs because I still have to compute final machining cost and find an alternate source for one of the parts. When this is done I will get back on and post a price for the fronts, rears, shipping, and timeframe. At that point if everyone is still interested then I will move it to the group-buy forum. When we get it to the group buy forum it will be up to all of you to help get the Cougar guys in on it and let FCO know as well in order to make it happen.
The only thing I can assure you is that they will be significantly less than the FSVT kit (including you buying your own rotors factored in), and that both the front and rear together (with all estimated costs) it will still pull in less than the FSVT kit by itself.

Its been six months of continuous use on three different SVTs across America. The rear kit has been in use on my old car since September of 2005, and another car since January so we are moving towards the one year mark for reliability testing with them. Although some of you are anxious I encourage you to look at the bright side, in that from both winter into summer with the variety of driving types that those seasons can allow, this hardware has perfromed above expectations. Sometimes waiting is good.
Posted By: Ray_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/14/06 05:25 PM
My set is still holding on strong. I can't believe the additional force this setup adds. I get used to it, then hop in a buddies SVT and the braking is just. wow. its phenomenal what this does to your stopping ability. SO much firmer!


Posted By: Pole120 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/14/06 05:38 PM
Thanks VERY much for the time and effort you've put into this. What exactly should we expect to be included in the kit
Posted By: Big Jim_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/14/06 07:04 PM
I just want to add my comments to Ray's. Now that I'm accostomed to the better brake performance from the bigger rotors, I just can't imagine going back to the original size. The difference is significant.

My subjective opinion is that the braking has improved in the neighborhood of 15% to 20%. I have no test data to support it, just my feeling.

And I only have the fronts. I'm really looking forward to getting the rears done too. I know the rears won't make nearly as much difference, but it will sure look better to have something that isn't as wimpy looking as the stock rears.
Posted By: RTStabler51_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/14/06 07:32 PM
Originally posted by Big Jim:
I just want to add my comments to Ray's. Now that I'm accostomed to the better brake performance from the bigger rotors, I just can't imagine going back to the original size. The difference is significant.

My subjective opinion is that the braking has improved in the neighborhood of 15% to 20%. I have no test data to support it, just my feeling.

And I only have the fronts. I'm really looking forward to getting the rears done too. I know the rears won't make nearly as much difference, but it will sure look better to have something that isn't as wimpy looking as the stock rears.


I don't think people fully understand how adding brake power really compliments any car. I know in my SHO, doing the 96 brake up grade, it was the best money I spent on the car. I'm sure the same is for these cars.
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/14/06 08:10 PM
Originally posted by RTStabler51:
Originally posted by Big Jim:
I just want to add my comments to Ray's. Now that I'm accostomed to the better brake performance from the bigger rotors, I just can't imagine going back to the original size. The difference is significant.

My subjective opinion is that the braking has improved in the neighborhood of 15% to 20%. I have no test data to support it, just my feeling.

And I only have the fronts. I'm really looking forward to getting the rears done too. I know the rears won't make nearly as much difference, but it will sure look better to have something that isn't as wimpy looking as the stock rears.


I don't think people fully understand how adding brake power really compliments any car. I know in my SHO, doing the 96 brake up grade, it was the best money I spent on the car. I'm sure the same is for these cars.




Brakes is the one area of my cars performance that I have REALLY WANTED to improve, but the acceptable alternatives are so expensive ($1000 or more) that I just work on the other things.

These brackets or the FSVT kit are EXACTLY the thing that will get me to take the plunge. OEM durability parts & good pricing.

Posted By: Pudmunkie Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/14/06 08:12 PM
I cant wait to pick up a set of these

thank you for everything you do tom, you go above and beyond for us. Make sure you come to spring zing 07, I owe you a drink!
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/14/06 08:58 PM
So anxious. I'll be ready.
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/14/06 10:30 PM
This thread is making me feel funny in my pants.

Mark
Posted By: 99 red SVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/15/06 09:00 PM
then take your hands out of your pockets...
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/23/06 01:48 PM
Any updates? I keep tripping over the rear hubs on my porch. They need new rotors/pads, but I want to wait for these rear brackets to get the larger rear rotors.


Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/23/06 03:39 PM
Based on Warmonger's last post, I'd expect an interest check & rough price next week, or at the latest the week after. The final price & group buy should follow the next day 'cause I'm sure there are CEGers & Cougar owners lining up for these.

Warmonger: I need two full sets for my SE & LS btw.

And just in case it's OK to get the interest check/GB started early....

1. TourDeForce - two full sets of brackets

Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/23/06 06:18 PM
I just need rear caliper brackets!!!
Posted By: "shotty driving"-ds Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/23/06 07:50 PM
1. TourDeForce - two full sets of brackets
2. "shotty driving"-ds - One full set
Posted By: Harrry Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/23/06 09:01 PM
Originally posted by "shotty driving"-ds:
1. TourDeForce - two full sets of brackets
2. "shotty driving"-ds - One full set




lol guys, warmonger said he will start a group buy in the group buy section. Not in this post lol.
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/23/06 09:07 PM
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he knows everyone wants em.
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/23/06 10:04 PM
I was just playin'.
Posted By: "shotty driving"-ds Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/24/06 02:03 AM
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he knows everyone wants em.




Well I wan't them first.
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/24/06 11:30 PM
Still waiting on the call to pick up the newer prototypes. I will probably call him tomorrow.
Posted By: Pole120 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/25/06 12:09 AM
<--

Most likely in for 2 sets

Can't waite
Posted By: Pudmunkie Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/25/06 12:17 AM
ill have the car torn apart for suspension stuff shortly, ill be in for a set. Or a set + FSVT rotors and rear pads if you do this in conjunction with stazi
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/25/06 02:11 AM
Originally posted by "shotty driving"-ds:
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure he knows everyone wants em.




Well I wan't them first.



I'm closer.
Warmonger, let me know if you need any test fittings under aftermarket 16"s or 17"s.
Posted By: Ray_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/25/06 02:23 AM
Originally posted by Kremit:
aftermarket 16s



and TIGHT FITTING (edit)17's(edit) might I add! THOSE have a LOT less clearance than I thought that they would.
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/25/06 02:25 AM
I'll consider it IF you can drive over here for the test fitting, pictures, measurements, etc. THat would make it a LOT faster if I need to make changes because I can see what needs to be done.
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/25/06 02:26 AM
Originally posted by Ray:
Originally posted by Kremit:
aftermarket 16s



and TIGHT FITTING 16's might I add! THOSE have a LOT less clearance than I thought that they would.





Did you mean 17"s? Cuz yeah the spokes go in pretty far on them. The 16"s I got look to have good clearance.
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/25/06 02:29 AM
Originally posted by warmonger:
I'll consider it IF you can drive over here for the test fitting, pictures, measurements, etc. THat would make it a LOT faster if I need to make changes because I can see what needs to be done.



Yeah I can do it, any sunday or friday.
Posted By: Ray_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/25/06 02:30 AM
Oops.. I meant 17's yeah.. fat fingered that one.
Posted By: Tourige Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/25/06 03:26 AM
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
Originally posted by Ray:
Originally posted by Kremit:
aftermarket 16s



and TIGHT FITTING 16's might I add! THOSE have a LOT less clearance than I thought that they would.





Did you mean 17"s? Cuz yeah the spokes go in pretty far on them. The 16"s I got look to have good clearance.




Spacers FTW?
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/25/06 03:34 AM
Spacers shouldn't be needed. The 17"s have an offset that puts them way out to the fenders but the spokes come back in. Spacers would possibly have them looking funny and rubbing the fender even more. Though they shouldn't be needed for this. I hope. And the 16"s have a similar offset but normal spokes.
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/27/06 03:46 AM
Okay, the parts came back in and they look really nicely cut. Only they don't look like the plans I gave them! lol
He's gonna sit down with the operators and figure out what went wrong with the lasercutting from plans to part, and give me a call back in a couple of days.
Be patient.
Posted By: Pole120 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/27/06 03:48 AM
Originally posted by warmonger:

Be patient.






I want these sooooo bad.
Posted By: Harrry Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/27/06 07:45 AM
Originally posted by warmonger:
Okay, the parts came back in and they look really nicely cut. Only they don't look like the plans I gave them! lol
He's gonna sit down with the operators and figure out what went wrong with the lasercutting from plans to part, and give me a call back in a couple of days.
Be patient.




okay war
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/27/06 12:47 PM
Originally posted by Pole120:
Originally posted by warmonger:

Be patient.






I want these sooooo bad.




Hey! No cuts!! Back in line!



Posted By: Tourige Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/28/06 04:37 AM
Originally posted by mamisano:
Add me in Front and Rear. Thanks

1. tropictour
2. Kremit
3. Tourige (brackets only)
4. Pole120
5. LoveMySVT
6. Bronco_3LSVT
7. BloodyTomFlint
8. rkneeshaw3.0
9. RandyCSVT
10. 88SVT
11. F5R Cobra
12. ZomzSVT
13. MAmisano





IIRC thats the list as it stands
Posted By: tropictour Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/28/06 05:31 AM
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by mamisano:
Add me in Front and Rear. Thanks

1. tropictour
2. Kremit
3. Tourige (brackets only)
4. Pole120
5. LoveMySVT
6. Bronco_3LSVT
7. BloodyTomFlint
8. rkneeshaw3.0
9. RandyCSVT
10. 88SVT
11. F5R Cobra
12. ZomzSVT
13. MAmisano





IIRC thats the list as it stands



Woot! Im first.
-tropictour
Posted By: muntus Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/28/06 06:21 AM
Is this going to be a one run deal, or am I going to be able to get a set after I get some larger wheels?
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/28/06 12:40 PM
Originally posted by muntus:
Is this going to be a one run deal, or am I going to be able to get a set after I get some larger wheels?




They've already said they'll work with the stock SVT wheels. You won't NEED to go any larger to make these work. Just incase you were waiting for larger wheels to get in on this.

Mark
Posted By: muntus Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/28/06 06:05 PM
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by muntus:
Is this going to be a one run deal, or am I going to be able to get a set after I get some larger wheels?




They've already said they'll work with the stock SVT wheels. You won't NEED to go any larger to make these work. Just incase you were waiting for larger wheels to get in on this.

Mark




What about stock non-SVT wheels?
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/28/06 07:03 PM
Originally posted by muntus:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by muntus:
Is this going to be a one run deal, or am I going to be able to get a set after I get some larger wheels?




They've already said they'll work with the stock SVT wheels. You won't NEED to go any larger to make these work. Just incase you were waiting for larger wheels to get in on this.

Mark




What about stock non-SVT wheels?




Be more specific. If the test fitters know what you are working with, they might not have a problem test fitting that wheel, if they have it available. Big Jim is a Ford tech, so there might be a Contour/Mystique/Cougar/Focus with your wheel style, that he could throw on for fitment.

Mark
Posted By: Tourige Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/28/06 07:27 PM
here is what im thinking:

Stock SVT calipers, the bracket, some Bendix pads, and Baer Slotted vented FSVT rotors.

Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/28/06 08:10 PM
I'm thinking carbotech pads.
Posted By: muntus Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/29/06 02:15 AM
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by muntus:
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Originally posted by muntus:
Is this going to be a one run deal, or am I going to be able to get a set after I get some larger wheels?




They've already said they'll work with the stock SVT wheels. You won't NEED to go any larger to make these work. Just incase you were waiting for larger wheels to get in on this.

Mark




What about stock non-SVT wheels?




Be more specific. If the test fitters know what you are working with, they might not have a problem test fitting that wheel, if they have it available. Big Jim is a Ford tech, so there might be a Contour/Mystique/Cougar/Focus with your wheel style, that he could throw on for fitment.

Mark




I've got 14 inches.

Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/29/06 05:13 AM
If you're serious, then NO! Your sig says 98.5 SVT, so I assumed 16" SVT wheels at a minimum. I don't even think 14" wheels can fit around the stock SVT brakes. Anyway, just buy the kit, and have them ready for when you order the bigger wheels.

Mark
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 07/31/06 09:43 PM
They don't fit around the stock FSVT brakes.
Posted By: BlackE1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/03/06 05:47 PM
Originally posted by warmonger:
Okay, the parts came back in and they look really nicely cut. Only they don't look like the plans I gave them! lol
He's gonna sit down with the operators and figure out what went wrong with the lasercutting from plans to part, and give me a call back in a couple of days.
Be patient.




Did you hear anything from the shop yet?
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/05/06 04:14 AM
Originally posted by BlackE1:
Originally posted by warmonger:
Okay, the parts came back in and they look really nicely cut. Only they don't look like the plans I gave them! lol
He's gonna sit down with the operators and figure out what went wrong with the lasercutting from plans to part, and give me a call back in a couple of days.
Be patient.




Did you hear anything from the shop yet?




Yes, today I picked up two prototype templates made of thick sheet aluminum to test fit against my original hardware mockup and my drawings.
Bad news is I found two errors on the template for the front, and one for the back. The one for the front plate is a hole spacing issue I need to do some simple calculations to figure out why it is off. Should be easy enough to fix.
The good news is that the other two errors are just small issues with the outline of the brackets and easy to tweak in the software drawing. The rear bracket holes are perfect.
I'll give him the corrections and then he'll redo them. I won't have another estimate till I talk to him again but we are very close now to a final working product.
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/06/06 04:23 AM
I would like to volunteer to test the rear brackets.
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/06/06 04:56 AM
I got it covered Eric.
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/06/06 12:31 PM
lol, there are no tests needed on the rears. I perfected those before I sold my car.

This stuff will be figured out on Monday and then I'll see how long it takes to redo the brackets in steel.
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/06/06 08:06 PM
Originally posted by Kremithefrog:
I got it covered Eric.



I've got more cars than you!
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/07/06 01:47 AM
I can drive all 3 of mine, can you?

Look forward to it warmonger. I'm definitely needing some more stopping power.
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/07/06 09:42 PM
At the same time!!??! Ok, you win.
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/09/06 01:14 PM
I dropped off the bracket corrections yesterday and it should be no biggie to change them. I may have some workable prototypes within the week.
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/09/06 01:17 PM
Originally posted by warmonger:
I dropped off the bracket corrections yesterday and it should be no biggie to change them. I may have some workable prototypes within the week.






YAAAAAAY!!
Posted By: BlackE1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/09/06 02:55 PM
Originally posted by warmonger:
I dropped off the bracket corrections yesterday and it should be no biggie to change them. I may have some workable prototypes within the week.



Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/09/06 03:08 PM
Assuming you find someone to run these prototypes on their car, right away..... how long will you have them run them, before moving onto a final product? This is, assuming that you are happy with the fitment and performance of the prototype.(In other words, best case scenerio!)

Mark
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/09/06 03:23 PM
Originally posted by Y2KSVT:
Assuming you find someone to run these prototypes on their car, right away..... how long will you have them run them, before moving onto a final product? This is, assuming that you are happy with the fitment and performance of the prototype.(In other words, best case scenerio!)

Mark




No running them necessary since we have that data already. This is just a test fit to verify that they are being produced correctly, which should make you all happy since it minimizes delays.
If they bolt up good then I'll immediately go to the group buy section and set up the rules I want to play by. I'm not getting caught like I did years ago on those sunroof modules where I invested in a bunch of product only to have people back out.
I still have some other little details to work out about sourcing all the bolts and spacers at hopefully a cheaper rate than I have right now but that won't stop production if I can help it. I won't do that until I know everything else is a 100% go.
Posted By: Y2KSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/09/06 03:40 PM
Very respectable. Thanks for sticking with this Tom! I'll be keeping an eye on the GB forum for these.

Mark
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/09/06 03:56 PM
[Peter Lorre voice] EXCELLENT! [/Peter Lorre voice]
Posted By: mond12345 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/09/06 04:10 PM
I�m not going to clutter your thread up with more interest but I�m sure many guys on Neco will be jumping on this including me.
Posted By: Nick A. Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/09/06 05:10 PM
Put me down for at least the brackets, probably everything!

Thanks
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/12/06 05:07 PM
I'm still down like 4 flats on a Cadillac.
Posted By: Tourige Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/13/06 07:46 PM
ill probably pony up the cash just for safety sake
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/15/06 02:56 PM
Originally posted by warmonger:
I'm not getting caught like I did years ago on those sunroof modules where I invested in a bunch of product only to have people back out.




Take deposits to cover material costs, or better still, put together the GB with payment in full required up front, then make a production run with little/no risk to you.

Posted By: Tourige Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/15/06 04:13 PM
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:
I'm not getting caught like I did years ago on those sunroof modules where I invested in a bunch of product only to have people back out.




Take deposits to cover material costs, or better still, put together the GB with payment in full required up front, then make a production run with little/no risk to you.





But PM me first, so i can be #1 on the group buy.
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/15/06 04:57 PM
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:
I'm not getting caught like I did years ago on those sunroof modules where I invested in a bunch of product only to have people back out.




Take deposits to cover material costs, or better still, put together the GB with payment in full required up front, then make a production run with little/no risk to you.





But PM me first, so i can be #1 on the group buy.




HEY!! I started this thread!! Back of the line you northern hi-jacker!!


Posted By: tropictour Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/15/06 05:38 PM
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:
I'm not getting caught like I did years ago on those sunroof modules where I invested in a bunch of product only to have people back out.




Take deposits to cover material costs, or better still, put together the GB with payment in full required up front, then make a production run with little/no risk to you.





But PM me first, so i can be #1 on the group buy.




HEY!! I started this thread!! Back of the line you northern hi-jacker!!






I was first on the original list.
-tropictour
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/15/06 06:21 PM
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:
I'm not getting caught like I did years ago on those sunroof modules where I invested in a bunch of product only to have people back out.




Take deposits to cover material costs, or better still, put together the GB with payment in full required up front, then make a production run with little/no risk to you.






Yeah I think I'm going to do this route. Take deposits to alleviate most of the heavy costs so I'm not out a bunch of money.
I called today but the corrected brackets aren't back yet. Still waiting.

Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/15/06 06:58 PM
Originally posted by tropictour:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:
I'm not getting caught like I did years ago on those sunroof modules where I invested in a bunch of product only to have people back out.




Take deposits to cover material costs, or better still, put together the GB with payment in full required up front, then make a production run with little/no risk to you.





But PM me first, so i can be #1 on the group buy.




HEY!! I started this thread!! Back of the line you northern hi-jacker!!






I was first on the original list.
-tropictour




That's fine. Long as it isn't one of them tree huggin' freaks from Canadia.




Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/16/06 02:18 AM
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by tropictour:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:
I'm not getting caught like I did years ago on those sunroof modules where I invested in a bunch of product only to have people back out.




Take deposits to cover material costs, or better still, put together the GB with payment in full required up front, then make a production run with little/no risk to you.





But PM me first, so i can be #1 on the group buy.




HEY!! I started this thread!! Back of the line you northern hi-jacker!!






I was first on the original list.
-tropictour




That's fine. Long as it isn't one of them tree huggin' freaks from Canadia.








Ain't that the truth! Boy I tell ya what, them crazy hippies with their long hair and smelly Volkswagens can go back to California where they belong!
Posted By: Big Jim_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/16/06 06:41 AM
Originally posted by ChattavegasSE:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by tropictour:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:
I'm not getting caught like I did years ago on those sunroof modules where I invested in a bunch of product only to have people back out.




Take deposits to cover material costs, or better still, put together the GB with payment in full required up front, then make a production run with little/no risk to you.





But PM me first, so i can be #1 on the group buy.




HEY!! I started this thread!! Back of the line you northern hi-jacker!!






I was first on the original list.
-tropictour






That's fine. Long as it isn't one of them tree huggin' freaks from Canadia.






Ain't that the truth! Boy I tell ya what, them crazy hippies with their long hair and smelly Volkswagens can go back to California where they belong!




What makes you think we want them?
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/16/06 12:56 PM
Bwahahaha! Good point Jim. All my family would tell them to go away.
Posted By: Tourige Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/16/06 05:00 PM
i need the brakes, all that samn snow, and if i dont stop good enough ill slide through my Igloo
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/16/06 09:48 PM
Originally posted by Big Jim:
Originally posted by ChattavegasSE:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by tropictour:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:
I'm not getting caught like I did years ago on those sunroof modules where I invested in a bunch of product only to have people back out.




Take deposits to cover material costs, or better still, put together the GB with payment in full required up front, then make a production run with little/no risk to you.





But PM me first, so i can be #1 on the group buy.




HEY!! I started this thread!! Back of the line you northern hi-jacker!!






I was first on the original list.
-tropictour






That's fine. Long as it isn't one of them tree huggin' freaks from Canadia.






Ain't that the truth! Boy I tell ya what, them crazy hippies with their long hair and smelly Volkswagens can go back to California where they belong!




What makes you think we want them?



Well that's where they came from, ain't it? I mean, shove 'em back where they belong; on the left side of the Mighty Mississippi!
Posted By: Big Jim_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/17/06 03:02 AM
Originally posted by ChattavegasSE:
Originally posted by Big Jim:
Originally posted by ChattavegasSE:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by tropictour:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:
I'm not getting caught like I did years ago on those sunroof modules where I invested in a bunch of product only to have people back out.




Take deposits to cover material costs, or better still, put together the GB with payment in full required up front, then make a production run with little/no risk to you.





But PM me first, so i can be #1 on the group buy.




HEY!! I started this thread!! Back of the line you northern hi-jacker!!






I was first on the original list.
-tropictour






That's fine. Long as it isn't one of them tree huggin' freaks from Canadia.






Ain't that the truth! Boy I tell ya what, them crazy hippies with their long hair and smelly Volkswagens can go back to California where they belong!




What makes you think we want them?



Well that's where they came from, ain't it? I mean, shove 'em back where they belong; on the left side of the Mighty Mississippi!




Now wouldn't it be a dull world if we sent all the Oakies back to Oakie and all the Arkies back to Arky and all the Hoosiers back to Hoosie. If California can keep some from all the different groups, surely you can keep a few hippies.

Hippies don't fit in very well here anymore either. Berkley has become much more conservative and San Francisco has . . . well, lets just say drifted off some other way. The crunchy group just doesn't fit in much anymore.
Posted By: Harrry Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/17/06 07:39 AM
Man the site will be down and we won't be able to find any info out till next week.
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/17/06 01:02 PM
Originally posted by Harrry:
Man the site will be down and we won't be able to find any info out till next week.




Warmonger will get some peace!
Posted By: BlackE1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/17/06 01:08 PM
Originally posted by TourDeForce:

Warmonger will get some peace!




No lets get his Email and phone number and call him at all hours of the night!!!!









j\k
Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/17/06 04:20 PM
Originally posted by Harrry:
Man the site will be down and we won't be able to find any info out till next week.



Shoot, I'll just call him.
Posted By: Pole120 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/17/06 05:05 PM
Still in for 2...maybe 3 sets.
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/18/06 10:03 PM
Originally posted by Big Jim:
Originally posted by ChattavegasSE:
Originally posted by Big Jim:
Originally posted by ChattavegasSE:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by tropictour:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:
I'm not getting caught like I did years ago on those sunroof modules where I invested in a bunch of product only to have people back out.




Take deposits to cover material costs, or better still, put together the GB with payment in full required up front, then make a production run with little/no risk to you.





But PM me first, so i can be #1 on the group buy.




HEY!! I started this thread!! Back of the line you northern hi-jacker!!






I was first on the original list.
-tropictour






That's fine. Long as it isn't one of them tree huggin' freaks from Canadia.






Ain't that the truth! Boy I tell ya what, them crazy hippies with their long hair and smelly Volkswagens can go back to California where they belong!




What makes you think we want them?



Well that's where they came from, ain't it? I mean, shove 'em back where they belong; on the left side of the Mighty Mississippi!




Now wouldn't it be a dull world if we sent all the Oakies back to Oakie and all the Arkies back to Arky and all the Hoosiers back to Hoosie. If California can keep some from all the different groups, surely you can keep a few hippies.

Hippies don't fit in very well here anymore either. Berkley has become much more conservative and San Francisco has . . . well, lets just say drifted off some other way. The crunchy group just doesn't fit in much anymore.



I hear ya. I'm just glad none of 'em drive trucks; of course, none of 'em have jobs. That's what makes 'em hippies.
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/24/06 04:40 PM
Originally posted by warmonger:

No running them necessary since we have that data already. This is just a test fit to verify that they are being produced correctly, which should make you all happy since it minimizes delays.
If they bolt up good then I'll immediately go to the group buy section and set up the rules I want to play by.

I still have some other little details to work out about sourcing all the bolts and spacers at hopefully a cheaper rate than I have right now but that won't stop production if I can help it. I won't do that until I know everything else is a 100% go.




*bump*


<=== (* Watching GB section like a hawk *)
Posted By: johnny hennessy_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/24/06 04:44 PM
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:

No running them necessary since we have that data already. This is just a test fit to verify that they are being produced correctly, which should make you all happy since it minimizes delays.
If they bolt up good then I'll immediately go to the group buy section and set up the rules I want to play by.

I still have some other little details to work out about sourcing all the bolts and spacers at hopefully a cheaper rate than I have right now but that won't stop production if I can help it. I won't do that until I know everything else is a 100% go.




*bump*


<=== (* Watching GB section like a hawk *)




<=== (* Also watching GB section like a hawk *)
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/24/06 11:04 PM
Funny you should ask, I got a call this morning that the new test/proto brackets are read to check out. I couldn't get down there today, long day. I'll have to get down there tomorrow afternoon if everything goes right. I'll do preliminary checks to make sure they aren't obviously F'd up.
If they pass that test then I'll either make a decision to build or to get a test fit.
Let you guys know more tomorrow.
Posted By: johnny hennessy_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/24/06 11:09 PM
can't wait to find out!
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/25/06 11:48 PM
Originally posted by johnny hennessy:
can't wait to find out!




Well I got them and they look pretty good.
The lasercut is decent even though they aren't polished edges, but the method seems consistent, accurate, and should suffice.
It is the consistency that I care about.

I've tested the bolt holes and that all looks pretty good but I face the decision to produce them as is without another test fitting, or to send them out to one of the beta testers and have them testfit just to be sure.
I've bolted them up to my test hub and so far so good there but I don't have any 300mm rotors or calipers any more to check the swept area for the pads.

I personally would be happy with them the way they are because if I did run across a small fitment issue I could fix it...but there will always be one person who starts whining if they aren't perfect right off the bat.

Hence the dillema.
What do you guys want to do?
Posted By: stilov Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/26/06 12:29 AM
maybe an idea on how much they will cost would help... Tom I will get my info for you (for the other stuff) this weekend
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/26/06 01:42 AM
Send them for a test fit. I don't care who. Be sure before you start knocking them out.

Come to think, ChattavegasSE has an SVT kit on his car now. He might be willing to put his old calipers on those 300mm rotors & give you a comparison as well as a test fit - all super secret, of course.

Just a thought.
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/26/06 03:06 AM
See, theres a whiner now. lol J/k

If I do that it can't just be anyone as the studs the get pressed into the hub require some drilling. Therefore it has to be BigJim or DemonSVT as it would take one of them merely 20minutes to unbolt one bracket and stick one of these on to see if it fits. Too easy. However, neither of them seems to have the time now...
Posted By: Ray_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/26/06 03:10 AM
Time, here.
Posted By: KingpinSVT Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/26/06 04:01 AM
Ugh, this couldnt be getting close to production at a worse time for me. With the subframe broke and me looking at a lot of rear suspension removal, I figure I might as well replace some of the other rear suspension pieces (a la bradness) while Im doing so. Unless I just re-install all the worn stock pieces, I have to spend the cash. Which means none for this at the moment.

I need to get freaking hired by Pfizer already! Crappy intern pay isnt even covering the cost of what I have to fix, let alone brakes

Well, at least Ive kept my mouth shut and 'ed in private. Until I have the $$$ to back my interest, I like to keep my mouth closed, for obvious reasons.
Posted By: Pudmunkie Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/26/06 05:09 AM
Originally posted by warmonger:
See, theres a whiner now. lol J/k

If I do that it can't just be anyone as the studs the get pressed into the hub require some drilling. Therefore it has to be BigJim or DemonSVT as it would take one of them merely 20minutes to unbolt one bracket and stick one of these on to see if it fits. Too easy. However, neither of them seems to have the time now...





The production kits will require new studs? (not whining, just curious)
Posted By: tropictour Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/26/06 05:59 AM
I say go ahead and double check the fitment then start the GB. Just to make sure. Also, what about the studs that need to be pressed in? Thanks again Tom.
-tropictour
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/26/06 12:41 PM
Originally posted by Ray:
Time, here.





I could probably send you the rear bracket, but it needs the threads tapped. I could probably send Big Jim the front bracket since he doesn't have the rears and you don't have the fronts.
Or if Demon gets back in contact with me I could send both to him and he could do them at the same time. So let me let him contact me with his answer first and if he doesn't have the time then I'll just have to pay the postage to two different places.

For the rest of you...no more questions...lol

I've got how-to files written already but I have to add in pictures to the word document before they are ready. When I get these test-fitted, and I know they will work....then I'll have someone host the word document and you can all download and read to see what you are getting into.
Posted By: 1314_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/26/06 07:11 PM
Originally posted by tropictour:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:
I'm not getting caught like I did years ago on those sunroof modules where I invested in a bunch of product only to have people back out.




Take deposits to cover material costs, or better still, put together the GB with payment in full required up front, then make a production run with little/no risk to you.





But PM me first, so i can be #1 on the group buy.




HEY!! I started this thread!! Back of the line you northern hi-jacker!!






I was first on the original list.
-tropictour





As the Group Buy moderator, I will edit and put myself first on all lists. Mwahahahaha.
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/26/06 07:31 PM
Originally posted by 1314:
Originally posted by tropictour:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by Tourige:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Originally posted by warmonger:
I'm not getting caught like I did years ago on those sunroof modules where I invested in a bunch of product only to have people back out.




Take deposits to cover material costs, or better still, put together the GB with payment in full required up front, then make a production run with little/no risk to you.





But PM me first, so i can be #1 on the group buy.




HEY!! I started this thread!! Back of the line you northern hi-jacker!!






I was first on the original list.
-tropictour





As the Group Buy moderator, I will edit and put myself first on all lists. Mwahahahaha.




Ahhhh!! The EVIL ModerHater!

Posted By: Kremithefrog Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/26/06 10:19 PM
Well if I can pick up the 300mm rotors from the parts store, then I can test fit it. Might can drive over there if need be.
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/28/06 10:12 PM
Originally posted by tropictour:
I say go ahead and double check the fitment then start the GB. Just to make sure. Also, what about the studs that need to be pressed in? Thanks again Tom.
-tropictour




Brackets are sent off to the respective testers. We should know in about 3-5 days if the brackets need any more modifications.
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/28/06 11:56 PM
I'd offer to test (thanks, Jim ) but you're really far away from me. Since BigJim and Demon are really close, I'd say schedule a test fit with them. I do have Focus SVT front brakes on my car. I also have rear Contour SVT hubs on my back porch; so test fitting the rears would be a snap; I wouldn't even need to take the wheels off.
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 08/29/06 03:10 AM
Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by tropictour:
I say go ahead and double check the fitment then start the GB. Just to make sure. Also, what about the studs that need to be pressed in? Thanks again Tom.
-tropictour




Brackets are sent off to the respective testers. We should know in about 3-5 days if the brackets need any more modifications.




( insert dancing smiley here )

Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 09/02/06 11:33 PM
Looks like the front brakes brackets are gonna work!

BigJim has finished the test and it needed a little trimming on the one edge like I suspected. I'll take the tracing he sent me back down and have them make the corrections.

I'm just waiting on the other bracket to get to Ray and him to test it, but I'm more confident in the rear bracket as it looked like it came out really good.

AT this point I'm ready to start a group buy. I still have to check on a spacer cost but I'll try to do that Monday or Tuesday and it won't affect the overall price a whole lot one way or the other.

Thanks for being patient.
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 09/03/06 12:04 AM
I just need rear brackets...
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 09/03/06 01:37 AM
Originally posted by ChattavegasSE:
I just need rear brackets...




Well then you're [censored]'d!!!

lol unless Ray tells me the brackets are good.

You guys do know the rear brake adaptation require some brain power and intermediate level skill right?
of course, who in here wants to admit they don't have "some brainpower" heheheheh.

I think the rears will be fine.
Posted By: The Digital Slacker Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 09/03/06 03:37 AM
Originally posted by warmonger:


You guys do know the rear brake adaptation require some brain power and intermediate level skill right?
of course, who in here wants to admit they don't have "some brainpower" heheheheh.





*Raises hand*
Posted By: Big Jim_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 09/03/06 04:22 AM
Here is what they look like with E0 wheels.

Posted By: Tourige Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 09/03/06 06:49 AM
sexay
Posted By: Harrry Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 09/03/06 08:38 AM
Originally posted by Big Jim:
Here is what they look like with E0 wheels.







T-red
Posted By: TourDeForce Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 09/03/06 02:03 PM
Needs less wheel gap.

Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 09/03/06 02:17 PM
Originally posted by warmonger:
Originally posted by ChattavegasSE:
I just need rear brackets...




Well then you're [censored]'d!!!

lol unless Ray tells me the brackets are good.

You guys do know the rear brake adaptation require some brain power and intermediate level skill right?
of course, who in here wants to admit they don't have "some brainpower" heheheheh.

I think the rears will be fine.



Hey now, why are you talking 'bout lack of brain power when responding to me!?!?




Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Needs less wheel gap.




It's got less gap than my car!
Posted By: Big Jim_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 09/03/06 05:19 PM
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Needs less wheel gap.






Wheel gap cannot be avoided when you jack the car up to work on it with the suspension hanging. Did you not notice that the whee is not touching the ground?
Posted By: warmonger_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 09/03/06 06:51 PM
Originally posted by Big Jim:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Needs less wheel gap.






Wheel gap cannot be avoided when you jack the car up to work on it with the suspension hanging. Did you not notice that the whee is not touching the ground?




Bwahahaha.
Posted By: Harrry Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 09/03/06 07:57 PM
Originally posted by Big Jim:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Needs less wheel gap.






Wheel gap cannot be avoided when you jack the car up to work on it with the suspension hanging. Did you not notice that the whee is not touching the ground?




He did, he was just joking around big jimbo!!
Posted By: ChattavegasSE_dup1 Re: 300mm x 280mm brake upgrade - 09/04/06 01:15 AM
Originally posted by Big Jim:
Originally posted by TourDeForce:
Needs less wheel gap.






Wheel gap cannot be avoided when you jack the car up to work on it with the suspension hanging. Did you not notice that the whee is not touching the ground?



Yeah Jim!
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